ActualizedJohn

Can solipsism be proven or disproven?

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1 minute ago, Breakingthewall said:

This is a relative question and I will answer with my relative mind: I'd say yes, that the reality unfold in infinite dimensions simultaneously.

This means absolutely nothing, it has zero relationship with openess.  Openess in an action. It's when you release the grip and expand yourself without limits. It has to be absolute, or it is not the real openess. It's out of the mind, you can't even think in it, you can do it. 

Then you agree with Absolute Solpsism.   Absolute Solipsism is Absolute.   Relatively speaking there is duality.  There is self and other.  


 

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Just now, Inliytened1 said:

Then you agree with Absolute Solpsism.   Absolute Solipsism is Absolute.   Relatively speaking there is duality.  There is self and other.  

No, it's beyond that, it's not a definition of knowing anything, it's open your being without limits and be absolutely open to what you are, to your essence, your infinite nature. Its an immediate recognition, and it's absolutely, totally, impossible to grasp with the mind or define it. 

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1 minute ago, Breakingthewall said:

No, it's beyond that, it's not a definition of knowing anything, it's open your being without limits and be absolutely open to what you are, to your essence, your infinite nature. Its an immediate recognition, and it's absolutely, totally, impossible to grasp with the mind or define it. 

That still leaves you with the aching question as to whether your mother exists outside of your direct experience.  This is not only relevant but it is necessary for awakening to realize that you are God dreaming absolutely everything.  Everything that exists is manifested by you.  Right now

 


 

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4 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

That still leaves you with the aching question as to whether your mother exists outside of your direct experience.  This is not only relevant but it is necessary for awakening to realize that you are God dreaming absolutely everything.  Everything that exists is manifested by you.  Right now

 

You don't understand that this is a relative creation of the mind? "You are god creating" is relative, the absolute is absolute, nothing is being created, creation is a relative arising that means nothing. The absolute is absolute, that's, limitless, and because this everything is, nothing else. You can't understand it because understanding is inside it, same than god. God is just a relative arising in the absolute, same than creation, intelligence or anything. 

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13 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

You don't understand that this is a relative creation of the mind? "You are god creating" is relative, the absolute is absolute, nothing is being created, creation is a relative arising that means nothing. The absolute is absolute, that's, limitless, and because this everything is, nothing else. You can't understand it because understanding is inside it, same than god. God is just a relative arising in the absolute, same than creation, intelligence or anything. 

But you just said that relatively speaking your mother exists.  Are you saying that Absolutely speaking she does not or Absolutely speaking the question is irrelevant?  If the question is irrelevant then that is avoiding the question.  If you are saying the Absolute is outside of the relative and there is no such question as to whether there is self or other than that is the same as saying there is no self or other.  Which is the same same as saying there is no duality or separation.   Which is the same as saying there is only Mind or Pure Consciousness.  Which is the same as saying you are that.  You are God. 

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8 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

But you just said that relatively speaking your mother exists.  Are you saying that Absolutely speaking she does not or Absolutely speaking the question is irrelevant?  If the question is irrelevant then that is avoiding the question.  If you are saying the Absolute is outside of the relative and there is no such question as to whether there is self or other than that is the same as saying there is no self or other.  Which is the same same as saying there is no duality or separation.   Which is the same as saying there is only Mind or Pure Consciousness.  Which is the same as saying you are that.  You are God. 

The absolute is what is, not the experience , the relative is the form of what is, the experience . your ultimate nature is the very fact of the absence of limits, any god is secondary. But this doesn't mean that the relative is false, it's relative, it's the manifestation of the absolute, and in my insight the relative is infinite connection, infinite life in all directions, infinite relation creating a whole that can't be though. Infinite gods in infinite dimensions, and the experience is precisely relative to them, to the others infinite dimensions. You are not creating nothing, it's a absolutely limited vision, one limit: you, the other: the creation. Impossible! The reality is infinitely multiple, but it's always the same essence, the absence of limits, which implies everything. Your mother, your girlfriend, everything is there in substance, it's everything. But then in the relative they are in form, or not. Absolutely sure that there is experience outside your experience, for a reason: the experience is relative, then relative to other. 

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20 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

The absolute is what is, not the experience , the relative is the form of what is, the experience . M

I could stop you right there.  You are creating a duality between form and formlessness.  In Truth there is no such difference.  


 

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10 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

You are creating a duality between form and formlessness.  In Truth there is no such difference.  

Solipsists don't understand this.


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1 minute ago, Carl-Richard said:

Solipsists don't understand this.

When all duality collapses you are still left with Mind.  This isnt a bug.  That is what the Buddhists got wrong.   


 

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14 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

When all duality collapses you are still left with Mind.  This isnt a bug.  That is what the Buddhists got wrong.   

You are not left with anything but what exists, and it has nothing to do with postulating whether or not a meat suit comes concurrent with a private point of view or not.


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2 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

You are not left with anything but what exists, and it has nothing to do with postulating whether or not a meat suit comes concurrent with a private point of view or not.

Just dumb existence.   Existence ain't dumb. 


 

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5 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Just dumb existence.   Existence ain't dumb. 

What the hell does that mean? xD


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59 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

What the hell does that mean? xD

It means you will know for certain whether or not you're the only meat suit. 


 

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29 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

It means you will know for certain whether or not you're the only meat suit. 

If you want to communicate with single sentences, go communicate with yourself, zero puns intended.


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2 hours ago, Carl-Richard said:

If you want to communicate with single sentences, go communicate with yourself, zero puns intended.

You're the one communicating with single sentences.

"Solipsists don't understand this."

 


 

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25 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

You're the one communicating with single sentences.

"Solipsists don't understand this."

I asked you to clarify what you meant and you gave one sentence. You didn't ask me to clarify.

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On 18/02/2025 at 7:16 PM, ActualizedJohn said:

I definitely believe it’s impossible to ever know. 

You can absolutely know it’s true ;)


Anyone who says they’re enlightened on this form in anyway is not, except me I am. 

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12 hours ago, Carl-Richard said:

I asked you to clarify what you meant and you gave one sentence. You didn't ask me to clarify.

Then please clarify.  Also provide your stance on this and I will provide mine.  If you want of course 😉

There's no such thing as a solipsist.  There's no such thing as Solipsism unless you create something in your mind called Solipsism.   There is only what is.  But what is, is that outside your direct experience- the room that you're in right now - there is nothing.  In fact, there is nothing right now, even in your direct experience!  All there is and ever was is nothing.   That is what you are.  There is no material existence or objective reality "out there".  The ontological structure of reality is that of a dream.  

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5 hours ago, Inliytened1 said:

Then please clarify.

You're such a troll.

 

5 hours ago, Inliytened1 said:

There is only what is.  But what is, is that outside your direct experience- the room that you're in right now - there is nothing.

There is no inside or outside. That's the overreach you're making.

 

5 hours ago, Inliytened1 said:

In fact, there is nothing right now, even in your direct experience!  All there is and ever was is nothing.   That is what you are.  There is no material existence or objective reality "out there".

There is no subjective mental reality inside either.

This is the lunacy of what is going on: "there is only what is", but then you also want to start making distinctions. There are no particular distinctions that follow from "there is only what is". You are making those distinctions based on something else, some other conviction or notion you have.

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Posted (edited)

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Yes, others can see from their eyes and you can see through the eyes of others. There are others with a beating heart just like yours that are present in the ocean of consciousness.

There is only presence no matter where you are, meaning others will be individualized consciousness forms that will reflect your consciousness back.

Each individual will have their own path, their own reality because they're a tiny drop of consciousness in infinite ocean. The infinite ocean is like an infinite open channel, meaning
all individual experiences are there but doesn't necessary mean that you were the one that had these experiences. How is this possible?

Many people didn't have this realization yet, but it is because the creation is constantly interacting with potential/nothingness meaning new experiences are being created constantly.

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I wrote this recently in google, and it confirmed my realization about woman/energy in my past threads.

As you can see shakti= the feminine aspect is the "foundational force". Meaning the feminine is the nothingness/potential that is in constant interaction with creation.
When i am in meditation this shakti=feminine force always makes me orgasm first and it feels like this "shakti" force never has enough it always wants more and can go infinitely more.
This is what woman are, creation is in the woman.

 

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When creation interacts with potential/shakti , "ego" is born and get individualized in the creation/ocean this is why it feels like we have no free will. Because you're getting individualized in a stable/creation that can be accessed by anyone that reached that level of understanding/truth

 

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