Jesus is God.

[MellowEd]

Christ fulfilled over 300 prophecies.

A divine exchange. His life for yours. 

 

Thoughts on the graph? It is written by 40 authors over the span of 1500 years on 3 different continents. A true masterpiece!

Edited April 21 by MellowEd

[BipolarGrowth]

What is the context of the graph? How many prophecies were not fulfilled? Is saying there will be war and disease in the future and it happening a fulfilled prophecy? Or is that someone claiming something that always happens is going to happen again as if that is some proof of divine intervention?

 

To me, it seems like Christians use the story of Christ to serve their own agendas. I’ve had many mystical experiences where I’ve felt a connection to Jesus, but trying to reconcile that with what Christianity manifests as in the world today makes me viscerally sick. 

Edited April 21 by BipolarGrowth

[Razard86]

He certainly had an interesting childhood cursing people.

https://udayton.edu/imri/mary/c/childhood-of-jesus.php

[MellowEd]

19 hours ago, Razard86 said:

He certainly had an interesting childhood cursing people.

https://udayton.edu/imri/mary/c/childhood-of-jesus.php

It is a gnostic text and does not match with the teachings from Jesus. 

»But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you, bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use you.«
‭‭Luke‬ ‭6‬:‭27‬-‭28‬ ‭

[Razard86]

15 hours ago, MellowEd said:

It is a gnostic text and does not match with the teachings from Jesus. 

»But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you, bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use you.«
‭‭Luke‬ ‭6‬:‭27‬-‭28‬ ‭

The gnostic texts were part of the original Christian texts. They were removed and seperated when the Bible was created because it did not serve the purposes of the Church and the establishment of their religion. If you study the history you will see why that happened.

And I can easily use a verse from the Bible that contradicts that. 

https://www.bible.com/bible/1/MAT.5.38-48.KJV

https://www.bible.com/bible/compare/EXO.21.24-27

https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Matthew 5%3A17

 

Now with that last verse Jesus was not being entirely honest. He was coming to destroy the law of Moses because the law of Moses taught an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth and he was teaching the opposite. But his claim was that the law was written that way because they were not ready. 

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew 19%3A8&version=NIV

So Jesus was making distinctions between what he taught and what Moses taught and was saying the law was written the way it was because they were too selfish. But the Jews who didn't agree with his new teaching of grace and mercy because it went against the code of punishment from Moses that Moses claims God himself wrote reveals there is a huge contradiction.

Christians don't want to deal with this contradiction so they pretend it doesn't exist. Which is just more dishonesty.

[Razard86]

Oh and I point again that Jesus said you were God.

https://biblehub.com/john/10-34.htm

And he pointed that it was written in scripture that you are God. Here is the scripture he was pointing too.

https://biblehub.com/psalms/82-6.htm

So pretty much the whole Christian Church does not understand what Jesus was saying and wanted to stop everyone from realizing they are God.

He tells you that God is within you by telling you the Kingdom of God is within you.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke 17%3A20-21&version=KJV

But again you have to deny these texts because they don't fit your flawed biased perspective that Jesus alone is God.

God does not play favorites, favoritism is a human thing. Which again is in the scriptures.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+2%3A11&version=KJV

God wouldn't make one person God....because everyone is God, because God is present as all things which is why God is omnipresent.

[MellowEd]

9 hours ago, Razard86 said:

But again you have to deny these texts because they don't fit your flawed biased perspective that Jesus alone is God.

I am made in the image of God and one with God through the Holy spirit. God showed me my soul so I know that I am something far more valuable than this wretched body of death. Your soul is not my soul and have you ever created as much as a speck of dust? 

The gospel of Thomas is a gnostic text wich stems from a sect. look it up. It has nothing to do with the pure teaching of Christ. It is a reason God won't allow for it to be in the Holy Bible. 

Jesus said we are like gods not God himself. God hears everything so there is no need for an corrupted church to repent. 

https://biblehub.com/acts/19-2.htm

[MellowEd]

On 4/21/2024 at 1:53 PM, BipolarGrowth said:

What is the context of the graph? How many prophecies were not fulfilled? Is saying there will be war and disease in the future and it happening a fulfilled prophecy? Or is that someone claiming something that always happens is going to happen again as if that is some proof of divine intervention?

 

To me, it seems like Christians use the story of Christ to serve their own agendas. I’ve had many mystical experiences where I’ve felt a connection to Jesus, but trying to reconcile that with what Christianity manifests as in the world today makes me viscerally sick. 

What is meant by cross referencing?

a reference from one part of a book, index, or the like, to related material, as a word or illustration, in another part.

 

The context is OT and NT. Amazing right ? 

Some are very easy to detect like God telling Abraham to sacrifice his own son around 2091 B.C and then God sacrificing his own son around 30 A.D 

Other cross references are elusive and can be difficult to find even with the use of technology. I don't think humans will ever be able to find them before the end. It is the word of God.

 

Regarding the prophecies, some are easy to detect and are in great detail others are difficult to understand and hard to detect. 

I have not read any vague prophecies of the sort you mentioned in the The Holy Bible.

Here are some cool prophecies with Probability of chance fulfillment.

https://reasons.org/explore/publications/articles/fulfilled-prophecy-evidence-for-the-reliability-of-the-bible

 

Regarding your contempt towards Christians I will say this. Eternal life is a gift that most people reject. Many people have works without faith and claims to know Jesus. The scripture from ‭‭Matthew‬ ‭7‬:‭22‬-‭23‬ comes to mind.

»Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?’ And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness.’«

 

Edited April 24 by MellowEd

[abrakamowse]

32 minutes ago, MellowEd said:

»Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?’ And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness.’«

This can quickly backfire 😊

[MellowEd]

On 4/24/2024 at 11:19 PM, abrakamowse said:

This can quickly backfire 😊

One can say Jesus is king with no faith. Just empty words. 

Edited April 26 by MellowEd

[abrakamowse]

26 minutes ago, MellowEd said:

One can say Jesus is king with no faith. Just empty words. 

Exactly 😊

[abrakamowse]

If you pay attention you will notice that even in his last days before crucifixion not even his disciples understood what he was talking about 

[MellowEd]

On 4/24/2024 at 11:56 PM, abrakamowse said:

If you pay attention you will notice that even in his last days before crucifixion not even his disciples understood what he was talking about 

God being glorified through suffering can be difficult to understand.

[abrakamowse]

@MellowEd Many things have been done to GOD. Cause God is in everyone of us. Jesus realized that, that’s the main difference. 

[abrakamowse]

https://tomdas.com/2020/10/24/the-non-dual-vision-of-jesus-christ-and-the-teachings-of-sri-ramana-maharshi-non-duality-advaita-christianity/

[Water by the River]

@Bazooka Jesus

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arianism

this one?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arian_controversy

or not?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unitarianism

or this one?
 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nontrinitarianism

or that one?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adoptionism

or even this one?

I honestly lost the overview:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diversity_in_early_Christian_theology

Jesus...

and where does the Bazooka come from?

And since we are here happy nondualistic (and some even solipsistic) folks, who would rejects the validity of MellowEds statement that Jesus is God. Since there is only God...

 

Edited April 26 by Water by the River

[MellowEd]

1 hour ago, Water by the River said:

@Bazooka Jesus

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arianism

this one?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arian_controversy

or not?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unitarianism

or this one?
 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nontrinitarianism

or that one?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adoptionism

or even this one?

I honestly lost the overview:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diversity_in_early_Christian_theology

Jesus...

and where does the Bazooka come from?

And since we are here happy nondualistic (and some even solipsistic) folks, who would rejects the validity of MellowEds statement that Jesus is God. Since there is only God...

 

Don't be so quick to judge. Not everyone here are nondualistic.

But yes most people perish. 

[Bazooka Jesus]

@Water by the River

Uh... you must be confusing me with another guy.

I swear, I wasn't even home that evening!

Anyway, I'll take the compliment. 

 

 

PS: I just learned my new favorite word on Wikipedia: Coeternal.

Mmmm, that's a good one. I am going to try to use that word in a bar conversation tonight. Wish me luck!

 

Edited April 26 by Bazooka Jesus

[Water by the River]

2 minutes ago, Bazooka Jesus said:

Coeternal.

Mmmm, that's a good one. I am going to try to use that word in a bar conversation tonight. Wish me luck!

I mean, what could possibly go wrong? 

Next topic for the bar conversation, flowing smoothly from one topic to another, could be:

"As the Fourth Lateran Council declared, it is the Father who begets, the Son who is begotten, and the Holy Spirit who proceeds"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinity#Trinity_in_literature

Then, one could go cross-cultural: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trikaya

 

And oh yes, it was YOU. All of it. Because, hm, only game in town. Infinity, and such...

 

PS: Good luck!

[Bazooka Jesus]

27 minutes ago, Water by the River said:

And oh yes, it was YOU. All of it.

Good God, we have another case of Solipsitis. Yikes!

Alright, you know the drill... self-quarantine for ten days. Which should't be too hard if you're quite literally the only Self in town.