Truth

Salt Lake City, UT

Im kinda with @guest on this one, I take notes on every video, but its purely focused on things I dont understand on top of journaling to understand it, so it wouldn't include everything he says.

I consider ego to be the antithesis of love, compassion and understanding. Which is why even with all it's back lashing and destructive ways, there's more than enough room for me to impart compassion, humility and autonomy to all it's intrusive qualities.

It looks as though you've missed the shadow work aspect of this process. Are you questioning that feeling? Where its coming from? What you think it could be? Journaling about it? Coming up with some explanations? Then finding solutions and understandings? To weed it out this is necessary. An amazing resource from here on the forum about shadow work

@Nahm yep :), when talking on here I feel like nothing more than a mirror to others and myself. People would find their answers if they just asked themselves self honestly and left their ego at the door. Not discounting tons of perspectives of course, which is one of the reasons that this forum can be valuable.

you're missing the point, I already said everything is as it should be including you and me. My judgements don't imply anything. I'm not squabbling about the tenable truths of reality itself. I'm confabulating about my notions of "suffering" and "Misfortunes" "I" see in "others" and the world, and "misunderstandings" I see in the world. See what I'm saying? As for being on the path, well, that's not something I can really communicate to you, anything I say would be an under emphasized apogee of the absolute infinitude of what's possible for the fulfillment of this entity. But I will say that you wouldn't be having motivation, drive, or confusion issues at all if you took this journey on for real. challenging our beliefs and ideals is just the beginning. For me now talking on this forum is nothing more than just an exponent exposing illusions haha.

You're too lost in existentialism. There are real world problems. War, crime, problems in education, terrorism, not even going into all the internal issues people have, there's a lot of issues that are incredibly overlooked, misunderstood and not even recognized or acknowledged as an issue at all. There's a huge difference in maintaining the status quo vs advancing society and ourselves. Yes, existentially, everything is perfect and just as it's meant to be. but when it comes to real world problems it sounds like you're using existential insights as an excuse to not do anything. You're right motivation is tricky. You just gotta look at yourself and be honest and ask -- do I really care to help others? have an impact on the world? live up to my highest possibilities in life? and if your answer no or even a "eh" then you gotta ask yourself again. then what do I REALLY care about honestly? and there you'll have a clue to your true motivations. and from what I see you just want to be comfortable and safe, which is fine. but you're limiting yourself massively, and I recommend you get on the self actualization journey and live up to the peak of human capability. "If you deliberately plan on being less than you are capable of being, then I warn you that you'll be unhappy for the rest of your life." - Abraham Maslow

@Will Its not about fixing the world. Its about helping the world live up to its absolute full potential. Aspiring to something greater than it currently is. Its hard to create that drive because most don't care about living up to their full potential. They just want to get all their problems fixed til their life is nice and comfortable. Why would you want to live up to your full potential when you've got everything you want right? See the difference there? It can be a real struggle to get motivated if you can't see what's possible for humanity or for yourself.

Knowing the full truth about ourselves, I don't just mean existentially, but literally, capacities, strengths, limits, weaknesses, true essence and personality. Being able to distinguish between the imaginary and the real in one's Self.

I'll give another perspective, another good reason is for their lack of acknowledgement of themselves being hurt. so instead of looking at themselves they lash out and project onto others. pointing out and vilifying all their flaws and things such as this creating a lot of self sabotaging behavior, negative karma and backfiring, making it even worse and worse over time.

People take it too seriously and make it complicated because a majority of people are coming from a deficiency of some kind, it's not exactly simple for the newbies to see the beauty in being, that takes time and effort or “work”. But they've gotta start somewhere, but yes taking a more wholehearted approach would be a lot less neurotic in one's incentive to meditate and will also help them go further in the long run.

Its a very good step to start getting that bullshit out of your mind. If you had what they had you'd be Happy. If you dont have what they have you can't be happy. Notice the interpretation going on there. This is turning you into the victim of your external circumstances. You're not taking full resposibility and letting others dictate your happiness and with that they've actually got you by the balls, check Leos video on victim mentality for more insights and understanding to start slowly weeding out this issue.

In the first vid he's talking about you turning inward. That you’re too focused outward on conditional happiness. Like trying to create a positive karma effect which is good and will get you all the external things you want, but neglects the filter in your mind, it neglects the fact that every single day of your life, at any moment you can choose to be happy. That option is always available if you're conscious of it. And when you're not conscious of it you brow beat yourself creating a lot of pain and suffering for yourself, especially if you're in the problem solving and negatively driven paradigm (negatively motivated) In the second video he’s talking about simply the beauty and absolute freedom of reality and existence itself, if you never just been struck by existence itself and your consciousness of it, you’re gonna miss this point he’s talking about. And communicating the freedom and beauty of reality is difficult even though it's right in front of you right now, so instead he tells you all the ways in which you’re not seeing it. Overall what I'll say about these are the law of attraction or positive thinking are just subsets, just a piece to get in place while on this journey. Nothing more than high quality techniques if you know how to use them.

Then just go with the external benefits, just be mindful of any toxic values that come up, if you haven't already heard about the toxic values, Leo will discuss them soon enough.

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@username I'd say my friendships are really healthy :), although I'm sure they'd be happier if I was more compelled to hang out with them/talk with them, but I'm pretty focused on the excursion of the self actualization path.

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I'll tell you facing those fears in solitude, putting full awareness on it, re-framing them and taking the lessons will undoubtedly grow you the most. you have every answer to your problems already inside you, you just gotta spend some time in solitude to dig for them. Kind of exactly like you did here.

Yeah you should definitely be spending most of your time doing meaningful things that align with your values. And when I say icing I just mostly mean sitting back and just being mostly. Like listening to music or watching an episode of your favorite show (not going on a full on marathon) or simply meditating, just sitting there and letting your thoughts spill out. And not everyone is really in the mood to make that connection, I find that when I can get in that mood to be playful and start to amuse myself I dont really care about any of that stuff. I just feel free. And that too is what I mean by having the cake down. The goal is that everything you do in your life is the icing on the cake no matter how mundane or pointless everything is. No ones forcing you to hang out with people, just be honest with yourself and them, you're after something bigger, just expect to be alone more. And I think you should really question that desire to connect with people. I bet its grounded in some type of fear of loneliness because if it wasn't this issue wouldn't be popping up for you, you'd drop your friends realativley easy and realize you don't need anyone or anything external to fulfill you, your still using conditional happiness, your still too focused outward, focusing more on them than yourself. Truly face loneliness. I really think that could grow you the most. I think you should watch Leos new video on loneliness. Should help give you more insight into this issue

Yes, if you embodied this value it benefits you by making you happy and fulfilled, it's meaningful to you, its not about what it can get you externally and more about what it can get you and how it can make you feel internally you would feel good doing and living up to this value, whatever it is and if you weren't living up to this value you would just feel off. If you really value success, progress, purpose or passion might be a good value to choose. You'll figure out your true authentic values through trial and error remember this is a long term journey your on, just make sure to do your best.

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Agreed its a really good video this video has really good correlations with this idea of "Radically Turning Inward" that Leo constantly stresses. All your answers to your problems are within you, including your happiness. Its all found, fixed and cultivated from the inside out. An amazing principle that I haven't been fully appreciating until just recently.

all those pleasures and socializing is just icing on the cake. besides that it's just a distraction from doing the inner work you gotta be doing. It feels superficial and worthless because it is. you pursue deeper connections because they're meaningful, have purpose, have value and that creates mutual benefits between two people and without that you mope, and label things as petty, superficial and worthless because it's true! and you choose to wallow in your own self pity. Don't be surprised when you chase the superficial stuff and find that it's not fulfilling you or finding out it's exactly that, superficial. You can't even enjoy the icing because you got the cake so shitty. Get the foundation down, all the inner work you gotta be doing and you'll find that the icing -- socializing, cracking jokes, playing cards and being playful is not worthless or superficial but actually the spice of life, literally.

I want to help you get to the root of your issue here. “There is nothing either good or bad but thinking makes it so” - Shakespeare A meaningful life/reality vs a pointless life/reality is truly all up to interpretation. Have you realized for something to have meaning or substance you have to point at it and tell yourself that it has meaning/significance or no meaning and no significance? What I mean by this is you are supplying the meaninglessness just as much as you supply the meaningful. It’s just as equally valid to say something has meaning just as it’s equally valid to say something is meaningless because the mind blowing insight you should be having from that is reality is absolutely free. Free to be anything that it can be. Reality is like an open space for meaning and meaninglessness/pointlessness to exist literally. Reality is Absolute Freedom. The freeness is outside of everything else. Paradoxically that’s the point. Because to say something has no POINT is the point that signifies meaning. Can you read between the lines of what I’m saying? To say something is meaningless/pointless or meaningful is only partially the truth of what teachers including Leo are trying to make you aware of. What they are trying to make you aware of is The Absolute. Absolute Freedom. Absolute Infinity. Absolute Detachment. Please try and grasp the significance of what Absolute Freedom Is. Reality has a higher order truth at play here that you’re missing. Meaning refers to a point. Meaninglessness refers to not the point which reality contains both of. It’s absolutely free and that’s what everyone is talking about. Meaninglessness is everything else that normally one would consider to have no significance → The open nothing, the free reality, the Absolute Freedom. That is what’s meaningless! Freedom! Debating to yourself about what’s meaningless and meaningful you’re just debating about what exists to have meaning and what does not exist to have meaning when the truth is BOTH are the case! Meaning is something you can point at, meaningless is something you can’t point at and the absolute freedom contains everything for both to be true. The most meaningful and meaningless beautiful profound, pointless insight you can have about reality is Absolute Freedom. That’s what existence is about. You’re completely free! But sadly nihilism has got you by the balls because you don’t see the big picture. Can’t you see how your debating about the meaningless of things in turn gives them meaning. How paradoxical. Can’t you see how free you are?