SeaMonster

I also experienced 1, 3 and 4 and not 2. It seems more of an intellectual realization than a state of consciousness.

"No self" as people pleasing = spiritual bypassing.

People believe that the ego is a source of their problems/suffering. This is the typical spiritual teaching, and is true with some caveats, such as that surrendering the ego doesn't automatically solve your problems but merely eliminates a weighty obstacle to solving them.

I've never had a problem driving in different states of consciousness or while dissociated. It's not the state itself but likely the emotional reaction to finding yourself in an unfamiliar state which makes it seems like it's dangerous to drive. I assume different personality types react differently as well (I tend to be less emotional and more cerebral.) In short, you're just not used to it, but there's nothing dangerous about driving in that state if you're used to it.

What are your "ethical reasons" for not having a child?

I mean, it becomes the new normal very quickly. That's kinda the point -- shifts in consciousness are like waking from a sleep, you don't go around thinking how abnormal it is not to be asleep.

It's a nice piece of CCP propaganda, and it has some truths in it, however it stretches them greatly. Let's talk about China's one child policy and the damage that authoritarian one party rule can do to a country. Sure, you can simply socially engineer the hell out of your society, but does it mean your ham-handed decisions aren't going to have potentially disastrous unintended consequences, such as a serious male-female imbalance as well as likely irreversible population decline that would otherwise not have been as steep? What about the insane policies of empty real estate as a form of investment that is, in essence, the largest pyramid scheme in history -- the biggest bubble in history about to pop? So while hiding behind the cloak of the public good, you've just created serious issues for your people. I'm not even mentioning the corruption and oppression in that system. Just that there is no elite that is so wise that it's not going to fuck up big time because it knows what's best for its people without proper feedback mechanisms. Let's see where China is in ten years.

Realize that you can't control what other people do. They may be loyal or fickle. Thus, don't build your life around one person. Build your life as you envision it and let other things be secondary or subsidiary. Don't be sad that this happened, because you can think of it as actually having liberated you to focus on yourself and your goals, which is a blessing in disguise.

Think of it as a feedback loop or vicious cycle. The self-image creates an undesirable result...which reinforces the self-image...which creates another undesirable result...etc. Moreover, the self-image has to do with unconscious beliefs, so it is the unconscious mind that has to be reprogrammed to break the cycle.

Well, people don't want radical social engineering. This has nothing to do with "level of consciousness," (unless you believe the commies had higher consciousness or something.) It's more like a bunch of ideologues who aren't really smarter or wiser than anyone, but believe a society should be organized a certain way. So even if a person is clean, if he wants policies most people find oppressive or intrusive, economically and socially, that's not going to meet with approval.

Delusional is not the right word to use in this context. If I believe I can fly if I flap my arms really hard, and try it and faceplant, clearly that's delusional. If I believe in my ability to get something done or achieve something, and I'm able to pull it off (or palpably come close at least), then it's clearly not delusional. Confidence is not necessarily delusional. It can be based on an accurate assessment of one's abilities and aptitude. The fundamental test of whether a belief is delusional is whether you can manifest the reality corresponding to that belief. If you never attempt to manifest reality based on a belief or try it and not even come close, then it could be or is a delusional belief.

That's pretty unfair, Leo. You can say the same thing about a thousand other things in the past, like "stop wasting so much energy inventing indoor plumbing." The two realms (of spiritual awakening and material progress) are not necessarily in conflict.

It's a legitimate question that can't easily be brushed off with a "turn on, tune in, drop out" type philosophy or bringing Spiral Dynamics into it. Because a lot of that stuff is simply fear that you have nothing to contribute to the world, or are not attractive, or any bunch of other neuroses. Besides, even if the mainstream culture is so bad, there are alternative cultures to participate in. We're talking about spiritual bypassing on the other thread, and these attitudes very easily play into that issue.

Certain psychedelics are really good for that type of work, but you have to focus your intention on finding them.

Dude, kindly stay in your lane, you have no idea what someone is or isn't experiencing or has experienced. If you're in love with your special language for describing these phenomena, realize that it's not the only way to do so.

That's the point -- to remove all crutches and let go.

Set up by whom and consisting of whom? And why would any owner of Twitter agree to some kind of WWII type board on a permanent basis? There has to be federal legislation passed that creates such a board for it to have any legitimacy, and such legislation would not be passed or would not withstand legal scrutiny if it did. The issue of fairness arises no matter who is in charge of being fair. At the very least one can have clear and simple rules, less room for arbitrary decisions and a decision process open to the public. This will go a long way towards solving it.

From your description you're very close to a nondual awakening for sure. It sounds pretty solid, and you also have a pretty good attitude about the whole situation. So I wouldn't worry about trying to understand higher states, because whatever you're doing seems to be working. It's all about surrendering this idea of "I" as just another thought that you can discard. Edit: Let me rephrase that better - whatever your current conception of "I" is, treat it as another idea to be discarded, and you do this until there is no conception of "I." This may go through different states, from the separate self I through the infinite cosmic "I" etc. That's the basic journey.

I think this is called "claiming the moral high ground." If you simply claim you're on the side of The Good, then of course any collateral damage becomes justifiable (i.e. "you can't break an omelet without making eggs.") This is a common motif in witchhunts and moral panics throughout history.

This isn't really anything new and this suggestion that Zoomers are somehow unique in this regard is either journalistic ignorance or deliberate narrative humping. Gen Xers were said to have similar attitudes -- you can watch movies like Reality Bites with Ethan Hawke and Winona Ryder from 1994. They were the "slackers." And some of them went to found start-ups or got involved in web 1.0 in the 1990s, to escape the corporate world. And before that you had hippies/Boomers. (Oh, and I forgot about punks in between/late Boomers.)

It depends how granular you want to make it and where you begin. But starting at stable "non-doer" let's say 5 stages with the 5th being the complete dissolution of the thought "I" or unity consciousness. Non-doer is like suddenly there is no separate self center -- but it's a bubble of localized consciousness where the center used to be. Then the localized bubble expands indefinitely, i.e. cosmic consciousness, e.g.

You have to simultaneously do psychotherapeutic work and spiritual work and not treat spiritual work as somehow superior (because it isn't.) Spiritual seeking is fundamentally spiritual bypassing. You can't be like "oh, getting enlightened will automatically solve all my problems." At best, it will make it easier to work on them.

There is no doer but it's sporadic? If that's the case, you're close to a nondual awakening. "No doer" has to become permanent to be in the "first stage."

Aren't you directing judgment towards those people? "Let's judge the judgmental, and that's perfectly ok and I'm not being judgmental" is not a logic I can get behind -- too much spiritual ego. Which is why I don't claim not to judge.

Polls don't necessarily have a lot of meaning because the people being polled aren't necessarily told all the implications stemming from a certain policy. E.g. "Do you think there should be universal free college?" vs. "Do you think there should be universal free college and we pass a 20% value added tax to pay for it?" People like free shit in a fantasy world where such a thing is possible, they don't like paying out the ass for free shit in taxes. So the point is mostly to attempt to bluff at there being more support for a policy than there actually is. The only thing that matters in politics is how the actual vote goes. Polls and news stories are mostly noise.