Nahm

There is confusion between the denial of a self, the conceptual understanding of no-self (which is still a thought/concept), the realization of no-self (oneness / no objective reality / all is subjective / reduced thinking / end of the surface ego / end of reactional suffering / Freedom), the conceptual understanding of Self (there is only Self / Alone / Meaninglessness / thinking reduced more), and the realization of Self / God / Love (I am / there is only eternal Being/ there is only objectivity / all is Love / existence & nonexistence is a mental duality), and the actuality of Self/ Alone / Infinitude / Nothing to know, Nothing ever happened / Nothing is known (end of root suffering / end of traditional “thought” / Realization Of Spontaneous Creator/Creation / Infinite Intelligence) *If meaning is not inquired to full dissolution of “ego”, some monkey mind is still active. If meaning is dissolved fully, but emotion / sensation is still suppressed (unification is not realized) there will not be realization of embodiment. The denial of a self, and or understanding of conceptual no-self, are entry realizations prior to Self realization and Actualization, and are notorious for convincing us they are the end, or “enlightenment”, as abiding is nonrelative, and one doesn’t know consciousness outside of direct experience (don’t know what we don’t yet know is not the same as there is nothing to know/knowledge is of the illusion). In my opinion, if one has not practiced daily for years, and had direct enlightenment experiences via retreats, self inquiry, contemplation, and psychedelics, then one is in denial of Self via conceptual “no-self”, and or misunderstanding the realization of no-self, and has not yet experienced beyond these. This is all maya though, so don’t pay it too much attention. Just enough. Not too much. Or none of course.

@Rilles Lot of great stuff on this thread. One more consideration, have you explored that all the meaning in the universe is actually being applied by you? This can be a helpful pointer in awareness of the nature in which thoughts are arising, and in acceptance of this (might be some falsity to lash out) many of the thoughts simple don’t arise anymore, as there isn’t “meaning” being supported all the time.

@universe Choosing a better thought can be relatively life changing, simple & effortless. Then there is also the full circle, if you will, of cessation of separation, meaning and thought.

@Tistepiste Yes, the ego is as clever as you +1. It can not be beat, must be understood. Skype sounds great, I’ll pm ya in a couple days and maybe we can pick a morning.

@SoonHei ❤️???

It appears that what you actually believe is that your logic is more powerful than your feeling / vibration. That you need someone else to be happy, and that you can attract that someone else through a mindset of codependency & conditional love. That taking risks gets you into trouble. That rejection = pain. Furthermore, you believe this all applies to everything. That believing in yourself is stupid. That you must suffer when things don’t go as planned. These beliefs are how you feel, all the logic in the world has nothing on how you feel, and what you really believe about yourself, because, you are literally creating your own reality. Put how you feel first. Do not make conditions to your feeling good. Do not give the universe ultimatums. Do not blame. Put how you feel, first. Your power is not conditional, stop minimizing yourself. It is all pervasive, ever-present, it moves mountains, and creates universes - believe in yourself. Living through conditional happiness, is suffering. When you create this suffering, when you doubt & limit yourself, your inner being will not go there with you. It can’t. It is infinite intelligence, and unconditional love & happiness. It can not be otherwise. It does not pretend otherwise when you do. It is perfectly natural for you, to let go of your resistant thoughts of self doubt. The universe says yes to what you focus on. The “secret “ that anyone in nondual awareness knows, is nonduality. There is only you. So when you blame, assign fault, justify failure, etc - it is readily seen, that you are kidding yourself, short changing yourself - you are what is in your way - not someone else. It is readily seen, that you are experiencing exactly what you are attracting. There is not, nor has there every been, an example to the contrary.

@LiakosN ??

@i am I AM Up to you.

Awesome.

@Amanda R Batista There is not meaning in the world. You’re creating ALL meaning, in your head. You’re doing it effortlessly right now, to the degree you probably don’t believe this. In assigning meaning, you, create by labeling... “bad parts”, love, hate, etc. How to stop hating? Love ALL of yourself. No skimpin, no sneakiness, everything you do, don’t judge yourself, just love yourself, the “good”, “bad”, and the “ugly, love em all unconditionally. Inquire as to what this self is. There is no such thing as hate, except for you there is, because you’re rejecting part(s) of yourself. You’re holding “you” as separate, from what you don’t like, or prefer, because you don’t understand it. Thus, bringing more of that, around. Creating your own suffering. Meditate every morning, so you can create some space between awareness & thoughts, get some space around them to see the nature. Awareness will arise, and shine light on all facets of your life. Even the one’s you would rather hide from. Don’t give in to fear, look directly into it, find out what it’s made of. Meditate, every morning. Love everything, at any time, in every way you can. Try to realize the joy in life is that you get to love what you hate. Isn’t there a humorous, obviousness to how this thing works? ❤️❤️❤️

@TripleNipple Ifinite, or seeing that there’s nothing to know, ‘back in duality’ seems like there was something you knew infinitely. A joke of enormous portion you play on yourself. Less serious, more fun & funny life, more love in life...more enlightenment.

Make tea, if you aren’t already. The flesh of the shrooms causes nausea.

@Avidya I think you already got it there. Prior to there is really a question and seeking of purpose, after, you realize you are free to create your own purpose. Vantage point, experience, and sychnoronicty all come into play, either way.

@Tistepiste Me too. I have a Socratic conversation I’ve been having with people, awakening oriented. Been looking to possibly start doing it via skype. Might not be what you had in mind, or the right timing. Hard to say.

Maybe tweeking the perspective on that....would shed light on this.... I would consider that thought is very different in nature than sensations, and that thought is makes up a story to make the sensation fit the existing understanding / paradigms. Thought doesn’t help thought. The sensation is the experience of the relativity of the truth that you are, and the false thought(s), or perspective in which you’re looking at some person, some circumstances, or your own capabilities. So, rather, look at the sensation as a direct communication or message, on it’s own, directly from your higher self. Choosing a thought that feels better, aligns with all that you are. In the long run, your continued practices, and discovery of deeper truth through inquiry, will reduce the thinking, realize a great spaciousness, and enhance the alignment / connection with the rest of you. Another way to say that is the ego is kept alive with thinking, and when you start tapping into knowing the sensations directly, ego will throw everything at you to get your attention. It is exactly as clever and as tricky as you. It can be hard to face, to be aware of how clever and tricky we are, but that is how the devil is transcended. One devil at a time. A personal excorsicm here & there is all part of the proccess, and worthwhile.

@Ingit If you stay with her voice, this guided meditation might be specifically helpful. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HHshOvzERHQ

Surrender. Let anger out. Let crying out. Let everything go until there is only now. As the presence in which these purges and purification’s unfold, be mindful not to attach to any one emotion, or to conceptualize a long term, from a passing short term state of mind. There is a tremendous amount of love in you, and it’s totally normal to be initially terrified & overwhelmed. You might say falsity is surrendered, and character and resolve arise in that vulnerability. Paraxically being without armour is authentic strength, and heather & happier. The ‘purge’ can be rough. It’s all worth it, all like it should be. All is well.

@Tistepiste What do you mean? Did I not just reveal the secret of the pinky toe?

That is the game right there! ? Thanks for sharing! ♥️?

@Rilles ✅

@Sven @Tistepiste @Sahil Pandit Yes, thanks it’s going well. I appreciate your comments! This is the wheelhouse I’m going for. ??

@Rilles Found it. Pinky toe. Left foot.

@MM1988 Sounds lovely. What law of attraction teacher did you learn from? Also, I think you have well misunderstood Stoic Negative Visualization. It is about appreciation, and gratitude. ANother path to the same, as law of attraction.

@MM1988 It is “working”. You do not fully understand how you are attracting. What teachers are you learning this from? “Looking back negative visualization would have been the better thing to do.” What negative source are you aligning with? Maya?

@SoonHei You’re trying to pack the illusion, and lots of people, into your nonduality.