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If God could copy itself, then it would be a “thing” and therefore not God, because God is nothing. God is simply the “no-thing” that contains all things. Is there two empty spaces that contain the universe or one? The very question doesn’t even make sense.

You can know for certain that consciousness is infinite/without limit. This allows for infinite perspectives under a single higher awareness. The understanding that consciousness is not owned by a human being is what enlightenment is, philosophically pondering that my finite mind is all there is is not.

The truth is that right now our consciousness is finite. If you think it isn’t you haven’t experienced “infinite consciousness” lol. The only thing stopping one from accepting that is ego. @Someone here Because the underlying substance of God and it’s many deviations are the same, it is both one (at the deepest level, and many (on a surface level). Understanding that reality is multilayered in this way is fundamental to this work. Without it there is no awakening. I can be looked at as both a human being and a collection of atoms, can I not? It works in the same way. On the surface-seperate, at the core-one. But both are true, just on different levels.

Mmm yeah that does sound very worrisome if that is true, I’ve said this before that one’s relative reality is no different after awakening, the rules of the game remain the same. At least in this particular dimension, perhaps there’s one where you really can fart rainbows, not this one. ?

Consciousness is absolute, our bubbles are not, yet the fundamental substance of that bubble is the same. That might be a better way of framing it.

And that’s the moment you realise it’s just a word. It has no meaning. No concepts are true. Really this “divine solipsism” is just a conceptual framing of non-duality. Not only that but reality can be looked at from infinite different angles at different levels that are all true despite seeming contradictory. I am a human on one level, a collection of cells or atoms on another, empty space at a deeper level, perhaps a soul on another, a single organism as part of a larger collection of organisms on a planet, and further out the empty space that holds all things together in the universe; a perfect unity, and finally beyond that you have God. Dualistic manifestations are contained within a non-dual “whole”. Don’t worry if that flavour of teaching doesn’t resonate because it doesn’t for me either, you aren’t lacking any wokeness because of it lol.

You can’t remove the ego forever anyway if you’re walking through day to day life, anyone who thinks that is most definitely delusional. Reality is non-dual at the deepest level but that doesn’t deny the validity of the relative, dualistic manifestations that arise and appear on the surface as we currently experience. Ego is a necessary part of that. It is simply that the soul is “behind” that appearance you could say and is deeper than those things. The part of the psychological structure of ego that is distorting one’s perception and thus bad is the belief in its seperate-ness from the world around it. That sensation is useful in a day to day practical sense, but if one buys into it as the ultimate truth they are cutting themselves off from the world. There is a time and a place for seperate-ness and a time and place for dropping that, because enlightenment is a negative not a positive addition onto one’s experience. By dropping it you see things as they really are, and you could say that ego is a beautiful part of what makes up that infinite whole. So yes integration into our grounded human experience is necessary whether one likes it or not.

When entering “omniscience” which is a big picture perspective (the ultimate big picture perspective) you lose the smaller details in the process. Other finite minds would be one such small detail. How bacteria function in this particular plane of the dream would be another. The God that experiences itself through this particular finite lens does not need to know that stuff, maintaining some level of mystery is what keeps things interesting, in the same way that pain makes things more real. But this is fine because knowing other’s experience 100% or knowing how bacteria functions isn’t really what we truly want in the end (as fine as it is to explore those things) but to experience wholeness and a Truth that lasts eternally which is what the absolute is, or the “bigger picture”.

if it's edible it's undeniably trippy; full on closed eye visuals, feeling like you've entered a parallel cartoon replica of this world, ego deaths and oneness if one's mind is open to it and possibly had previous trips. Yoga on an edible in the sun is out of this world.

it definitely takes you to the void quite reliably; pretty insane, very out of body sometimes too. Extremely introspection with pretty insane ego deaths.

250ug gave me the white light, that’s all you need to know

Everybody experiences these things differently no doubt, DP involves a lot more than just dissociating from ego but also being separated from all of existence like it's "over there" so to speak and you're just watching it as a seperate observer. It's like with DP the void is there whilst the universe is "over there" , vs Enlightenment the void is like infinite empty space that contains everything, and understanding everything is contained within that births the sense of intimacy and connection, like the universe is inside you it's that intimate, vs the deep sense of separation that DP creates. DP creates a deep separation between form and formlessness, like the two have unplugged from each other, whilst in mystical states all distinctions between the two are lost. Connecting absolute and relative, you could say the small self is a part within the totality of the whole, and Enlightenment is resting in that wholeness which includes the small self, rather than killing one part to move to another. That paradigm is still somewhat dualistic. Of course in the beginning dissociating from the ego may be necessary, but later on the two can be integrated together which is my definition of "riding the ox".

Same, they are almost the polar opposite in some ways. Moving into oneness feels like melting into everything, DP/DR feels like you're sinking into yourself and everything is getting further away from you.

#462 as a male, #1 as a female Of course there will always be genetic, unfair advantages in sports, but it is a matter of DEGREES guys, and it is clear that the physical difference between a male athlete with the body composition that results from male puberty and a regular woman FAR exceeds what any logical person would consider acceptable; no matter how much hormone therapy the person goes through it will not erase the physical development that occurred when their body was naturally being pumped full of testosterone in their teenage years. IF, however a transgender male were to compete they would willingly be putting themselves at a disadvantage which is a very different scenario than willingly putting yourself at a monstrous advantage. Not to mention that most sports should have weight/height classes the way that UFC does, and if it doesn't (which is wrong) that is still no licence to continue adding to the unfairness that may occur in competitive sport. TLDR; this is fucking stupid and we all know it.

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eat some mushrooms

Yoga and breath work are pretty awesome for when meditation gets too boring/frustrating.

Lol ? the smell of condescension is simply unreal ?

No, only healing trauma will help (in your case but also in most cases). Beware of spiritual bypassing.

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it seems like the "insight" is extremely influenced by ego, at least when outlined in that way. "My mind" ain't the real ground. Not even "mind" in a universal sense is, despite certainly being an aspect.

Hahaha nice

“Unless you are actually looking at it” would still be more imagination, including the experience of a finite, localised POV. Any “something” in existence is nothing, with no thing to which it pertains to. The idea that what is held within one finite mind is all there is is bollocks. That finite POV holds no more reality than anything else.

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Gaslighting is the forum's Modus Operandi. Take a look at Richard Lang's (and Douglas Harding's) style of teaching; everybody is seen as capable of knowing their true nature and nobody is viewed as a "teacher" above others, there is absolutely no hierarchy at all. Everyone is equal to the point that the one who sees this sees everybody else as "awake" too. This type of attitude makes embodiment of the truth natural, easy and simple. This hierarchical enforcement of who's the most awake is purely ego based and only isolates more people, as it will continue to do so in the future. More and more people are leaving for this very reason, and it's a pretty justified one. This discussion seems pretty pointless at this stage though, nothing is going to change and young, impressionable depressed teenagers are going to continue to come to these spaces only to be confused, gaslit and left off worse than when they came, with no one taking responsibility for it. Opposing views about spirituality simply aren't respected on this forum, and is usually what opens the floodgates to more gaslighting, thus reinforcing group think as Adeptus has mentioned. Dogmatism in action. Yep, most likely the depressed teenagers I'm talking about. I would know because I was one of them!!!