BlueOak

I love these topics as they expand awareness about what alien intelligence would be; growing people's awareness from a simple humanoid alien concept that looks like us with blue, green, or grey skin; through to intelligence so 'alien' to ours that we can't perceive it effectively anyway, only in shards or metaphorical echoes. I see metaphors everywhere if I choose to look at them. My cluttered desk is a metaphor for distractions; my leftover musical equipment, a metaphor for failed creative pursuits; my plain walls are a metaphor for boredom; the 15 tabs on my browser are a metaphor for split attention; and the noise of birds through a shuttered window is a metaphor for things I love to hear but shut out. All of this is happening at the same moment in my reality as I type this. Is that what the hypermind is like? where you perceive 20 different strands of interconnected communication you are arranging for your reality at the same time?

@Bobby_2021 https://www.cfr.org/article/how-much-aid-has-us-sent-ukraine-here-are-six-charts Roughly half of which is not going to the military. By February 2024. 46 billion dollars went in military aid Do you want to know how much of the US military budget 46 billion is over two years? https://www.barrons.com/news/us-congress-passes-huge-886-bn-defense-budget-for-2024-823a5dcb The US military budget in 2024 was $886 x 2 years = 1772 Billion That is roughly 2 and half percent of US defense spending, give or take. 2% defense spending is worth it to reduce the Russian threat over time. I know you don't believe this is happening, but others obviously can see it happening directly. I can track it happening. The US spends a hell of a lot more than this currently maintaining security in the east of Europe, for them it's a financial no-brainer. Accelerate Russia's population crisis, and take away its USSR stockpiles, then it is half the threat it was conventionally to the region I understand you don't accept the pattern of wars, or Putin's words about wanting to restore a Greater Russia. So you don't see this as real. Others do. Others have experienced this cyclic Russian growth many times in their countries. What you should minimally accept is the US makes decisions based on profits, almost exclusively. Neutering Russia is a way to cut spending in that region long term. While yes giving loans and selling weapons for $$$ at the same time.*By the way EVERYONE is buying weapons not just Ukraine, America's arms industry is filling backorders for the whole continent and beyond.

A hypermind is multiple metaphors happening at once? *This is what happens all day but it seems a more perceived, clear representation of it.

They cannot recreate the benefits of globalism with half the globe.

1, There were no Nazi groups in power in Ukraine, so this is a fantasy. The few hundred azov were made into a national guard unit before the war started. Putin has created more far-right sentiment in both countries and possibly decades of violence and hatred to follow in the occupied regions. Should I list the extremist groups in Russia that make up Putin's base? 2, There are more weapons than ever in Ukraine, so this is a failure. 3, This is more likely than ever. It is one way to guarantee he doesn't fight a 9th or 10th war to rebuild the USSR. Previously, it was impossible due to the occupation of Crimea and people not wanting a war with Russia.

Yeah, it leaves a bad taste to argue about it. Morally, there is almost no difference, it's lives being lost, and intent. Functionally, Genocide, or the starvation of Gaza is how it is achieved, not through the callous slaughtering of individuals in the streets, which is a war crime. The intent of Israel as a population is what's important to recognize and try to see through all the mess, some want hostages back, very few want peace, some want Hamas destroyed, and some want the entire region wiped, some want a wider war with Iran. Israel operates out of fear of the surrounding countries, and that fear has led the army to declare all Palestinians Hamas. So the population is 'the enemy'. In that scenario, yes, genocide is the appropriate term. It's like what was happening in Ukraine at the worst of it, where the Russian army realized people didn't want them there and did some horrific acts to civilians. This is the east Turkestan region China has occupied that I was referring to earlier. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Uyghurs_in_China

Correct. *With the stipulation, it's an ethnic cleansing. Which isn't much better for anyone involved, but if you are quoting me I need to be specific. Ditto Russia in the east of Ukraine. Ditto China in Tibet, I was going to post East Turkistan too but that's a genocide.

I will repeat my answer in a shorter form: Right-wing governments require an opponent, they require an enemy. They need to think of themselves as heroes. They cannot accept or process the opposite of this because it breaks their worldview, and their ability to remain in power. All the countries you just named have right-wing governments: Germany: https://www.politicalcompass.org/germany2021 USA: https://www.politicalcompass.org/uselection2020 France: https://www.politicalcompass.org/france2022 Netherlands, You'll have to settle for articles here: Example 1 | Example 2 You'll struggle to name a country that doesn't have a far-right government. People don't even realize it. *Thank you for getting closer to the point though. It's much better than these people are bad, these people are good. That's just the same old cycle of uselessness.

Exactly Correct. Animals, after experiencing a shock or trauma, shake, bark, roar, jump around, and get it out of their system. Humans are conditioned to behave politely and bottle it up, keeping it in the nervous system. A dog, when abused for years, will do the same and be a shaking mess; that's a visual image of a human who has been through too much.

If you want something, getting together with people who don't have it is not going to help. Many humans are a direct reflection of the expectations of their peer group. There is nobody to learn from in these communities, no role model, and nobody to take advice on success from. So in this scenario, these groups would be the places to avoid if you wanted sex, companionship, or anything meaningful with another person.

Wishing you good luck.

@Bobby_2021 Offers were made to Russia of Ukrainian neutrality at the very start. Russia refused them. This is a fact, you can say it wasn't worded with flowers and bells on, or you don't trust the West. Guess what? We don't trust Putin and BRICS either. It has been a decade of BRICS lies, espionage, threats, and meddling in elections. (Hundreds of years for the East of Europe). Ukraine already couldn't enter NATO while Russia occupied Crimea, and several member states pre-war didn't want them, that is also a fact. Russia created militias in the Donbas, then flooded them with manpower, and weapons to cause problems in the regions. Like they've done in Moldova, like they are trying to do with immigrants in Europe and people fear happening in Estonia. These are facts. Nobody disputes that those militias were funded and armed by Russia, that's why they are now in the Russian army. Again, you keep pushing and belittling Europe. Again, you haven't learned from watching people do that to Russia. Again, you dismiss the region and so miss the entire war itself. You ignore that the US didn't want to send aid and that Europe is rearming. You call for something that can't be accepted because you are not even looking at where it is going on. How is India? Is the CCP governing you well? What's that? China isn't running your country, oh. They are the major economy in BRICS, and are the major military power, dwarfing Russia and India's capabilities. In your analogy, Russia and India don't exist either, only China and America. Now have a million people repeat that propaganda to your country that it has no say in international affairs, like they did to Russia. Then we get the reaction that's happening. Again, when Europe uses that military, you'll fall over to criticize them, but when it's your ally, it's fine—utter hypocrisy. @Karmadhi War is hell, and the people who want it and use it to further their ends are deeply rooted in fear or a form of psychosis. They inflict generational trauma that we all have to live with and reincarnate into. Apply that to everything you just said, and you can understand why I criticize Iran, Israel, China, America, my own UK government, and Russia. It doesn't help, because morality is useless in survival scenarios, even explaining the cycle or fallout from the international order is useless. People are in fear and are more reactionary than I've ever seen them. They are hell-bent on ripping the international order down, then give me a surprised face at the consequences. 15 years ago, I predicted all these wars, when the entire world started to shift to the far right, and nobody wanted to hear it. Still, nobody wants to hear it. All the far-right government of each country wants to do is find an enemy and call them the bad guys, that's the logic they operate on. They require an enemy to sustain their far-right ideologies, and their leaders use war and violence to stay in power. - This is the macro reason for all these wars, alongside money and ego. As more of Europe's far-right realize they can make BRICS and Russia out to be their opponent, gaining political capital, things will get worse. As Russia does to Europe to maintain power, and BRICS do to America generally to gain political capital. That's all that's needed for a wider war. - It will be hastened by people calling them weak.

It's fairly important for Europe's future that Trump loses. So I wish you luck. It's probably my first election where I won't be hitting the liberals as hard as I usually do. Maybe I'll go get shadow banned from a few more conservative outlets, while I drop some things to fry their brains. If you are involved on the ground, all the best. NB If you are on the ground, make sure to make a big deal of how a criminal is running for office, and to play on the republican sense of justice. They'll hate it.

Overall, Russia seemed to range from blue to red, depending on the province. Pre-war Ukraine seemed orange to blue; it was modernizing more toward joining the EU, but it had some distance to go. The EU mostly sits in orange, with some green and blue. The churches were prominent in both, but democracy was starting up in Ukraine, and it was starting to receive investment. It is hard to judge how awareness might drop collectively during the war, but we can say it is likely while survival or killing is the focus, and trauma builds within the collective psyche. People tell me there are sometimes breakthroughs in conflict, but my experience is that this is an exception rather than the norm. It's the same with people (because countries are people), sometimes they change, but mostly they don't.

@Karmadhi Right at the start, Ukraine offered neutrality to Russia, but they refused it. https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-offers-neutrality-exchange-nato-style-security-guarantees-russia-talks-2022-03-29/ https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/30/ukraine-offer-neutrality-meaning-constitution-russia-what-does-neutral-status-country-mean-how-would-it-work If Russia gave up the land they've stolen, and Ukraine didn't join NATO, then there would be peace in your scenario. Ukraine can't join anyway while Russia occupies Crimea, several countries didn't want them in NATO before the war. Now it's different, they have more support. Russia (and I mean the people) will not give up the land so the point is mute now. It's about the expansion of a greater Russia. Putin has said that's his goal. He's fought 8 wars to do so and formed a breakaway republic in Moldova, ready for the 9th. People arguing that point are arguing against Putin's own words and his constant barrage of state TV material. Estonia has a Russian population and is vulnerable to the same breakaway republic. The top video in the three I've just listed highlights the scenario those in Europe are worried about. People can disagree of course, but dismissing other countries' points of view because they don't agree with their own, is half of how all this mess started.

Yes, well put. An alternate way to look at it: Too good would be, spending time in nature, caring for it, and appreciating it. Ditto your food, home, community, etc. What we have now is unbalanced. Our values are not in alignment with sustainability, so we don't sustain and take care of ourselves. We burn out, we have depression, reoccurring relationship problems, weight problems, dietary problems, musculoskeletal problems, and mental or physical illnesses. I see all this in the macro too, families not having kids, societies breaking apart, social unrest, and unnecessary national or personal debt to name a few.

So you all understand, this is a common theme here in Europe to think about, not a one-off video I happened upon. I do not vouch for the quality of any of these compared to the previous video, which I considered a reasonable quality. These are to demonstrate that the war is being discussed and planned for if it happens.

People won't sit back and play the game of what if against an aggressive dictator. The longer it takes Russia to recover from these wars, the better it is for the rest of Europe. That's precisely why we are trying to get aid to Ukraine. People can put moral things on top of it to make themselves feel better, but everything humanity does is self-serving. Putin isn't that smart, he's got some intelligence, sure, but he hamstrings himself by killing anyone who doesn't say yes to him. I argue with you in this thread but I don't for one second think I am more intelligent without your input. Do you understand? If I were in power, I'd want you and Bobby in my ear checking my bias, to come to a better decision. I will repeat: This is the 8th war to rebuild or control former USSR territories. Moldova is an almost guaranteed 9th. The Baltics would be a calculation, is NATO going to respond with enough force to stop me? Already knowing that the Suwałki Gap gap could not be held, war games showed that even with American assistance, Russia would cut off and siege the Baltics, overrunning them (let alone without America). This is why those countries are creating so many bunkers to slow the Russians down, and Poland is restoring a large armored core. - They believe there is a chance they will be invaded as it has happened so many times before. Germany and the UK are moving troops to the region because they believe the threat is real. Everyone recognizes Trump wants to pull out of NATO, so the Europeans are moving to fill the gap and push back against Russia. There are many reasons for a Russian invasion that I keep talking about, the Russian population crisis, needing a shorter border, reforming what Putin saw as the greatest Russian loss (the USSR territories), the one China, and one Russia principal that is getting all the Russians around the world into one nation. Russia is led by Putin, but he still must satisfy the hatred of the 'other' in Russian people. An ideology that he's cultivated to keep himself in power, and the strong nationalist population core that all dictators require to stay in power. Russia is fascist and it requires perpetual war to sustain that ideology. Distracting people from economic misfortune is often a reason people go to war. - Then there are trade routes, pushing influence outward, connecting to Kaliningrad, getting access to ports, etc. Europe will show its Europe, with 44 different voices wanting 44 different things. It will always show this. Expansionist authoritarian powers are seeking to test what they can take from that.

The video agreed with me, that NATO might not launch nukes to defend one country. I think it's probable. Think of the calculation: do we end the planet, or send in conventional forces? Even more likely with Trump in office, and his desire to pull out of NATO. Slovakia even said they would not send troops to defend another NATO country under attack, and Bulgaria is unlikely to. There will be countries that simply do not, especially without American support. You overestimate a NATO response to defend Poland or the Baltics. Especially more nationalist governments. Thankfully these eastern regions, and some others are preparing themselves for this pattern of events.

I agree Putin has adjusted his calculations, in time and effort, not ambition or the underlying reasons such as: his population crisis, needing a shorter border, or wanting the gas connections/supplies into Europe; hindering Turkey's growth in the Black Sea region, and Putin's imperialistic ego, or zealous fascist support requiring war. Because it hasn't stopped Putin from fighting these wars, doubling down, expanding, or mentioning Moldova, Poland, and the Baltics in his plans. Russia cultivates fear and uses it as a weapon. So don't be surprised when its successful. European states serious about the Russian threat are moving to a 3% budget. With some considering 4%. The Era of peace in Europe came about because of the 2nd World War devastation and death toll, with treaties such as NATO that said we wouldn't fight each other again. Then America became the guarantor of democracy so we didn't need to fight anymore, it was a period of stability and peace for us. Because Russia is not in NATO, we are fighting in Europe again, if they were, we would not be fighting them. If people come back in boxes, it initially leads to anger, hatred, and war. Rarely it leads to a desire for peace, but only when enough suffering is experienced. Yes, Europe, and certainly all NATO allies combined, could match the US military if they dedicated enough of their GDP. Then they'd be more proactive in using it to further their aims. Then you'd say oh, those aggressive Europeans! People don't spend all that effort, money, political, institutional, and cultural capital on something to receive nothing back. Russia is a regional power. All the numbers indicate it. Elevating it above that is why they are overreaching and continue to do so.

I've backed it up with many examples of why these wars were fought. You don't agree with them, but ignoring that others do is your main flaw. I can acknowledge Russia's concerns, even if I don't agree with them, you cannot do the opposite. I will repeat, for the 1000th time now, this region has been engaged in hostilities for centuries. We had a period of peace, thanks entirely to Europe coming together with America and making peace here. It's not naturally like that otherwise. You are advocating for WW3. That is the alternative. We cannot match the US military budget at present, though that is being changed it is a gradual process. The support would be us getting directly involved, and settling things in Europe as we used to, with long, bloody wars. Think what countries like UK, France, Germany, and Poland mobilizing troops and sending them into Ukraine would mean. I doubt we'd stop at Ukraine either if an actual war is declared, we'd have to take out Russia's capacity to fight the war, which is their industry, ports, and infrastructure connections.

America was reluctant to give Ukraine any more aid. It was held up for months. vs Eastern Europe has had centuries of conflict with Russia, is rearming, and talking about sending troops? Do you see how you are ignoring the reality of what is occurring, and why it's occurring? European powers fighting wars in Europe have always met other European powers stopping them. It's a miracle that it hasn't happened so far, and it's only the case because America is giving money to Ukraine to fight it themselves. (Also because you are right, people in Europe got complacent) Do America, Russia, and any other arms producers like selling guns? YES! Do they give nukes to countries? No! America hates nuclear proliferation, as most countries do. We are talking about millions of people, and I am trying to give a collective view here, covering their leadership in the same statement.

Then maybe Russia is a pawn too? Did you see how that assumption went? Then how many European countries are rearming? I'll link a video at the bottom with the latest development to match Belarus. The foreign policy of Europe is 44 different countries' foreign policy, including Russia and Russian-aligned states. Again, your point of view sees one block. It sees the West, or NATO, or Europe. From our point of view, we are 44 voices, with 44 different foreign policies. Here is one of them: Poland asks again for nukes: https://apnews.com/article/poland-nuclear-weapons-nato-russia-ukraine-d92c508d6ff53683a25f1bc62d256f86 If you can for a second, try to put aside your (can I say block or collective) bias and understand Polish concerns, especially with Belarus getting nukes, then you can see the war in more focus and the potential fallout from it. Or the video version, the start is the relevant bit.

For people who have no idea about how Europe operates. When one power starts to conquer territory, alliances arise to fight them. It has always been that way, the different powers have kept each other in check for hundreds of years. *That is what a non-globalist reality looks like, the thing so many right-wingers have been rushing toward for a couple of decades with open arms.

1) THEY DID. Ukraine beat them out of Sumy, Kyiv, and Kherson, then held a line. Putin is interested in a greater Russia, this is his 8th war to create it. As the video shows, if Trump pulls out of NATO, a war with Europe is likely. Again, you belittle Europe, it's insane. Why do people do this? They did it to Russia, and now they do it to the rest of Europe. Do they want to create the same result again? It boggles the mind. Keep pushing, keep calling people weak, and the result is a war. When Europe does it back to Russia, you'll be saying oh how could this happen, those bad Europeans? Surprised face. Do I think far-right governments will tolerate an aggressive Russian expansion on their borders, and meddling in their elections, a pattern that has for centuries meant war and instability? No, I don't. I think without America holding NATO together there would already be a larger regional war, with Polish, English, and Baltic troops in Ukraine (at a minimum probably France and Finland too). Your entire focus on the Americans as the bad guys misses the regional history and reality of the region. As I've tried to tell you 100 times, America was reluctant to give this last round of aid, but Europe was asking for help or getting ready to use their own troops. Russia wants the baltics back inside Russia, as the video tells you. There are large Russian populations there. Putin has already said so. I can only keep repeating what he's said. You can ignore it. You can put your head in the clouds and just say America is the bad guy, thus never seeing both sides, or the ground reality at all in that case.