Israel / Palestine News Thread

[Raze]

4 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

They did it because a nation should have their own control.   If they want to build nukes they should be able to.   For their own defense.  If a civil war took place and the nukes fell into the wrong hands how would you know?  You can't know until certain behavior is expressed.  

Can a nation just out of the blue just launch a nuclear attack?  Yes but it is that probable?  No but this can happen now so it's not anything that isn't a current threat now 

Efforts should be made to stop volatile countries with lots of enemies from having nukes, it just takes one to go off and we are in a nuclear war.

US law also states they shouldn’t give military aid to countries that create nukes outside of the non proliferation treaty. 

Edited October 2, 2024 by Raze

[Atb210201]

25 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

I'm glad religion keeps them from certain evils but what evils are they doing that seems to evade Islam or that they remain blinded to and refuse to apply Islam to?

It's what they saw with the regime's behaviour towards women mostly two years ago with Mahsa Amini's death caused by the hijab keepers forces.

Although some of the supporters of the regime claimed that she was an Israeli spy but nobody believes them. They are just angry with the regime very much and call them liars.

And also the economy is dying here it's just so hard to live in Iran.

We should work for almost 20 years probably more just to be able to buy a house or something with a regular job.

It's just awful the regime blames it on the sanctions applied to Iran by the west but again people are not in line with the regime mostly and want them gone and want a more friendly regime with the west.

Edited October 2, 2024 by Atb210201

[Atb210201]

15 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:

But don’t many of those strict and Muslim leaders who tout this "western materialism is bad" stuff live very wealthy amd have many material possessions and also many of their children live wealthy and some study in the west and have expensive cars and such?

It is said that the supreme leader of Iran lives in a very small house with everything minimal attitude.

I don't know though lots of people don't buy it lots of the supporters do and even say we have been to his house and it's true but I myself don't know lots of them are claimed to be living very minimalistically by others not by themselves some maybe by themselves also.

Although some of their kids are living in western countries lots of them so that's also one main point of conflict sometimes in Iran against them and it is true.

Edited October 2, 2024 by Atb210201

[Inliytened1]

13 minutes ago, Raze said:

Efforts should be made to stop volatile countries with lots of enemies from having nukes, it just takes one to go off and we are in a nuclear war.

US law also states they shouldn’t give military aid to countries that create nukes outside of the non proliferation treaty. 

I would agree based  on current stability but number of enemies really isn't logical.  

Edited October 2, 2024 by Inliytened1

[PurpleTree]

12 minutes ago, Raze said:

Efforts should be made to stop volatile countries with lots of enemies from having nukes, it just takes one to go off and we are in a nuclear war.

US law also states they shouldn’t give military aid to countries that create nukes outside of the non proliferation treaty. 

Yea efforts were made and papers and nuclear treaties were signed and such there was a stability for decades . But now things seem to be changing because there is always fear of a bigger war or ww3 and for example Russia and China want a new world order. So Russia will probably help more friendly nations get stronger or even nuclear weapons. Which seems logical but can easily backfire when such weapons get into the wrong hands at some point.

[Inliytened1]

10 minutes ago, Atb210201 said:

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And also the economy is dying here it's just so hard to live in Iran.

We should work for almost 20 years probably more just to be able to buy a house or something with a regular job.

 

That's how it is in the US too 😀

Edited October 2, 2024 by Inliytened1

[Atb210201]

Just now, Inliytened1 said:

That's how it is in the US too 😀

Dude what?

Come on people here are aspiring to be like US and want to live in the US.

Does it take that much time for a US citizen to buy a house is your economy which is the first in the world that bad?

[PurpleTree]

2 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

That's how it is in the US too 😀

In Europe too.

The decades working for a house thing.

[Inliytened1]

1 minute ago, Atb210201 said:

Dude what?

Come on people here are aspiring to be like US and want to live in the US.

Does it take that much time for a US citizen to buy a house is your economy which is the first in the world that bad?

Yes..it takes decades to save for a 20k down payment on a house with a normal job.

Edited October 2, 2024 by Inliytened1

[Atb210201]

3 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Yes..it takes decades to save for a 20k down payment on a house with a normal job.

I didn't know that actually.

So in that sense the regime was right then when it says US is no different or even worse lol.

Edited October 2, 2024 by Atb210201

[Leo Gura]

@Atb210201 You are a Westernized Iranian. But many Iranians are not.

[PurpleTree]

5 minutes ago, Atb210201 said:

I didn't know that actually.

So in that sense the regime was right then when it says US is no different or even worse lol.

Yup.

But in the US you can probably get high paying jobs in tech and such and then probably easily buy a house. While many people in LA and NY with normal or lower end jobs live in shared flats and rooms in their 30s and 40s

Edited October 2, 2024 by PurpleTree

[Leo Gura]

$20k down in the US will not buy you a shack, nevermind a house.

[Atb210201]

17 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

@Atb210201 You are a Westernized Iranian. But many Iranians are not.

You'd be surprised to know that I'm not that much of a westernised Iranian as other Iranians are.

But yes I know lots of the older generations are not.

And there are also a lot of younger generations who are not westernised as well.

So there are two groups in Iran but I was talking about the most of the people specially the younger generations they are mostly westernised.

Edited October 2, 2024 by Atb210201

[Atb210201]

10 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:

Yup.

But in the US you can probably get high paying jobs in tech and such and then probably easily buy a house. While many people in LA and NY with normal or lower end jobs live in shared flats and rooms in their 30s and 40s

It's crazy that a regular job is not enough even there to live just a simple life with a house and a roof over your head.

Edited October 2, 2024 by Atb210201

[PurpleTree]

1 minute ago, Atb210201 said:

You'd be surprised to know that I'm not that much of a westernised Iranian as other Iranians are.

But yes I know most of the older generations are not.

And there are also a lot of younger generations who are not westernised as well.

So there are two groups in Iran but I was talking about the most of the people specially the younger generations.

Ahura Mazda

[Atb210201]

1 minute ago, PurpleTree said:

Ahura Mazda

Haha are you calling Leo AKA God?

Edited October 2, 2024 by Atb210201

[PurpleTree]

Just now, Atb210201 said:

It's crazy that a regular job is not enough even there to live just a simple life.

I live in Europe.

In my country most people rent and don’t buy a house or apartment. But here a regular job is enough to live a "simple life"

[Atb210201]

2 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:

I live in Europe.

In my country most people rent and don’t buy a house or apartment. But here a regular job is enough to live a "simple life"

Well that's great maybe the US isn't the first economy of the world after all.

[Spiritual Warfare]

Just now, Atb210201 said:

Well that's great maybe the US isn't the first economy of the world after all.

Scandinavia and Europe definitely are. The U.S. is not close.