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  3. Posted

    14 minutes ago, Dwarniel said:

    There's only so many hours in a day, and I work a lot...

    My last question came to me after my 30 day retreat. Is the vipassana after glow coming from the work itself, or are people just happy because the hell is finally over? Lmao. If I'm honest with myself, I have to say that I don't really know. 

     

    Thoughts? 

    Make an effort to be aware and centered as you are working. There is no excuse to not be aware. Of course it gets more difficult the more focus the work requires. But you can probably do micro-pauses here and there? Pretend you're gonna take a shit. That's 5-10 minutes of good practice right there.

    I believe most practioners are happy because it is over and they made it through. Especially new ones.

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    19 minutes ago, Western Buddha said:

    i see so many people here telling that its not working so well for them and that there are very strong side effects.

    what do you think?

    This is potent energy work. It can be extremely powerful stuff. I have done Kriya well over a year now and it has been great for me. 

    What I think? I think you should think for yourself. Either give it a try, commit to it wholeheartedly for a good period of time and see if it works for you. Or do something else. There are no guarantees.

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    1 hour ago, Western Buddha said:

    first big thanks for helping me out man.

    is this book written by the same authors that leo recommended in his book list?

    Glad I can help.

    No, it is a different author called Ennio Nimis. One of the authors on Leo's list recommends this author in his book and speaks highly of him and he is also friends with the other author on Leo's list. He has many many years of experience, is not dogmatic (imo), and just wants to release the knowledge he has accumilated over the years. He also answers mails if you have questions regarding your practice.

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    10 minutes ago, Western Buddha said:

    is it the same practice as leo recomended in his book list?

    by the way thanks man!

    It has all the same techniques basically. Though the big Kriya book on Leo's list probably has more, but most of them you don't need, imo. Don't get fooled because it free. It is very high quality. I recommend you read all 4 parts if you are serious about this.

    View it as a book that contains a variety of techniques. Try and experiment with a bunch of them for awhile and keep the ones you like and keeps you doing the practices. Don't be in a hurry. Though definitely always stimulate the root chakra first and obviously always do Kriya Pranayama. You will understand as you read the book.

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    50 minutes ago, Yog said:

    Hey guys. I am thinking of buying Leos book-list, just to get the Krya yoga books at this present time. Regardless of my unemployed a*s .So I have 2 important questions before I do.

    -Is the book available in digital (kindle,mobi), or do I have to order it physically .
    -Can the techniques be done in a silent way, as I am doing my spiritual practice at 5 am and people are sleeping ?  I don't want to be slapping the walls or breathe like an ox. Thanks :x

    In my post above I link to a book that is free by Ennio Nimis. It has all the info to get a good practice going. It is, imo, one of the best books on Kriya Yoga available.

    Some of the books on Leo's list are available on kindle.

    You don't have to disturb people while doing it.

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    2 hours ago, Western Buddha said:

    hey im completely new to this practice, which books should i read first? (i want the manual to be easy because im seeing al the messeges here and it looks very very complex!)

     

    thank you!

    Ennio Nimis has a free book on Kriya which is great. In the third pdf there is a great technique that you can follow. Not complicated. Since you will have no supervision it is also good because you will start with completely natural breath. So you won't stress your nervous system by mistake, which I believe a lot of newbies do by breathing incorrectly.

    http://www.kriyayogainfo.net/Eng_Downloads1.html

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    23 minutes ago, Western Buddha said:

    is it a good way to realese past trauma?

    should i keep meditating or switch to kriya?

    This is something you have to decide for yourself. But don't place all your bets on that it will heal your trauma.

    Gabor Mate was recently on Brand podcast. Was very interesting. He talks a lot about trauma. He also mentions Ayahuasca. Might be worth checking into for healing trauma. Or psychedelics in general. It won't automatically fix your issues, you will actually have to do some serious emotional work and have courage to face what is coming up.

     

  13. Posted

    22 minutes ago, Western Buddha said:

    which techniques should i try first?

    where can i find the explantions for them?

    Look into the mega-thread here on Kriya Yoga. Daniel Odier is a good author who has books on various different tantric techniques. Christopher Wallis is a scholar and practitioner of Tantric Shaivism. I'd recommend to check out their work to get a good overlook.

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    There is no such thing as "a better technique". What works and resonates with you might be completely useless for someone else and vice versa. Experiment with a lot of techniques and see what works for you. Tantra Yoga has a huge toolkit of techniques for this very reason. Because if you keep experimenting with a variety of techniques you will eventually find one that sticks with you. And then you can make modifications that suites you even better. Have fun with it and be creative.

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    18 hours ago, Tarzan said:

    Hey guys, I just finished my first 10-day vipassana retreat. First days were rough as I was going in quite raw, I hadn't meditated a while before that and was hoping to kickstart my meditation practice again. 

    I wanted to ask everyone who has attended the retreat and followed the technique how good is your progress with this technique. I'm not sure if I should follow it or use another technique. I have the kriya yoga book from Leo's book list but haven't yet begun reading it. I remember someone mentioning that you have to have developed your concentration skills before trying it out. I'm also familiar with the theoretical progress scheme of meditation (samatha and vipassana jhanas as described by Daniel Ingram in his book). Do you think its better to develop concentration (one-pointed concentration) by a separate technique at first to a high level and only then progress to insight practices? Or going straight for insight practice is fine, just letting concentration increase as you just push through distractions, mind-wanderings?

    @Tarzan Hey, read the threads started by @ardacigin for some good pointers regarding concentration. For you who has just started out, the book The Mind Illuminated by Culadasa might be right up your alley as it will give you instructions on how to optimally raise your concentration in the beginning.

    I started with Vipassana 10 day retreat aswell. If you resonate with the technique and feel like you want to do it, stick with it. It is a good technique, imo. Focus on concentration in the beginning as well. Like the anapana practice you were taught.

     

  16. Posted

    2 hours ago, ardacigin said:

    No. That is straight out false. It is a common misconception. The goal of the teaching is not to reach one-pointed concentration. That is a dead end. Stable attention and its development is a tool for awareness development. The advanced stages are more about awareness based practices than attention. The point is to develop strong (sensorily clear) metacognitive, introspective and extrospective awareness using stable attention and reach a state of mental proficiency capable of experiencing permanent insights and awakenings. 

    You don't divide your attention. Attention and awareness are different processes in sensory experience until they fuse into each other in stage 9-10. Until then, you will subjectively experience attention and awareness as separate processes. And they actually have neuroscientific reasons as to make this distinction let alone the meditation mastery this understanding brings.

    Introspective awareness is inner awareness of mental talk, sights, memories, intentions, emotions, and feelings. Extrospective awareness is outer awareness of sights, sounds and touch. 

    You use various techniques targeted at different things in TMI to improve the conscious power of both attention and awareness so that mindfulness gets deeper and deeper as you master each stage.

    There is a reason why a beginner meditator sits down to focus on the present moment and experiences little to no significant and deep experiences. When someone who is awake like Eckhart Tolle tells you to focus on the present moment, they are actually applying mindfulness at a MUCH deeper level than a newbie meditator. That is because the conscious power of attention and awareness in awake people are significantly heightened. They straight on experience psychedelic-like states effortlessly. 

    It is like the technical scale mastery of Mozart - Beethoven compared to the 'musician' who has started taking piano lessons 6 months ago. They both know the scales. But they can't apply them at the same depth and skill. 

     

     

    Thanks, very interesting stuff! I will dive deeper into the book.

  17. Posted

    10 hours ago, ardacigin said:

    That is great. I'm happy for you. I'm re-reading it myself these days to brush up on the fundamentals.

    Remember that to develop stable attention properly, you also need to expand the awareness as well. If you try to practice exclusive attention pre-stage 6, you'll fail and instead experience dullness and distractions. Always add in the awareness component (like body noting, scanning, gone technique etc.) while maintaining bright and stable concentration at the tip of nose.

    First, start with stable attention and when the mind starts to create dullness and distractions, start expanding introspective and extrospective awareness. 

    Good luck :) 

     

    Thanks! I have done a fair bit of scanning due to my Goenka retreats so that will probably be my go to technique. I am early in the book so I guess more will make sense when I go deeper in it. But it raises the question, why divide your attention like that? Isn't the goal to reach one-pointed concentration, so why divide it using more than one technique? To keep the mind busier? Also what do you mean with introspective and extrospective awareness?

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    Grammar

    Yeah. Regarding responsibility, I feel a lot of people fall into the trap of saying "fuck responsibilty and morals". It is an ego mechanism. It's basically lazy people who don't want to take any responsibility in life and don't want to do hard introspective work. So they hide behind the nihilistic approach, not aware they are just deluding themselves.

  21. Posted

    6 hours ago, cetus56 said:

    The trickling down of the nectar has been surrounded by mystery with many forcible techniques devised to 'milk the Heaven'… Thus Hatha Yogis used (and still do) cut the frenum to loosen up the tongue to reach the roof of the palette so as to activate the normally dormant gland.

    This is common in Kriya Yoga aswell. Kechari Mudra. Though you don't need to cut the frenum, there are techniques that will stretch and loosen up the "string". I keep re-falling in love with India on a daily basis. What a place, huh?

  25. Posted

    @ardacigin Hey. I've started reading Culadasa's book. Very good so far. One of those books you wished you read at the beginning of your path.

    I am going HARD on concentration right now. I also mix in Leo's concentration video. So I came up with the idea of using a vibration wrist clock. So you can set the timer for how many minutes you can focus and increase when you have mastered your set time. So you can use it out in public and work (and at home where there are no distractions of course) and when it's done it just vibrates on your arm without drawing attention. I recommend this for people. It makes it a lot of fun. I see great improvements already and you get used to being centered even in chaotic environments.