Nahm

Is it mind or is it a sensation you are aware of?

@Viking Is it happening to you, or is it a sensation...which you are aware of?

@Viking So you feel it, it’s more of a sensation than over thinking?

What do you honestly think about loneliness?

@Mikael89 Sounds great. Slap an @Nahm here whenever. It will be very beneficial to you if while you’re doing your stuff to do, when any thoughts arise - look around you and see if any of the content of the thought or concept is ‘in the room’, can you see it, hear it, touch it? If not, just notice, it’s a thought, a concept, and or a belief. Looking forward to what that suffering has led you too. ?? And thanks for this experience.

Awesome job with expression. This is plenty enough to work with together. First... Can you be completely honest as we keep talking? (I’ll be typing words, but the end of your suffering will actually come from your own honesty.) If you can’t be honest, be upfront about it, and spend your time doing something else. Essentially I’m asking if you have suffered enough yet. It’s always easy to spot if someone has, because they will unequivocally say yes. One who hasn’t will just keep playing clever games.

Do you think there is a source of that? Are you aware it’s delusion (believing thoughts)? Sounds like you’re lost in concepts, beliefs, and identification. Do you want help with this? There are resources available for therapies, etc.

@TheWaterRuss Sorry, that doesn’t make sense for me. Are you happy, loving, at peace?

If you start looking into that, that is what spirituality is. When all the delusion is brought into the light, the light becomes known.

@TheWaterRuss What’s your actual experience though? Aside from context, beliefs & imagination.

Do some work on that.

@Giulio Bevilacqua Who would you be if you just half assed everything in your life, but had a ton of fun?

@Mikael89 You’ve got a heck of a self fulfilling prophecy going. Law of attraction is working well. You’re wanting to use women as an excuse not to become self aware, not to do any work, and you are getting that reality, which is entirely contextual and entirely unsatisfying. Are you able to articulate how it is your personality? Maybe explain what you say, or do, etc? How do you see women? How do you see your self?

@phllip103 Physical strength’s antithesis, spiritual strength via maxing your let go...?

@Giulio Bevilacqua Were one or both of your parents very impatient?

@Shin “Before enlightenment; bust balls on forum, after enlightenment; bust balls on forum” - Osho

@theking00 What stands between you and the peace? We want you to know this peace! Maybe we can deconstruct some things together (the forum commune that is). ♥️

Hey, welcome to forum. If there is one ‘theologian’ which needs no convincing, it is the rational atheist. As a materialist, the magnitude of suffering from their own beliefs is all the convincing necessary, albeit a slow painful path.

The clarity with desire and real / not real is in there, a two-for-one realization really. The Truth doesn’t have regard for belief. There are distinctions between the wants / choices, and the root of desire. And if this could simply be said it would be said here in the most transparent manner possible. You’re out of the what can be said zone, and deeply into the what can only be pointed to zone.

Is there really ‘coming back to nothing’? Can you really say you left? Or could return? How do those things keep delusion going if you can indulge consciously? Do they have both properties? You stated, ‘if you don’t want / need something, it has no power over you’..and ‘ego in a nutshell is a machine of wants and needs’...and you stated ego is the root of desire, and also that ego is not a real thing....yet it desires / wants; control, power, pleasure, success, happiness. If the ego is not a real thing - how can it be given credit for wanting anything? Woulnd’t desire therefore seem to have a deeper root?

❤ Yes. Because no women like me. My evidence is that every woman I have ever met have hated me. This is evidence of what is seen about woman, and experience of what you believe those woman were thinking. This is not evidence about what you wrote, “my personality”. This reply is a deflection. Deflection is not good or bad, it’s us, it’s just part of ourselves to be aware of. No judging, no beating up on yourself. It’s important to notice you experienced the sights and sounds etc of these woman - you did not experience what they were thinking. You have never experienced what anyone else thinks. So all of your thinking, which is about what other people think, you can let that go now. Cause you can’t, honestly, say you have experienced that anyone else even thinks at all. It’s an assumption based on what you see and hear. You can let it go now, as it will not help this exercise. Why is it important to make that distinction? Between your belief you experience what woman are thinking, and the actuality that you have never experienced that anyone else is thinking? Because now, you can realize what you’re taking a look at here is your thoughts. Not “woman’s thoughts”. Your thoughts. If you had 0 thoughts in a day about “what other people are thinking”, how much would your overall thinking be reduced by? %? And without those unnecessary over-thoughts, how much more clarity would arise? The belief we’re inspecting is...”I can not have a girlfriend”. When asked, who or what is preventing you, what reason stops you, you said....”My Personality” So I’m asking again for three pieces of evidence That Your Personality prevents this. 1. 2. 3. ♥️

Is there a loop though? Is there a ‘coming back to’ nothing? What is “thurst”? What actually is “control, power, pleasure, success, happiness”?