Nahm

Merely seen through, that’s all.

@Truth Addict ? (The tongue can not taste itself, the Tao can not be spoken)

@Truth Addict That’s wonderful. I’d add that while it seems silence is the absence of the sound of a spoken “X”, truly all sounds arise within the silence (you). And so “you”, can never be said, and the sound is secondary, or, always of the silence - though the sound appears not to be silence.

@Arhattobe Imo, that is a very good explanation of something impossible to explain. The explanation itself can not cross ‘from an 8 to a 4’ “barrior”, so to speak. Very nice! If it could, all would be lost; arts, sciences, etc. So it is, experience only for experience is revealed. Even, and imo especially, the “1 - 10” experience of itself.

@Truth Addict Impossible! We’re you too.

@Ria It’s always up to you. And I’m not exactly sure what you’re asking. Maybe you have more of a how question about something?

@Faceless ?? @Truth Addict The dream and machine terminology was as much a play on the op as it is true or not true (lighten up ☺️). No one can tell you what you are, we can only help you with what you are not. When you are what you are, then we are not. You were just dreaming us.

@Truth Addict You.

You didn’t hear that from me though.

Nothing can do everything, and nothing, and neither. The dream machine is not the ultimate Truth because it Is.

@oMarcos The dream machine dreams thought machines, one is asking about the dream machine now.

@Deano That’s pretty astute. They also use the hand held things (EMDR?) to detect psychology behind the slightest tensions.

@outlandish Nice.

@Aquarius Thank you.

(thought of amen)

@Ria Whatever you make it.

@Arhattobe The man who thinks nonduality means other than not two, and thinks infinity doesn’t include everything. Any SAND conference would do, it was a joke. Maybe you could grab that market share Bill Hicks left open.

No! You’re not in any states. You’re the I, the constant which is aware of experiences, states, etc. The states come and go, you were always you. Same you now.

You should take this act on the road. Intermission at the next SAND conference at the least. Thanks for that man. ??

@Aakash By “realize” you mean be in a different state? I is aware of that thought. Same I is aware of that state. Same I is aware of realizations. I never changes. You may not have noticed everyone is calling themselves by the same name. It might be more obvious now.

@Faye Got the chills too. Good for you. ♥️

If everything is predetermined, then why ask this question? Whatever answers you get, you will not be able to choose to do anything with, since you can’t make a choice. Do you have any questions at all, really, if everything is predetermined?

(“Awakening...How Do You Keep Hold Of It”) No! “Keeping hold” of “it” or anything, is how you get sucked back into the maya. “IT” is a thought! When you meditate and find the stillness - how did you ‘get to’ the stillness?! By letting everything go, so you can “meditate”. So awareness is needed on each occurrence in which you leave “letting go” by believing (identifying with) a thought. You can’t “hold on” to anything, that’s how you “hold on to it”. Scrutinize the feelings which each thought arises from.

If that’s not Infinite Humor.... @Serotoninluv “Post-egoic”. So simple & useful. Nice! @Toby Oh, then your comparison between kundalini & enlightenment was really the comparison of direct kundalini experience, and a thought about enlightenment?