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@Thanatos13 Honestly, where is the love you experience coming from? Is it a product of your heart? Your head? Both? Thinking, chemical reaction, then bodily sensation? Who experiences that process?

No, that’s religion / dogma. Instead, Self inquiry. Direct experience. The only worth of spirituality is a means to directly experiencing the truth, nonduality. Realize you’re adding the negative value, and don’t attempt anything. You are justifying your negativity here, while claiming no meaning / meaninglessness. Read what you wrote as if someone else wrote it. Dualities....desirable, not desirable. Positive, negative. Spiritual, not spiritual. Thinking won’t resolve any of this for you. The thinking reinforces the llusion. It’s completely contingent on it, until it isn’t at all. Being - is without thinking.

That is how deep the illusion runs. Wake up. Realize you’re projecting.

@Shakazulu Yes. By revealing you are the entire universe. You must be brave to be honest, so much so, until you see the truth, and see there is no catalyst for either. There never was. There is no path, but only a fool doesn’t walk it.

Thánatos: Son of Nyx (Night) and Erebos (Darkness) and twin of Hypnos(Sleep). The assumptions and projections are so deep, they are being mistaken for truth. This is classic “being right”, to reinforce the ego. Maya is sneakier than you have realized yet. The Self is horrifying if you hang on to the ego. When you let go, it’s joy. It is our light which most frightens us.

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@thehero You’re giving me too much credit here, thanks. I occasionally see a faint white light around people. Almost always when someone is speaking about something they are really into, and especially if it’s in front of a lot of people. There are people / places which (at least claim to) have devices that show your aura live on a screen. I haven’t directly experienced any of this but I’ve read about it. Might be something calling you. Just for fun though, if someone did read your aura, what would you want them to tell you it ‘said’?

@TheSomeBody You’re saying you can’t and it’s impossible, and you’re right. Someone else says they can and it is possible, and they’re right.

There’s a point where the nothing situation becomes obvious.

@Dodo You’re not alive right now.

@SteveRogers Nice. Sounds like you had a great time. My speculation is that you experienced nonduality, and there was not enough practices and or theory (foundation) for integration. Thanks for sharing your experience! There really is nothing serious going on here, meanings and whys are brain stuff. Might have some false views to realize, and maybe you take things a little too seriously in general too. To experience what you did, even considering things appear serious again, is still great.

I can make a human being using ordinary food.

@WindInTheLeaf I meant do that, and let us know how it goes. Direct experience is best.

??♥️♥️♥️ Just wait man. It’s quite unbelievable.

@WindInTheLeaf Do that. Let us know how it went.

@Sukhpaal Awesome. What a great thread.

@zoey101 Never any use strewing. You can be free of it while he’s awake, freaking out about the choices he has made. You can be calm. You can breath from your stomach deeply. Yeah, it does suck. But you know what Zoey, this will pass, and something else will suck, then that will pass, and something else will suck, and that will go on until you stop and decide to breath - and say wait a minute, I can choose to look at this differently. I will be ok. It doesn’t have to suck. I can relax and breath. This right here is my life and I’m going to live it. I’m going to grow, not freak out. This is why God gave us breathing, making it impossible to both be alive, and be without. Breath in that peace. This is not hypothetical.

@LiakosN Now that is unconditional! I love you too!

Reality is a myth.

@zoey101 First sit and focus on breathing from your stomach. Relax every little muscle from the very top of your head, slowly through your neck, down you back, through your hips, down your legs, and let any tension flow right out through your toes. Do this over and over. Commit to it. Take your understanding (very wise of you) that it is not about you, and turn it into a realization. Realize it - and you can start to see that it is you, your perspective, your motives, which create your “Furious and hurt”. You don’t have to. I acknowledge this is not trivial, or easy. You acknowledge this is an opportunity for you to grow at lightening speed. You might be able to help. You can’t fight with him, you can’t argue. He will be deeply confused and he will think this is a problem going on with YOU and HIM. You must return your focus to breathing from your stomach. You can’t get sucked into arguing with him. You shouldn’t even be mad at him. That would be selfish. Just love him genuinely. Tell him to get the help he needs. Ideally, he would check into a rehab / hospital - TODAY. That is not on you though. You take care of you, and that little miracle of yours.

@zoey101 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ao8L-0nSYzg https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sRvLxc9AFvY https://www.rehabs.com/i-left-my-addicted-husbandand-it-saved-our-lives/ https://www.12keysrehab.com/dos-and-donts-for-helping-your-addicted-spouse/

@zoey101 Yeah. I know. Sit, breathe from your stomach. It is okay. It is. Ground yourself in your stomach breathing. It’s calm. You’re going to appreciate that calm when you talk to him. “What can I say?”. What do you want to say? How much is what you want to say about you? How much can you ACTUALLY center yourself with stomach breathing, and put yourself aside? He is doing the meth in an attempt to heal, to feel better. He is very lost. Disconnected from God. You can focus on yourself, and not give 2 shits about what he needs. Or you can put yourself aside, and help him. Calmness is the key. I know you got a lot on the line.I know. Calmness is the key. Be an example. Not a judge. This addiction is bigger than both of you. He’s going to need professional help, and you’re going to get a glimpse of how much love is in you, how deep it is. It’s going to blow your mind.

@zoey101 If you notice, when you first wake up, you have a clean mental slate. A brand new mind. Like a toddler. Not a care in the world! Notice upon awakening, that the ego remembers, reloads concerns, recreates worrys. Awareness of this alone is enough. The idea that you have ever been anything less than perfect, absolutely free, and loved - are just ideas. It’s wild, but, you created those ideas! You don’t need them anymore. You’re perfect, free, and loved.

@phoenix666 Freakin awesome man. Thanks for sharing!!!!!!❤️??