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Over the past few weeks I have been experiencing something very impactful, ineffable and beyond profound. I have been having what I call Glimpses of How Existence Actually Is. They have occurred maybe 5 or 6 times now. I have 11 years of experience with Nondual Meditation, Contemplation, and 8 years of experience with psychedelics (Cannabis, Psilocybin LSD, MDMA and DMT). I’ve also read many books on consciousness, nonduality, etc. These Glimpses of Actual Reality are orders of magnitude profound than any of my most powerful nondual experiences or any of my breakthrough psychedelic experiences. It is something that is beyond experience, beyond words, beyond linguistic description but here I will make an attempt to describe it. Here is what has been happening. At spontaneous moments when I am simply going about living my life I will get a visceral “feeling” prior to thought, of “how did I get here?” in relation to Life. Within milliseconds flashes of my birth and how I perceived the world as an infant and throughout “my life” will flash into my mind. This is juxtaposed with a complete removal of all sense of solidity. All definitions for objects and concepts are removed. Reality feels entirely like a Mind and all objects and phenomena feel like ideas and thoughts being imagined into being. Almost immediately as this feeling comes up, I also see the entire experience of life to be deeply and profoundly alien. But it also the most familiar and obvious way of being. It feels so factually real. It’s not necessarily “alien” because there is absolutely no sense of separation or other when these glimpses happen. Its just the most profound recontextualization. I immediately realize that all of existence is ephemeral and is a dream that is Imagined. And that I am existence itself and thus I as existence am being imagined right now. That the entirety of everything that ever can be is simply an idea occurring within Infinite Mind and that this, what I am experiencing right here, right now is the Absolute. That this right here, right now is the Ultimate. That this right here, right now is the Godhead. I feel infinite power and ultimate freedom. But it is alien beyond words compared to my standard baseline “human” state of consciousness. In short I go from a human on a planet that sees himself as fundamentally unified with all phenomena; to being Absolute Mind Imagining Infinity. It’s such a drastically different way of being than what I am used to, than what any of my peak nondual or psychedelic experiences have shown me. It’s so radically Truthful that the illusion of all of this life and existence is seen so completely obviously. Then fear comes up. A visceral primal fear comes up prior to any thoughts. I fear that this will destabilize me and that I wont be able to function if I perceive reality and life like this. And if I cant navigate life then I can’t survive. And so it is this almost immediate somatic fear creates a false separation that pulls me back into the assumed stability of illusion and away from How Existence Actually Is. All of this occurs in the span of 2 or 3 seconds. My consciousness shoots up to infinity then comes back down to human level. I have reflected on this for the past few days and have come to understand that my fear is ego resistance to Reality. My ego feels threatened on a survival level at directly experiencing the Absolute in daily life and seeing life as imaginary, as an idea occurring in the God Mind. The concern that I wont be able to navigate life while perceiving it this way is understandable, given how drastically different it is compared to the “human” level perception that I’m used to. However I can see that this fear is unnecessary. If this is how reality actually is, If this is the Truth of how existence really is and if this is my direct experience, even if it is very different than what I am used to; why be scared? I care about Truth more than anything. And I choose The Truth even if it means that I can no longer navigate life. However I don’t think this is necessarily a concern. I think the best thing to do is to simply accept and surrender to these God Mind glimpses and open up to them when it comes on. There may be a period where I may be disoriented and need to readjust to a new way of interfacing with life and existence. The more I surrender and accept the process, the more smoothly I will flow into a new more honest and more true way of being. A way of being that paradoxically would enable this imagined individuation to navigate this imagined idea dream of life much more synchronistically, joyfully and effectively. Contrary to the reluctance of the visceral fear, these glimpses of the Absolute are an invitation to living and being in the greatest place an individuation can possibly be. In Truth.
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This is where I have beef with some of the nonduality teachers(except gangaji and J. krishnamurti.) My logic tells me that we behave as we perceive ourselves. If we perceive ourselves in lack and seperation(unawareness, ignorance), we will generate seeking energy to fill that sense of lack. If we percieve ourselves as not lacking anything at all(truth, enlightenment, realization), our behavior will be no longer about self grasping but just an extension of joy that radiates through you. And that's a big shift in behavior and state of mind imo.
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I'm not even sure if anything has to change—it's already a nondual experience of everything; there was just a belief that something else was happening, and that caused seeking energy to appear. When it's seen that nothing has to change and this is already it, then that's already a nondual experience of everything, as it always was, even the seeker was nonduality appearing as separation, because it can, since it's completely free to be anything.
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Mm... That's a strange one. Haven't you heard teachers say that the I am is a formless and infinite and that it's our true nature? It seems like becoming formless and infinite is the whole point of nonduality. Maybe you're exposed to different material idk. I've always heard I AM being described as enlightenment basicly.
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Someone who would be capable of unconditional love for everyone is probably super rare. But it's definitely possible to undo judgement through prayer and forgiveness or meditation. Whenever we notice a judgment arise we can enter communion with the holy spirit and allow it to correct our perception. I experience that daily. Many people do. Each time our judgments get corrected it bridges the gap from seperation closer to nonduality. But it's still a long walk. Feels like an endless walk maybe, who knows. There's people pleasing that serves God. And there's people pleasing that serves the ego. The second one is obviously not cool but it's not easy to tell the difference I guess. This is where asking the question "what do I truly want" becomes important and listening to the answer that gently reveals inside your heart. Then the true heart's impulse (or the holy spirit) fills the mind with the most appropriate action to take at the given situation. This topic has so many nuances I feel.
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Interesting thing is that if you were to accept her, you'd get closer to nonduality than ever before. That's the beauty of acim methadology. In fact, no amount of practice, meditation or nondual phylosophy will ever get someone to oneness unless they remove the walls of judgement that create the perception of seperation. How simple yet how much resistance at the same time.
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@CoolDreamThanks well I guess you're right. I used to be into the art of non doing aswell. Gangaji used to be my favorite one. I think she's one of the few that has a solid understanding on it. Others in my view are just gaslighting people with nonduality lol. Acim and wom speaks on this subject aswell. So there's definitely value from it indeed. "To do anything involves the body. ²And if you recognize you need do nothing, you have withdrawn the body’s value from your mind. ³Here is the quick and open door through which you slip past centuries of effort, and escape from time. ⁴This is the way in which sin loses all attraction _right now._ ⁵For here is time denied, and past and future gone. ⁶Who needs do nothing has no need for time. ⁷To do nothing is to rest, and make a place within you where the activity of the body ceases to demand attention. ⁸Into this place the Holy Spirit comes, and there abides. ⁹He will remain when you forget, and the body’s activities return to occupy your conscious mind. Yet there will always be this place of rest to which you can return. ²And you will be more aware of this quiet center of the storm than all its raging activity. ³This quiet center, in which you do nothing, will remain with you, giving you rest in the midst of every busy doing on which you are sent. ⁴For from this center will you be directed how to use the body sinlessly. ⁵It is this center, from which the body is absent, that will keep it so in your awareness of it. (https://acim.org/acim/en/s/225#7:1,7:2,7:3,7:4,7:5,7:6,7:7,7:8,7:9,8:1,8:2,8:3,8:4,8:5 | T-18.VII.7:1-9;8:1-5) "Well, I have read the Course in Miracles one time, and it didn’t seem to work — I’ll read it again. Oh, that didn’t work. Well, maybe I’ll go try this form of meditation. No, that didn’t work. Maybe I’ll try Buddhism. No, that didn’t work. I’ll try Christianity. No, that didn’t work. I’ll try drugs — that will do it! The very energy of seeking is the egoic energy. For only the ego can seek. Pure Spirit can only extend. And there is a huge difference!"
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That's the expression of your personal self. You have to dig deeper, beyond the desires of the personal self lies the impulse of God itself. When you touch that desire with your awareness, then you have touched God himself. And it's a different state than detached witness awareness. It's full of glory and grandness (but not arrogance). Just the grandness of God that descend from the top of the crown to the rest of your body vibrating with joy and overwhelming love. It's a messianic conciousness. That's where true ability to manifest comes through and it comes no longer from the personal self but from the devine self that extends only the good, the holy and the beautiful. If it's Jesus that you're looking for, then you'll need a different approach. No one in nonduality circles know about this state. It's a completely different game.
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samijiben replied to Sugarcoat's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Duality is quite obvious. But nonduality is even more obvious. It is so powerfully obvious that it shatters the illusion of Duality. Ta-Daaaa!!! lol -
@Sugarcoat The main issue is that my childhood friends keep giving me the cold shoulder and they ignore and block my apologies. Maybe I am just right after-all, and they needed that tough love. They have been roasting me in a group chat for years because I have a spiritual TikTok page. I thought they would be proud of me and happy for me. I guess friendship, laughter and nostalgia does not cure plain old jealousy. I have been listening to Leo and this guy Terrence Stephens "nonduality" for almost a decade. I now am getting more views than Leo. And I feel guilt for that. I don't deserve this attention and praise. I just want my spiritual older brother to be healthy and happy. It angers and frustrates me to see Leo constantly battling health problems. I have an idea that probably was not even suggested yet, in terms of healing. But I am deeply afraid of Leo. What if he will get irritated if I even suggest a new healing modality. I just want to help. But I always get in trouble for that. Basically... I was at Dr. Joe Dispenza's retreat in Cancun, Mexico during the pandemic in 2020, there IS a way to heal almost anything. Oddly enough, It would take the cooperation of this entire forum. Not expecting that to happen. We would basically flow ALL of our loving energy towards a picture of Leo or just group love concentrated in one spot. We ALL collectively can heal Leo's body if we gather around him, even if it is a symbol or picture. I have seen people stand up from wheelchairs and I am as skeptical as they come. I just want him to be open about the healing. And to put a little bit of his trust in Dispenza's work as he measures what we all here call The mystical, he measures the electricity in the brain especially during an awakened state. You CAN change your genetic expression, to a timeline that has never involved sickness in the first place. Leo, all I want is for you to be open and as open as I was when you rescued me from the drudgery of atheism and a loveless life. You gave me the greatest gift of all. You told me I am God. I now know I am Love and God. I have never been happier but this last little shroud of guilt even for making this post still lingers... Go easy on me guys. I have some ideas on how to heal virtually anyone... Be open about Dr. Joe Dispenza's research too. He involves other doctors and skeptics to verify his lab results all the time.
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PurpleTree replied to Never_give_up's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I think my faves right now are Alexis and Andreas because they have so much material. Alexis is more on the flowery language side while Andreas is very kind of ordinary. Jim is good too. I actually went to my first live nonduality events also this year. -
PurpleTree replied to Never_give_up's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Nonduality on youtube. -
PurpleTree replied to Gigsi's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Getting addicted to nonduality nonsense -
nexusoflife replied to nexusoflife's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@integral The ego cannot reproduce it. Because to have a goal or want something is to create a demarcation, is to create a duality. And thusly the femtosecond your mind creates that duality you are immersed in delusion and illusion. The reason it typically happens in the kitchen or when you're doing something that doesn't require the mind too much is precisely because you're not attempting to make anything profound happen. Simply devote yourself completely to nonduality, make your whole life about it, be honest and your mind, your being will become fertile soil for Awakening to be realized. -
Has anyone made a post or a short list of where Leo's teachings different from 'regular' nondual teachings? I'm not well versed in any other teachings but saw this video and the teachings all sound the same as Leo's: You are living in the dream but your suffering feels 100% real. The ego will always find subtle ways to reinforce itself All is one, but burn through karma
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Hello, at the moment I'm doing an education for facilitating circling. I'm doing this education because I want to deepen my circling practice. Circling is a practice which combines authentic relating with meditation and with psychotherapy. Very powerful, my relationships are deepening since I'm doing regular circling and I experienced depths in human connection that feel psychedelic and just show me more and more what is actually possible in connection and how deep, nurishing and joyfull real connection is. Im also doing regular contact improvisations jams, which is an experimentative dance form. I'm also thinking about switching job (at the moment I'm working hourly in a supermarket) that is more aligned with my values. I'm also exploring nonduality at the moment and system thinking. Ah and almost forgot to say that but im starting an education in somatic experience in the end of the year. It seems that my future seems to be heading in the direction of being something like a therapist. Im 23 and kinda lost a bit because I see so much possibilities and I'm not sure what to do. I love exploring human connection and it's so nourishing but im not sure how to integrate that into my "life purpose", should I do YT videos (I am trying it but am not sure yet if i want to go that route)? should I focus on exploring and deepening stuff in this area and trust that with time it will resolve itself? I did a long time of theater but it doesn't catches my attention anymore and I'm really drawn to contact improv dance and Im asking myself if I should explore more the world of performance. Im going regular to meditation retreats and also see potential in the direction of focusing more on consciousness exploration and making a life purpose out of that. At the moment im drawn mostly drawn to exploring connection but outside of authentic relating spaces I don't see so much possibilities to explore that besides a bunch of good friends. I have a big urge to have it figuret out and having the possibility to explore this more and even tought about moving to a bigger city for more possibilities(i live at the moment at a 180-220.000 city). I'm just worried that the potential that is clearly there doesnt get used in a fullfiling way for me. I just feel limited and am asking myself if Im in the right direction and should just trust the process, if I should be more concrete, if I should be more diciplined and do more stuff and be more proactive...i kinda feel a bit anxious and I can imagine that an perspective from outside could be fruitful. I am exploring my potential but it feels that there is more and I'm not sure how to tap into the fullest and because of that there are a lot of days when I just do nothing, not reading, not educating myself, consuming and just being lazy. I want to do something with this stuff but dont really know what
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samijiben replied to samijiben's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Salariatu For sure, man. Will definitely give a go at the Shambhavi Mudra. Have you experienced any benefits from your practice? Please do share... Such possibilities make me excited. My cock is hardening at the prospect of reaching enlightenment thru this specific meditation.. @Breakingthewall 2 ug?? Lol you must weigh 20 pounds, otherwise you are floating in outer space! @PurpleTree Vat is Dat? (radical nonduality talks) @CoolDreamThanks Again, your admirable and passionate commitment to studying ACIM is worthy and noble. -
PurpleTree replied to samijiben's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Get addicted to radical nonduality talks. -
Whoa. Research time @Leo Gura ...I hear people speak and they are strong in their ability to deliver truth in an elegant, simple way even if it is in direct contradiction to mainstream ideas (like the idea of all far lefts being anti-fascist)...these diamonds in the dirt I find every now and again are incredibly powerful, often because of how simple they are. Just so stripped of unnecessary BS. It's like chess. Often the most advanced chess players are only thinking with the most extreme forms of basic logic and simple thought patterns. Is there a broad umbrella term that exists to identify people who speak with such simplicity, accuracy and directness (and subsequently power)? You know, people like us on this site. Ideally the term couldn't be "truth-teller" or "sage" as everyone claims to be a truth teller and sages are often way off in some abstract philosophical realm. I was thinking calling them "people of profound insight"? It would just be good if we had a term for this kind of truth seeker kind of like how "Nonduality" is the term for the core of our philosophical stance...?
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I'm actually pretty thrilled about life and the future, I want to keep traveling the world, and meet different people. There's so much I haven't done. I don't believe in self-sacrifice, I don't know if it's narcissism or nonduality, but I would never severely handicap my life for someone else. It's quite a shallow question IMO, get 20 million government points and miss 80% of your life. You'll barely be able to walk at 85. I don't know how you can think this way
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What's your personal opinion on GP Walsh, Nonduality teacher?
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Sempiternity replied to Sempiternity's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
He was my very first introduction to the concepts of Nonduality. Found Leo's teachings shortly after. -
LambdaDelta replied to LambdaDelta's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Oh yes, God is always striving for more, evolution is a manifestation of his "learning curve". The perfection is the fact that it's an eternal path towards perfection, it's got no end nor beginning. God's greedy and sneaky like that. Funny to think how some of the deadly sins are warped reflections of God's attributes. Narcissism, pride, lust, greed. That's why I'm no fan of traditional static notions of nonduality, it's too boring, while God is branching out in every way imaginable as we speak. That one's curious, like Absolute Bad, on the one hand it's entirely FALSE because all is TRUTH, but they still have reality as conceptual overlays within the TRUTH of I AM. There are some things impossible for God, because God is total possibility, there's no room left for impossibility. In a certain sense God isn't a miracle, it's a certainty that has occupied the entirety of the probability distribution, it is the distribution. And yeah, getting to see intelligence in idiocy is a great power, for instance when I see people littering I'm conscious of how this is an intelligent unconscious survival mechanism, the ego knows deep down it is impermanent, for all its struggles to persist, so it cuts corners wherever possible. Even saving a bit of energy by not carrying the can till the garbage dump counts. -
It was the grandest party one could ever hold, with vibrant colors dancing around, shapes morphing delightfully, divine music reverberating throughout, and pleasant aromas lingering in the air. The birth of the Universe, a true celebration of Being. But the real gold came afterwards. As a mystic you have to love not just attending the festivities, but also cleaning up. There was silence, and in that silence Truth revealed itself, like Yahweh to Moses. 'To be' is the only verb that does not require duality, I AM is the bedrock beyond which you cannot go, try as you might. The intensity has left me bedridden for a day and severely debilitated for another few. First, a few words about Will. The Will of God is for all its parts to be sovereign unto themselves. The Will is completely surrendered to that end. God is entirely selfless because it is every self. Want to know God's Will? Look around and look at yourself. Together with Truth and Love it forms the Holy Trinity. Nothing can ever go against God's Will, doing so would be impeding God's self-expression. Will is so absolute that God itself can't alter it, even if it breaks God's heart sometimes. It's a Love so complete that even though it accepts itself fully, there are parts that do not, there's hate and there's desire for things to happen differently, aka bias, but the larger Love includes all that. God is such a being that by virtue of existing it casts this shadow upon itself. In a Newtonian sort of way it creates an opposite reaction to itself, some might call that the Devil. Hence nihilism, suicide, suffering. Still, a call for true Goodness is within everything, just that if you don't recognize it you'll be like a compass that doesn't understand why it's pointing north. Can't spell compassion without compass by the way. Another implication is that relative things are also absolutes. Violence is an absolute, because it Is. To ask God for there to not be violence is to ask God to not be itself. Absolute Bad is not a thing, there's only Absolute Good, existence itself. Absolute Bad would be the absence of anything; no God, not even the possibility for there to be good or bad or an experience for you to judge things as such. How come nothing in the world changed even though I went through the creation of the Universe? Because it wasn't a new event per se, I simply became conscious of what already Is. Consciousness has a bottomless capacity for self-obfuscation, that's really all that's happening here. How God inquires into and inscribes itself into Being is the mystery of mysteries. One could conceive of it as a very high level bureaucracy, where the inefficiencies are not flaws, they're tools to set the rhythm. With each awakening you're getting infinity, but only the part of Infinity that you can presently handle. The rest remains obscured. Your understanding may be infinite yet still partial. Think of it like zooming into a Mandelbrot set, frame by frame. You think you have the whole picture, and in a way you do, but you haven't yet put together that the frames are part of a larger thing. When you do, maybe you start perceiving it as a continuous video stream, but of limited duration, because perhaps the software you're playing it with can't display infinity, it only deals with unsigned integer values and then cuts off or loops. This is in equal part a warning and inspiration. Know that there's ever greater depths, but don't overreach. Ignorance is God’s gift and God’s mercy. If you knew the fullness of what you are, you’d die on the spot. Be as grateful for what you're denied as for what you're given. If you told me just a week ago such an experience was possible I wouldn't have believed it, despite a vast array of prior ones. As it turns out, not even intuition combined with experience can correctly grasp true Infinity. How does one go deeper? Up to you, but if I may give a tip, learn to get very comfortable with paradox, in particular the identity of Multiplicity and Unity. This was an exploration of Multiplicity so full it looped around on itself into the Oneness of I AM, as it always beautifully does. Relative and provisional human knowledge is crucial. Study natural sciences, sociology, politics, programming, geography, mathematics, laws, psychology, languages, economics... if nothing else they'll be useful anyhow, but seeing God in all of it is what will enable the most intuitive understanding and unending passion. For instance, I've had brushes with dimensions where consciousness is cultivated and traded as liquid in vials, a property register of consciousness, an inverse of consciousness, something I call hole consciousness, and many more. It's topology of Consciousness. These are inaccessible with your regular nonduality or even God Realization. They're utterly alien, but counterintuitively reaching them has its roots in human knowledge. Know that frustrations, misunderstandings, periods where you seem lost and unable to get through to anyone are the laying of the foundation that will allow moving to the next level. I've gone through a rough few weeks that culminated in this, and I wouldn't have been able to take it without that. The slow erosion of ego prepares you for a smoother ego death. It may look like the effort isn't amounting to anything, but that is not the case. You are being observed. Think about that. Being is observing itself. God—you as a sovereign—is the only witness that matters. I've also gained a new perspective on stage Blue values like law and order. In the legal system, the most sacred principle is public faith. Nihil prius fide. Without this common consensus, not much of anything could be achieved, people delegate their authority and put their trust in a certain institution, such as notariate. Similarly, in sworn testimonies, God is often invoked as the witness and guarantor of truth. It is also said in certain interpretations of law that silence is acceptance. Qui tacet consentire videtur. And so it is with God. God's silence is the acceptance of whatever is occurring. Reality is here, as it is willed. If it were not willed, it wouldn’t be. It's the supreme consent of Love. There is Law to the workings of God, one that is currently beyond anyone's grasp. Models like Spiral Dynamics reflect certain aspects of God in their limited capacity. Beige survival. Red power. Blue law. Orange reason. Green love. Which is why you can't build your tower to heaven without a solid foundation of all those stages. If you're stuck, there's most likely a shadow of one or more stages, however faint, that blocks upward movement. God halts the process out of care, to prevent the collapse of the entire structure. Meditation is torture because you can't handle the silence, it becomes a mirror in which you start seeing all of yourself and that's terrifying. Or it's simply terribly boring. But once you know what that silence is, how it's a quiet gift from God, sustaining all of reality while asking for nothing in return, enabling you to think your silly thoughts and do your selfish deeds, you'll appreciate it. I can finally rest in peace in that silence. Had to seriously consider for a time whether I should ever speak at all after this, because in a way anything I could say or do would just be a distraction that would diminish my consciousness of God. But alas my work is not done yet so I remain. However I now understand some of those sages that just go live out the rest of their days meditating in a cave. It's a life changing experience like no other, a milestone on the spiritual path that splits it into a before and after. These are few and far between. I've also had to rethink how I speak, the weight of the words I use, the consequences of my actions. Still figuring that out. Whatever you do, stay aware that all roads lead to God, that is the ontological fact of I AM and the highest joy. That is all.
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Aaron p replied to Never_give_up's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
So nonduality is a collapsing of all distinctions theoretically...that would include sane Vs insane. But you need to be careful to do it correctly or you will fuck yourself up badly, you can actually do the wrong direction and very bad things can happen be careful