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    2 hours ago, Preety_India said:

    Kinda sad realization. Because I suck at connecting with people in the real world due to social anxiety and most people are on their phones anyway. 

     

    If it helps to know, that's a widespread social problem now. Connecting through text on phones rather than in person dialogue. Its all done in your/their head.

    I dislike admitting getting older but when I was growing up interacting socially was the norm. Downsides were it was very much based on cliques, and I remember more physical altercations because of the social interaction, but other than those two issues, things were not extended out over time. Feelings were less likely to be left unresolved or at least unacted upon. It all happened in the moment and engaged much more of life, much more of what we are. There is no substitute for being part of a supportive group in person. Anxiety itself is lessened by a healthy collective experiece, they'd have your back and you'd have theirs. 

    I am an adequate writer that enjoys living partially from the mind's perspective, but I can't tell you how much I miss the feeling of those days and the energy within group activities experienced in person. Maybe I needed this lifetime to learn the value of that in detail and what I suffered through living in a state of self imposed solitary confinement.

    BTW there is nothing wrong with being anxious, I was a wreck at one time, and I started feeling better when I reminded myself of that every time it came up. It stops anxiety stacking on top of anxiety at least. You'll find people that don't care how anxious you are if you take the time to look locally. 

  3. Posted · Edited by BlueOak

     @Fearless_Bum

    Sometimes I enjoy working alone, sometimes I look for answers or help from others. I find neither approach wrong, just like I see value/flaws in many models or interactions.

    This model has allowed me to reflect on who I am and while I don't agree with the premise fully that the way society has developed over the millenia is the perfect method of mapping the modern experience of personal or spiritual growth, it is one method of analysing life and our psychology or spirituality.

    During that I have found I lack in blue and green. Collectivism generally. Blue I would imagine was jordan peterson and over the years I have resisted ever listening to the man so the last couple of days I did. I find myself wondering if my next job should be in a more structured or orderly role to experience it more, as that is something I naturally pull away from. I also find the collective aspects of green ideas and concepts somewhat hard to relate to, and so I asked for a teacher that well represented green, I suspect I have also rejected them out of hand. Orange I listened to tony robbins in my youth for example so I could name him as a teacher.
     

  5. Posted · Edited by BlueOak

    Could anyone name a spiritual or practically related teacher for each color on this chart we are referencing.

    I have realised what I am seeking, what much of this life has been about, and its to go over each of the states of consciousness, to fill in the holes in my understanding. So any you can recommend would be of great use to me and perhaps others seeking information out.

    Thank you.

  6. Posted · Edited by BlueOak

    Sincerely thank you all for being here :) I have realised what I needed. Thanks to you.
    I inwardly sought to feel more a few days ago, and to experience more empathy, this is what's happening.

    @mandyjw

    This is perhaps why thinking is eventually seperated as meditation progresses. Thank you. By thinking continuously I don't have to feel or understand, which is another method of avoidance.

    @Nahm

    Yes. Its more of a physical reaction and condition that occurs, if i am carrying out a meditative practice and then I get into an intense argument with someone I feel it a lot more afterwards physically. Like a pressure headache.

    @Tim Ho

    Very basic. The last few days I just sat down and meditated, I just cross my legs, palms up, back straight, tongue to the roof of my mouth, press my fingers together, and what happens happens. Sometimes all there is, is space. Othertimes I gain an understanding. Sometimes I would like an answer from my subconscious/spirit. Sometimes I focus on areas of pain within my body but that tends to happen naturally anyway, that pain feels warmth or relief. Othertimes I ask for something from myself like more empathy and I spend some time with those thoughts on what comes up. This thread and my argument was likely a result of me seeking the abilty to feel more, and its only as I type this I realise that's what is happening.

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    The last few  days I meditated for the first time(s) in several years. Today I had a brief intense argument. I now have a mild headache. In the past it has been much more intense depending on the state.

    When I don't meditate I don't get headaches if I argue with people or enter a stressful situation. 

    When I do meditate the crown of my head and my temples are prone to getting headaches. 

    Is there any way around this apart from the obvious answer, control, understanding addressing what came up. I am asking about the physical side of it. Is meditation always prone to making people more suseptible to headaches when emotions are more intense. I realise meditation can itself calm stressful situations but my environment and myself are not capable of remaining calm at all times.

     

  8. Posted · Edited by BlueOak

    Maybe we or I see what we don't like and concentrate on that more than is necessary, which skews our bias. Its very easy over an internet forum to only see flat words and no emotion or context behind them. Which means the response can be sharp, especially when it triggers emotion and tries to funnel understanding into text. I can't feel what you are trying to convey to me when you reply. I can only think, orange, rational, from the text sent.

    Voice helps bring context as does seeing the person talk, and even more being with them or knowing what is going on around them. If I heard your voice or knew you, your community and your backstory I would much more easily demonstrate green to you.

    On an aside, the internet initially was designed purely from a orange perspective by orange thinkers. Forum software designed in a green way might look and operate differently.