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Careful with what you ‘know’ to be true, it acts as a filter of what you’ll experience. These are conditions held now, which can be let go. Unless of course, what you actually want is a sexless lifetime alone. Doubtful.

@Someone here Solipsism ain’t it my love.

@Someone here Do you notice when you went from nonduality to love there, you went from not two, to two? Exactly who needs this explained ‘over & over again’? Nothing you’re saying is common sense.

...Overminding?

“Make your stomach your best friend” Osho

@Yoshy Awesome!

Unbelievable. ??

"Most persons are so absorbed in the contemplation of the outside world that they are wholly oblivious to what is passing on within themselves." - Nichola Tesla "In oneself lies the whole world and if you know how to look and learn, the door is there and the key is in your hand. Nobody on earth can give you either the key or the door to open, except yourself." Krishnamurti ”There is great love here for you”. Ester Hicks

There is no inner & outer. The ‘thought’ is not-two, though the implication or apparent content may be of separation. Unknow to Know. By no longer believing thoughts which appear to contextualize the true nature. ‘The devil is in the details’. (Figuratively) Inspect the thoughts. Uncover Truth.

Clarity grows naturally right out of the earth & needs no human manipulation or explanation.

A middle way.

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Does it feel good to...

@SS10 Notice the ‘you don’t feel like doing it’ experience of thought & feeling and stop and inspect it. Inspect the thoughts you are not resonating with, and understand why. Spot thoughts about there being a you in a future, or a tomorrow, and recognize the actuality that this moment, this experience, is appearing only ever now. Recognize the actuality of your own transience and the absolute impermanence of experience. Thinking about a yourself, and a yourself in time, does not resonate with your actual self which is being, appearing as this moment, this experience. This me/future thinking acts as an invisible veil over the actuality of a perpetual unexplainable miracle, which is the ever available source of all inspiration & creativity. Such thinking inspected disappears, and presence, being, is revealed. Tap into your unconditional true nature, and what was procrastinated miraculously become what you’re eager to experience now. After all, it’s what you want to do. A dreamboard in front of you makes it very easy to be mindful of why you want to, and how each task is cohesive of this dream unfolding, which you are the creator of.

@infinitenrgy Amazing. ??

This is somewhat common on the path. My advice would be to be curious about it. In the sense one with a reoccurring pain would typically instinctively avoid it or seek a cure, but can also feel into it and explore it, do the same with hearing. Hear into it, explore it, receive it, welcome it. Allow the receiving of the message of it. Be one with the background hum of the universe. Sound is a vibrational appearance of silence, just as matter is a vibrational appearance of being. You could frame this up that you are the vibration discovering the source of the vibration. As you ‘reach’ this line less line, subtle changes in the way reality is experienced, are experienced. You might also experience the pure white of all light. Much more pleasant and fascinating than the ringing. Don’t add resistance, let go to it. You might also frame it up as not encroaching upon you, but allowing you to let something go into it. Maybe something you’ve hung on to long enough, something you can put down now. Maybe something that truly was not your fault. Actually not your fault. Also, are you ‘moving awareness through the body’? Feeling ‘inside’ the body, and moving / ‘whooshing’ the awareness around? if not, I would. If this is new, start with feeling that there is sensation in the body of your feet. Then slowly expand that awareness of sensation through out the entire body. Might take a few days of a few minutes a day. It’s enjoyable, and you might want to do it all / anytime. Feel the same sensation ‘inside’ the body, and by focusing / awareness, feel it move around, sort of like water. If that all sounds ridiculous, google ‘the 5 bodies’ or ‘5 sheets’ and read a bit on different explanations & practices. I think Vipassana meditations & programs cover this as well. It’s not easy to explain, it’s a feeling / direct experience thing. It relates to the ringing. If you have specific questions once you have explored this in direct experience feel free to reply or pm.

Also....use feeling of discord, or feeling of alignment. ‘Play’ with different thoughts...and feel the discord or alignment. If a judgmental thought arises, like ‘something is wrong with me’...and feel the discord or alignment. Inner being going along, or not ‘going along’ with the thought. Then bring the opposite thought to mind, like ‘I am fine as I am’... and feel the discord or alignment. Inner being going along, or not ‘going along’ with the thought.

@Raptorsin7 Yes but keep going... What is the feeling something is wrong.....without resistance or judgement. ‘Wrong’ is resistance & judgement. Where is the feeling in the body. What is the feeling...describe it....burning....tingling...aching....etc.

@Persipnei Feelin the love as well! What a joy to hear & thank you!

Thank you. Appreciating the conversation, and your willingness to explore perspectives. (...I’m using quotes on the word experience (below) in the recognition it points to what is ineffable, not to imply in any way the experience was not valid or actual, but to continue exploring) Some questions that might aid in probing deeper... Shaken...as in “holy fuck this is amazing I am dumbfounded by this feeling & truth!! Everything makes wonderful sense! Miraculous!!!”...or shaken more true to the definition...’disturbed psychologically as if by a physical jolt or shock’...? Did that ‘experience’ involve a recognition of an underlying bond of all ‘things’, which is exceptionally intimate, inseparable....which may have previously been thought to be something one can hold or not hold, or find, or produce, such as from a relationship? Abnormal....to which the responses from others might be along the lines of “That is not a ‘normal’ level of happiness...I wanna feel that good!! What gives?!”...or more “I think you need help with these behaviors / actions / processing what you’re experiencing?” Does it ring true in some sense that the reason you said ‘ok’, even when you wanted to say ‘no’, is ultimately for how you feel? Perhaps in the sense, it’s just easier than dealing with the/her fallout, as in her getting angry, you guys arguing, engaging in a ‘power struggle’ of sorts, maybe ‘cutting off’ or getting ‘cut off’ from intimacy, be it emotional connection and or physical? If that does ring true even a little...can it be seen, or maybe deeply considered, that calm genuine ‘present’ communication about these matters can & would likely release some pent up feelings, maybe a resentment or two that was held in misunderstanding... bringing about some relief via expression and being heard, some airing out & letting go of perspectives which aren’t serving you or her... ultimately bringing you closer together? One ‘strategy’ that comes to mind for tomorrow (if it resonates)... a starting place of togetherness...to agree to think of the relationship as a third party. Something which you both contribute to, to keep it healthy, happy, active, fruitful...ever-going in the direction of what you both want to experience together. Sharing what each of you want to experience in this life, and what you want to experience together...being really open, sharing the dream in each of your hearts, experiencing the experience of that dream being expressed, verbalized, and heard...can be a marriage changing, and life changing, and love bringing experience. Maybe not. If your intention is to be with her...if what is paramount is how you feel, and how she feels...if that is the single point of focus from you...not being right, not ‘winning’, not correcting, etc...but potentially returning again & again to what is wanted...I have a hunch she might openly express something along the lines of “well, ya, of course I want to feel great all the time, of course I don’t want to battle it out & be arguing, butting heads, etc”. Ans also...maybe she will run away. But maybe that’s a short term, needed thing. Maybe she needs to begin to explore depth of herself, of you, of the relationship, and maybe it is triggering, and she needs to run away and process that. Tomorrow is always a fresh new opportunity. There is growth realized, new insight & perspective from the hindsight view. Maybe this happens a few more times, maybe it happens twenty time. Yet - where else will it lead to, other than focusing on feeling great, and letting go of what doesn’t? (Again, this line of questioning is in the vein of if what you want it being with her, and her & son). It’s connotational, up to each one of us, but spiritual to me means inspecting to discover what is real, actual, True. A process in which it is inevitable that all which does not resonate is effortlessly let go, and all which is dreamt, wanted, desired, fills in as this experience. In this perspective, she (nor anyone else) can ever be ‘more spiritual than you’. There is an interesting factor here imo in that you’re both referring to her as more spiritual, and yet may bolt at the notion of inspecting attachment to thoughts, enablement, codependency, processing emotional reactions. This does not sound like a yet realized willingness to inspect, and to feel. I’m not saying this to judge, but that it could be insightful for you...this sounds to me like someone avoiding feeling...which is suffering. Going back to the single pointed conversational focus on what each of you want, and what you want together...surely it is not avoiding feeling (suffering), but exploring, rejoicing in, celebrating feeling. I think that is a wonderfully open minded start. The shedding of thought attachment, belief, ‘knowing’. I think if the orientation is that feeling is paramount, and there is some inspection of what does not feel good for either of you, many new & very awesome perspectives will arise as to happiness, and what is possible. Could they even, really? If you’re living there, eventually you’ll move out...but they have not ‘lost’ you. If there is, say, a job opportunity a hundred miles away, and you pursue it and move there...have they ‘lost’ you? I believe the answer is no. I think ‘lose you’ equates more to ‘cutting off’, ‘disowning’, putting a stop to all communication with them, rejecting them, etc. The default position is that you can have your cake & eat it to. You can absolutely, freely, at your own discretion live & make choices in accordance with what you want. Why add the added perspectives, engagements, thoughts, conversations of ‘losing’ each other? People move, live their dream, and can stay in touch as well. Also, if they display behavior which is not in accordance with feeling, you can communicate this to them, and let them be with it. You being open, accepting, patient, understanding...does not equate to allowing anyone to treat you poorly. This can be pointed out to them, calmly, without emotional reaction, because it is in accordance with feeling. They might ‘run away’ too, so to speak...but everyone comes back around to wanting to feel great...and apologizing, forgiving, for dumb shit we do comes into play. It is the relief, the acceptance & understanding. It is not condoning or encouraging the repeating of such behaviors in relationships. I think if you scrutinize & inspect you’ll find they love you & you love them. I think what they don’t want boils down to some behaviors, some things that were said, the way some things were handled. Indeed. Been there a few hundred times myself lol. Will likely be there again soon! But I will then acknowledge it, express it be it to someone effected or on paper for myself to see, and then understand it...and focus, concentration, etc are again unobstructed, and the dream is manifesting, and good feeling is again present and abounds, much more so even than before the experience. Good feeling that is contagious, infectious, undeniable. Good feeling that builds dreams, that creates. We can not ‘beat up on ourselves’ for a past. I mean we can, but it is needless, pointless & fruitless suffering. The actuality, the reality is, we’re moving forward. There is no pause or rewind button on experience. So we must move forward. This means we learn new depths to things like forgiveness, understanding, self love, other love, one love. I do not mean or intend here to imply this equates to staying with anyone or not. We have to experience. That’s how we actually learn. When we let go of what doesn’t resonate (thoughts), doesn’t serve us, is not aligned with our source & our dream for our life, we are consciously creating. There is no better feeling or experience, and letting good is effortless. Thank you. I’m experiencing & learning too. I appreciate you.

@Gesundheit Infinite can not know finite.

Religion and confusion are not ‘things’ you can point to which ‘someone else has’. God isn’t a thing, such that it can be said ‘what God is’. Just like saying what a toaster is. One agrees or not, but it is never actually said what a toaster is, because it’s undefinable. The source of definitions appears to define and is undefinable. If everything is God there is no we, God, or consciousness. One would have to hold themself to be separate, to define. Use a pad of paper, try defining yourself, as an exercise. What is arrived at? If everything is God...there is no ‘everything’. If all the cars and house are legos...there aren’t cars & houses...there’s legos. If all definitions are legos...there aren’t actually any definitions....just legos...and this would include all definitions like & for legos. Not two. Not God. Not consciousness. Not distinction. Not external. Not entity. These are thoughts arising, the apparent nature of which, is duality, or twoness.

Are you really saying it’s like you’re sitting a room, chillin, and out of nowhere your parents concoct a story about losing you & their grandson? Where did they even get such a notion? Did you for example say I’m considering moving somewhere, etc? What did you say to them, to which this was their response? Attachment is to thoughts,, not things or people. Did you and her talk about attachment to thoughts, enablement, codependency, processing emotional reactions, etc? If you want your family, these are things you and her can understand & change in your relationship & household. Any discussion on the truth of love in relationship to thought attachment, codependency, etc, or on maybe talking with someone who can help you both understand? If you’re doing what you actually want by separating, I’m not suggesting otherwise, but you did make the thread, and you’ve mentioned there might be something you’re missing. These are signs the way these events are unfolding is not resonating with you & you are looking to understand why. Can you elaborate on what the ‘take over’ is / looks like / feels like? When you say “do what they expect”...what is that? What do you feel they expect? Does your wife, child, and parents all desire that you do not improve your life? Such as a change of source of income, housing, education, habits, healthier relationships, etc? How are they ‘against you’, or preventing you from doing what you want? Again, is it as simple as - you don’t want them in your life anymore? If this is the case, why is there the sentiment that they don’t want you ? Is that really a ‘sudden’ change on their part...nothing you said or did...somehow you had an awakening, and nobody wants you anymore? Tough question but, what is the “it” referred to? “I have reacted to their reactions with compassion and love” Long road, to what?