Why I'm quitting NoFap.

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

@D2sage So you are against ejaculation in general. Unless it's caused directly by the woman's pussy ofc, then it's fine

"Porn has made you into a horny goat" so help me here, on one hand you claim porn desensitizes you and causes erectile dysfunction, on the other hand horniness on the daily basis is bad. LOL nice logic right there.

Haven't answered any of my questions either

[D2sage]

1 hour ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

Haven't answered any of my questions either

Answered perfectly fine. You are too stubborn to accept the facts and even open up your mind a pinch.

1 hour ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

you claim porn desensitizes you and causes erectile dysfunction,

Its not my claim. Its fact of reality.  Porn = Erectile Dysfunction. Those who prefer porn are those who have ED.

Found this from papers:

"Addictive masturbation, often accompanied by a dependency on cyber-pornography, has been seen to play a role in the etiology of certain types of erectile dysfunction or coital anejaculation. "

"CSB subjects also had greater impairments of sexual arousal and erectile difficulties in intimate relationships but not with sexually explicit materials" <--- This is what happens when you train your brain with porn.

The sooner you realize porn is wack, the better.

Mastrubating without porn is fine. Do that for a year and see how that goes.

Edited April 6 by D2sage

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

1 hour ago, D2sage said:

All you are doing is watching another man thrusting a woman, and you get hard of that.

You keep mentioning this specific kind of porn, as if that's the only porn there is. Again, what is porn what's not, what's too stimulating and what's not. Do these studies apply to men watching light stuff as well? I'm not going to keep repeating my questions

1 hour ago, D2sage said:

And you dont need to fuck a girlfriend every day.  See how porn has screwed up your view here?

You don't need to, but you would want to. If you could, you would, is my point. As often as possible or as often as you'd be able to. How am I screwed up for that, that's normal LOL

I can go without porn but literaly nothing would change. It changes nothing about you

[Carl-Richard]

8 hours ago, Someone here said:

You think you are being a smart arse?... Overdosing on water can kill you . And Overdosing on poison can kill you.  But a sip of water won't kill you. A sip of poison will kill you . Got it ?

"Why I'm quitting water"

[D2sage]

1 hour ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

Do these studies apply to men watching light stuff as well?

Sexually explicit materials.

1 hour ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

I can go without porn but literaly nothing would change. It changes nothing about you

Keep lying to yourself.

Edited April 6 by D2sage

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

34 minutes ago, D2sage said:

Sexually explicit materials.

"Which car brand you own? Honda, BMW, Wolkswagen?"

"I own vehicle"

[Someone here]

@Carl-Richard I mean who the hell takes you seriously with that "thing " in your signature ? jk.

1 hour ago, D2sage said:

.  Porn = Erectile Dysfunction. 

It's not like that .peeps masturbate to porn everyday...go to a live stream porn sites like a sex chat live when guys pay money so that the pornstar can spank her ass or squeeze her tits ..thousands if not millions if not billions if not trillions (yes trillions because even aliens and ghosts watch porn ) of guys watch porn everyday...and they have no problem getting it up to the computer. Or do you Just mean they can't get it up with a real chick ?

[D2sage]

1 hour ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

"Which car brand you own? Honda, BMW, Wolkswagen?"

"I own vehicle"

What do you get if you cross a squirrel and a kangaroo?

An animal that jumps around with nuts in its pocket.

[D2sage]

1 hour ago, Someone here said:

It's not like that .peeps masturbate to porn everyday...go to a live stream porn sites like a sex chat live when guys pay money so that the pornstar can spank her ass or squeeze her tits ..thousands if not millions if not billions if not trillions (yes trillions because even aliens and ghosts watch porn ) of guys watch porn everyday...and they have no problem getting it up to the computer. Or do you Just mean they can't get it up with a real chick ?

But here’s the plot twist: screens don’t care if you’re awkward, forget your lines, or need a snack break. Real humans? They’re like a live multiplayer game with no pause button, way higher difficulty settings, and the graphics judge you.

Many young men use Viagra even in their 30s to get it up due to heavy porn use. 

They can get it up but keeping it up is the tricky part.

Porn will only produce slopp-dicks.

No aliens nor ghost can fix that. Even with intergalactic Wi-Fi.

Edited April 6 by D2sage

[Someone here]

@D2sage idk man I'm guessing all this "steam " You're blowing out of your chest against porn comes from a negative experience with porn earlier in your life .like you were addicted to the point you were about to suicide yourself or something and then you had an explosive awakening that you must stop this habit or else you gonna screw your whole life away straight to hell . 

Between me and you it's fine to wank It to some hot clips every once In a while ..its not like it does actually matter On the grand scheme of things or the most "zoomed out " perspective possible. Don't you think so ?

Edited April 6 by Someone here

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

Even if you was desensitized (I keep repeating that word a lot don't I, LOL) from too much "porn" "usage", I'm pretty sure it would only take a couple of days or less than a week of not watching anything, not touching your dick and training like an animal for you to be ready to go or even cum prematurely while being with a girl cause you're so excited. LOL like, you'd have to jerk off like 4-5 times a day every single day to be fucked up like that. I can never understand how some men are able to crank up those numbers so high, but some people are just freaks of nature

[Someone here]

@NewKidOnTheBlock  why are you putting the word "porn" in quotations?  Implying that porn can't be defined?  This is gay as fuck 😂 

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

16 minutes ago, Someone here said:

@NewKidOnTheBlock  why are you putting the word "porn" in quotations?  Implying that porn can't be defined?  This is gay as fuck 😂 

Anything can become porn if the mind views it as such, you the typa guy to find even this site's layout sexy. LEL

[Someone here]

7 minutes ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

Anything can become porn if the mind views it as such, you the typa guy to find even this site's layout sexy. LEL

Whatever. 

[D2sage]

2 hours ago, Someone here said:

I'm guessing

Projection’s a hell of a drug, my guy.

You might enjoy porn. Nobody is stopping you here.

But dont try to downplay the pile of facts that porn leads to sloppy-dicks. 

 

Edited April 6 by D2sage

[Yimpa]

Quit NoFap and join OnlyGod today!

[Someone here]

18 hours ago, D2sage said:

You might enjoy porn.

Yes I do . You too .stop putting fake front .I have not found a single person in my whole life who has the same degree of honesty and authenticity like me . Maybe That's why I struggle with making long term friends irl or keeping a girl locked .

18 hours ago, D2sage said:

Nobody is stopping you here

Obviously? 

18 hours ago, D2sage said:

porn leads to sloppy-dicks. 

Wet is good .

[D2sage]

2 hours ago, Someone here said:

Wet is good .

Viagra ain't 

2 hours ago, Someone here said:

.I have not found a single person in my whole life who has the same degree of honesty and authenticity like me

Yet, you base your entire worldview on one Healthline article. SEO filled wanks to rank high on top on Google Search.

Another study says on prostate cancer and mastrubation:

frequent overall sexual activity in younger life (20s) increased the disease risk, it appeared to be protective against the disease when older (50s). Alone, frequent masturbation activity was a marker for increased risk in the 20s and 30s

 study finds men who are sexually active in their 20s and 30s are more likely to develop prostate cancer — especially if they masturbate frequently.

Better fap when you 50 years old and focus making real progress instead of fooling  yourself.

Edited April 7 by D2sage

[Norbert Somogyi]

I've been on both sides of this debate, periods of me justifying my porn addiction (99% to myself) as well as periods of me justifying nofap to myself and others. 

Porn addiction was an outlet for me, a temporary comfort from my suffering related to my subpar family environment and corresponding trauma and depression. Resistance, lack of awareness and corresponding acceptance. I don't know where I would be if I would have been exposed to porn later in my life (or not at all), but I believe most likely I would be in a better place. I most likely would have had more moments earlier where I would have had to face hard-truths about the life I lead growing up. I most likely would have had more motivation to socialize and seek female companionship. There's a certain clarity of mind I did get (and still do) on longer streaks without PMO. There is a possibility that I would have been suicidal, but thankfully I will never know.

NoFap was basically the same for me, on the other side of the coin. A self-induced escape from the addiction, trying out various micro-managing methods to be free from it once and for all. Naturally, I did punish and guilt-trip myself whenever I failed (leading to binges), especially during the earlier phases. It was progression however, since I did develop mentally and physically (indirectly mainly) during those years. A breakthrough that led me to distance myself from porn for a year or so, and 3+ months from fapping. The best I ever felt, however I did change little else when it comes to the circumstances I live in so it was superficial. Altogether though, I grew a lot and even landed a girlfriend, along with some spicy adventures with women. 

This was followed with a phase of experimentation, what streaks are most comfortable for me. It was good, but apparently I was still missing pieces. It did not cure my depression, just weakened it. I could feel the effects of PMO, just paid much less attention to it. There still was emotional turmoil attached to it. I even visited a tantric healer who taught me some practices, and tried semen-retention which worked surprisingly well. The transmutation of my sexual energy worked for me, but not as a life-time practice. 

Here I am, around 10 years later after trying NoFap for the first time. I'm at a much better place, rather content and comfortable in my skin - not lonely and anxious when it comes to relationships (or lack thereof). I can only thank the period of NoFap I had in my life. Nowadays I indulge myself in PMO, mostly out of boredom, but the effect is miniscule in comparison (on the mental level - while on the physical level I still notice it - but they are interconnected so it is hard to tell). Ever since I started to optimize my vitamin D levels (and corresponding cofactors), I often feel just as great as I did on month+ long streaks of nofap. I don't know if there is a direct relationship, but it will be worth investigating later on. Thank you for reading up to this part, to be continued.

 

[Norbert Somogyi]

4 hours ago, D2sage said:

Viagra ain't 

Yet, you base your entire worldview on one Healthline article. SEO filled wanks to rank high on top on Google Search.

Another study says on prostate cancer and mastrubation:

frequent overall sexual activity in younger life (20s) increased the disease risk, it appeared to be protective against the disease when older (50s). Alone, frequent masturbation activity was a marker for increased risk in the 20s and 30s

 study finds men who are sexually active in their 20s and 30s are more likely to develop prostate cancer — especially if they masturbate frequently.

Better fap when you 50 years old and focus making real progress instead of fooling  yourself.

Hey, I appreciate your stance on the effects of porn on the brain. Seems to affect the brain in a similar fashion as drug addictions.

Makes me rethink my relationship with it, even after all this time. There's definitely a huge issue with porn, both on an individual level and the collective. I've just tried to think about benefits, but even after asking DeepSeek I hardly find any convincing arguments for it. NoPorn seems to be a healthy alternative for most.

I'm conflicted on the NoFap thing. I've been at both ends, and nofap sometimes brought me more issues than benefits. I understand that was due to how the energy was stuck since I did not do anything else to improve my life at a time. However I don't think sexual energy transmutation is a viable alternative for anyone at any point in their life. There's a big chance it leads to improvement over time, but there's a threshold beyond which it can cause more harm. That's why even the NoFap Forums recommend a comfortable frequency even after the standard 90 day reboot, like 2-4 weeks or 1-3 months. The frequency is individual, however I'd argue that even 90 days is not enough for most people. Especially for those who take NoFap as the only thing that they change about their lives. 

Regarding the prostate cancer thing, I'd be curious to know what was the counter-effect for people over 50. The suggested theory is interesting, but I think there's more to it. The frequency of masturbation can be a marker of someone's well-being, the more you are inclined to do it the less content you are with your life. Seeking pleasure elsewhere.

These studies are unfortunately overly simplistic, do not incorporate a healthy quantity of factors and perspectives that could lead to cancer. I know it's hard to make a randomized controlled trial with not only physical health but also developmental psychology involved. Therefore here's an overview about more materialistic factors - Overview Prostate Cancer and Vitamin D