Why unity between man and woman will never be possible

[Jowblob]

I wtote this based on my own experience.

Woman is outside of man
And man is in the woman
Man is creation and the creator
Woman is the potential and nothingness

On the highest level of consciousness, man=creation is rubbing against woman=nothingness=potential.
When this happends love/ecstasy is a byproduct but it wont be enough and you become one with nothingness leaking energy to the woman=nothingness and there is no ecstasy no more.

Woman is an illussion that you will always crave, but if you discipline yourself without leaking any energy to physicality and thought you become one in your own creation.

[Thought Art]

@Jowblob Yeah but you can develop a loving relationship 

[cuteguy]

@Thought Art Relationship is separation.

@Jowblob Unity is before separation and can never be after it.

[Thought Art]

@cuteguy hmm. I guess it’s contextual. Relationship is less separation than divorce. 

[VeganAwake]

@Jowblob https://youtu.be/8lgbWTlVfhE?si=4YQcFETv922BmxCg

[theleelajoker]

@JowblobI think you're overcomplicating things.

My personal guideline: Appreciate the differences, learn from them.  Personally ,I don't want to "become a woman on my own". For that I love female beauty, emotions, smell etc way too much.

And whatever you mean with "unity" - I don't know. Everybody has his/her own understanding of this. 

A loving and embracing hug during or after sex, or simple cuddling, even just talking with a woman I deeply connect I feel pretty united with women.

Does it last? No. But nothing does.

Edited Monday at 06:56 AM by theleelajoker

[Brittany]

Women and Men have a lot more in common on the level of the ego-mind than people realize.

If you put the mind of a Woman on a mega phone , and blast it for all people to hear, Men would be shocked and appalled to hear the voice of her "ego" and "monkey chatter".

Men would be flabbergasted at how similarly neurotic and insane the ego mind of a woman is to men.

A lot of the "romanticized" and "metaphorical-poetic" ways we use to describe the feminine and masculine, wouldn't hold up so neatly, when the egoic monkey chatter of a woman's mind is on a mega phone and scrutinized and analyzed by a public audience 24-7.

On the level of the body , is where the main difference and division between men and women is. 

The difference is not so much in the mind unless you go into the poetic/metaphorical/archetypal/romantic realms, which don't hold up so well in close examination...........And fall away from your grip once you let go of both your positive and negative self concepts.

Letting go of the negative self concepts, but clinging to the positive self concepts (which is what most people do).....leaves you stuck in the metaphorical/poetic/romantic realms of viewing the feminine and masculine self. This realm is very important place to hang out in and we can't bypass it, because it teaches us a lot about how romantic relationships operate. All conversations around forming "healthy relationships" exist in this realm, so it is important to play around here.

But letting go of [both] the negative and the positive self concepts, shows how similar the ego-monkey chatter-machinery is in both genders.

Letting go of your positive self concepts, zooms you out to see the machinery from farther away.

It is mental telescope from the void.

Romantic Relationships, themselves, are dependent on our attachment and identification with our positive-self-concepts.

When you start playing around and deconstructing the "positive self concepts" too much, romantic love at it's foundation, begins to crack.

Romantic Love is a huge game of attachment to our positive-self-concepts. We get an oxytocin high off of our positive-self-concepts.

Deconstruct the positive self concepts (which no one wants to do) and the whole game shatters.

And when it shatters, you will see the Unity between both genders on the level of the mind/ego/identity.

However; the differences on the level of the body, between men and women, will always be there. That isn't going anywhere. It is no different than a leaf and a branch will never be the exact same thing, though both are part of the same tree.

Edited yesterday at 09:16 AM by Brittany

[Carl-Richard]

Whaaat?

[Brittany]

Most people are aware that their negative thinking causes distortion in their relationships.

But what most people are not aware of, is that positive thinking also causes distortion...but it causes distortion in how we perceive reality itself.

Women are using men to enhance their self image. Men are using women to enhance their self image. This is just normal relating. But within doing this, we create a foundation of "We are separate".

To hold unto or create a "positive self image" is still a mindset of separation, even though it feels really good and blissful.  The "positive self image" grasps and clings and attaches to gain something. It wants to become or be something.

There are 2 kinds of Unity.

There is the Unity of the shared happy dream. (which is what I think most people want). This is where the Man and the Woman hold positive self concepts for either themselves or each other. In this state, they are often gracious and loving towards each other's shadow and trauma states. But on a mental level, they see distinct self images ..... self concepts.... often positive about each other....and they believe these are real. They think the positive stories and self concepts are actually real. This state of Unity feels like an oxytocin soup of bliss. haha It feels like heaven.

But then there is also a deeper Unity where [both] positive and negative self concepts collapse. This is where a lot of the mental differences between Men and Women shatter completely. Romantic Love, as a mental concept, shatters here. Relationships, as a mental concept, shatter here. Marriage, Kids, Sex, etc. might still happen but the mind isn't attaching to an image of self. The barrier and block to reaching this state is usually clinging to "positive self concepts" or specialness. This is not a highly desired state but it's still a state of Unity. It can be argued to be a deeper Unity state because you both collapse into nothing. 

The actual truth is that Unity, on the level of mind, is already the case.

There is nothing to join....because nothing was divided to begin with.

The title "Why unity between man and woman will never be possible" implies that division took place.

It is implying Unity isn't already here.

But division never happened to begin with.

There is nothing to connect or join or unify or bring together......because nothing was separated to begin with.

On the level of the body, yes, men and women are divided physically. (though certain people debate this as well)

But division does not exist on the level of the mind.

[There is nothing to unify, because nothing was divided to begin with] is only seen clearly in the 2nd form of Unity.

The 1st form of Unity, where you are blissfully Unified with a lover/spouse....but still clinging to self concepts of either a positive or negative variety, won't reveal this.