UpperMaster

Thank you very much for your perspective on this matter guys.

If I were to scale drunk levell she'd be a 7, like she definitely wasn't like falling on the floor or anything. She was pretty drunk and in super horny mood. Also, I didn't sleep with her or anything, I just made out with her. Like wouldn't sleep with her, but I thought making out was competley fine, especially because it was appropriated by our friend-group. Then the next day, she brings up how that may have been weird, I I lowkey feel like Im being accused of doing smth wrong, it feels shitty. Like I didn't have any bad intentions so it felt weird defending myself. Also how many drinks would be too many drinks?

@Valach yea bro this is so tricky I had no idea there was morals attached to it so I was js like yooo this girl wants to make out with me lets go. I mean doesn't Leo go do pick up sober in nightclubs, usually the girl has had drinks right? Im super interested on when he would go for it and when he would not.

I made out with a girl recently, she was drunk, I was sober. Met her through social circle. Her friends set me and her up. Her sister is super against me, main reason because I was sober and she was drunk, apparently thats like taking advantage or something. I had no idea this would be an issue, obviously my intentions were not to take advantage of her, I actually care about this girl. All my friends have slightly different things to say about this. Is it bad to get with a girl when she's drunk and your sober? When is it exploitative?

Is sharing emotions a turnoff, one of my friends has this as a number 1 rule. He says all women say they love when a man is emotional, but this is a HUGE trap. Is this true?

Interesting convo you guys

Looksmaxxing is very normalized in my generation. Even if my age people don't say it explicitly, the conversation has shifted from "what do I say to her", to "how to look better/get it better shape", or atleast I think so. The issue I am facing is I am scared to approach, I can get a girlfriend, but not the girl I want. I am inexperienced and hope I can find someone lol.

Damn best seller. So pick-up was super duper mainstream. Okay, that puts things into perspective. Like now it makes sense why looksmaxxing and blackpill became popular, it's like a rise of just another paradigm in the dating world. Before it was repill and pua, now its blackpill and looksmaxxing. Like it just mind blowing to be that these PUA guys have such different approach to the problem. And such a different way of view the world. Just the fact that if one came to the dating scene 15 years ago, they might have blamed a lot of my results on me just not being charasmatic and alpha enough. Now people more blame their looks. idk why its mind-blowing to me.

I am a Gen Zer, so I was just a kid when RSD and Mystery were popular. How big was PUA movement at its peak? PUA seemed to become very mainstream, with Mystery going on talk shows etc. How does it compare with today's looksmaxxing in terms of popularity? I mean, clavicular etc have become mad popular, everyone seems to be focusing on looks optimization now. Also, if PUA was last gen solution to dating and looksmaxxing is current gem solution to dating, what do you think will be the trend 15 years from now? I thought this would be an interesting thread to start..

Hey thanks for the reply. One thing, what do you mean by targeted area? I mean from context I understand its where you want hair to grow, but I was under the impression that you put it everywhere on your scalp no? Thanks

Yea see Im getting a lot of mix signals irl. like looks matter a lot, but I also see people that looked clapped with girlfriends. More clapped ppl dont have girlfriends tho. Im getting so much different experiences from what is said online, sometimes even from Leo videos.

I understand thanks

Hey. Thanks for your response. I am derma penning now once a week. Thank you for your share I wasn't aware of this. Have you tried minoxidil? If so are you taking oral or topical? What is your experience? Appreciate it again.

yea you guys are right, I mean maybe stupid question obviously you should max out looks. Maybe I should of made this thread about finasteride alone, because thats what I am curious about mainly.