Greatnestwithin

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    Love this, and thanks for sharing your experience :)

    Is coaching overpriced?:  yes and no, and depends on your relationship to and with money and value. Ultimately, money is wrapped in all our deep traumas, sense of trust in ourselves. Which is why, hiring a good coach is scary, because there is no more excuses, and has you confront all the stuff that we hide and protect from (which is deeply spiritual in essence).
     

    I've personally paid coaches who, deep down, I thought I was better and more skillful than then. I also invested a lot of money on coaches who have helped me transformed my life in ways it would take me days to share. 

    And with my therapist too, it took me going through 3, to find the one I know can hold me and serve me in a way I feel most need.

    These days I charge 12k to work with me for a year. I Make 6 figures and work 15 hours/week.

    As a context, I used to be very shy, insecure, awkward and a teacher or early years earning 1,200 pounds back in the old days.

    And like, as an example, a client of mine went from 190k (working 50 hours per week) to 420k in a year, while having 12 weeks off, plus saving his marriage and creating way more intimacy, impact in his company, and freedom.

    So the money is worth it for as long as we create the results we are committed to having. Whether a coach charges 3k or 100k.


    But I've also done pro bono work with people who are very committed but couldn't afford me fees. Or I'd create something bespoken for the right people who aren't ready yet to commit to a big investment.


    In regard to this question: How do you know that you found a good coach?

    I'd say, personally, through talking to a bunch and feeling into it. Although I only trust coaches who have proven their value on what they do, have served me powerfully with no agenda and more importantly, are doing their own deep work VS just talking about it. Meaning, they too invest good money on their therapists, coaches, and education. 

    There is so much more to this industry and conversation. The problem with coaching is that it has a very low bar of entry and very high to actually have a thriving business. And with that comes a lot of people who call themselves coaches, who aren't qualified or gone through a rigorous training. 

    None of this is wrong, but it also damages the image and potency this work has to offer. And the impact all of this, is that most people, because they haven't worked with powerful coaches and created real results in their lives. They conclude that isn't worth it and it's best to try to coach themselves, which doesn't really work anyhow.

    Happy to share more from my experience shall that be of value.
     
    Love,

    David

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    I did my first ICF training back in 2017, in London, for 5k- it was a good foundation of coaching. Then I did an ontological one for 10k and another one for 5k. All of this without counting all the coaches I have hired.

    If you want to be a coach, you want to commit to play a long game and invest thousand and thousand of dollars in training and coaches.
    In US, Accomplishment coaching is one of the best and most rigorous  trainings there are out there.

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    15 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

    @Asia P You must be careful not to turn spirituality into a bypass or form of escape from managing your survival and life.

    If you struggle to get dressed, what good is your spirituality?

    Spirituality is good, but at your age you need to put a lot of time and energy into just mastering survival. Build a decent life for yourself. Don't just sit around hoping that your life will get great all by itself. It won't. You have to put work into it.

    Be careful about neglecting core areas of your life like family, relationships, career, building skills, sex, friendship, finances, diet, fitness, health, etc. You have to invest energy into all these in addition to whatever spiritual work you do.

    It's very hard to be happy if you neglect all those areas and only do spirituality. You can get yourself trapped that way.

    @Leo Gura what are you focusing on building in your life, these days?

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    @Verg0 Hello! What an amazing path you have chosen. The world needs this medicine.

    A bit from my own journey: 

    I did my ICF training back in 2018 - I started charging  right after I qualified. A good amount is 1,500 dollars for three months - this is a good amount that  most people can afford and calls them in to some level of commitment in their lives. As you continue practice, you'll enroll people in greater levels of commitment to work with you for 6 to 12 months. You can have a great business that makes six figures with a handful of clients.

    Please read this book: The prosperous coach by Rich Litvin.

    The way I have built my business is through serving my ass off - I was part of several networking clubs in my city, ton of workshops and use LinkedIn a lot.

    Eventually, my business has grown organically though referrals and word of mouth. Up to today, the first conventions I have with people is free of charge because I want them to have an experience with me and of what coaching can do for them. I'm always in an abundance of service and conversations.
     

    Over time, you can have a nice business that grows more organically, based on how solid your coaching will become, you'll get more referrals and clients will continue to renew with you.

    If you private message me, i happy to send you some PDF´s, resources that I created thought the years and have supported me greatly in all the things you mentioned, including creating clients.

    Love,

    David

    https://www.david-medina.com/

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-medina-leadership/

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    3 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

    @Inliytened1 There is an interesting wrinkle which may help explain some of the clashing we are having, and it is this:

    Since reality is a dream and imagination, you might be dreaming that psychedelics do not work in your dream world, and I may be dreaming that meditation does not work in my dream world. And we may not be able to un-dream these dreams any more than we can un-dream gravity.

    So be careful assuming that everyone is in the same dream as you.

    @Leo Gura have got any insights into why you wouldn't be able to un dream Gravity? 

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    1 minute ago, Leo Gura said:

    The reason I know that none of these enlightened people is seriously conscious is simply because if you were seriously conscious you would not be able to walk straight. 

    Just the fact that a spiritual person can walk down the street tells me he's in a very low state of consciousness.

    The consciousness I am talking about is so profound that you would be plastered on the floor crying for God to save you and give you your human sanity back.

    @Leo Gura man, most people don't even have a great life, living on purpose, feeling fulfiled by who they be and their contribution. Ralston, Rupert etc at the end of the day they do what they can, and it serves a purpose and people get glimpses, that too, matters. 

  20. Posted · Edited by Greatnestwithin

    10 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

    Consciousness is creating a total illusion, hallucinating Buddhism, meditation, enlightenment, what you guys refer to as "truth", and so on.

    The illusion is infinite. But you are not conscious of this yet. To truly Awaken, the entire illusion of human spiritual attainment must be deconstructed, which requires insane levels of intelligence. Without that intelligence the illusion will simply outsmart you and fool you into thinking that you're reached the end.

    See, when you reach your elightenment and tell yourself, "That's it. There can't possibly be anything else. No higher consciousness, that impossible." That just becomes another illusion which you are not conscious enough to break out of.

    You will try to deny all this, and I will just keep telling you that there is more consciousnesa that you're missing.

    When you say that you have reached "truth" and that all there is left is ro explore endless forms. No. That's not what I'm telling you. I'm not talking about the exploration of exotic endless forms. I am saying you fundamentally lack to consciousness necessary to understand reality and God.

    You literally are not fully aware of what God is. God is NOT whatever you call Truth. God is also not Nothing. God is also not some exotic form.

    @Leo Gura and then, the next day we wake up ... and back to taking a shit, doing business, paying bills etc... Such is life :) - So create a great life NOW, and enjoy yourself!

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    21 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

    Enlightenment is imagined by higher Consciousness.

    It's like two men stranded in the desert for days without water. One man asks the other, "Do you have water?" The other replies, "I have nothing." Then a few days later the man catches him taking a sip from a big bottle of water and he screams: "What?!!! You were drinking water all this time?!!! You told me you hand nothing!" The other man calmly replies, "I didn't want to entice you. What you call water I call nothing."

    @Leo Gura you mean that the experience of enlightenment is part of the dream? So what then do you refer to as to be awoken ? 

  25. Posted

    10 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

    After Consciousness frees itself of the human dream, it can dream anything it wants. But don't confuse that with "you" -- this ego -- having control over the process. God is in control.

    @Leo Gura given that God dreams to be finite to experience itself - does this mean there will always be new dreams, new universes, beings, laws but also suffering with it? Given that all dreams and characters are finite.