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This is still live for now, covering it as it happens. I am not sure on the status of the radiation leaks in Iran if they were confirmed or not. Trigger warning though. As always they are pro-Israel in this, pro-Ukraine etc Their 1206 day war map, mostly covering this for now: https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?entry=yt&mid=1DLKV9c6AOpQHU9-oxwO0H_p_Hxw70B8&ll=49.518304272668836%2C-0.6971817500000128&z=3
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BlueOak replied to carterfelder's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
You've never seriously seen a left debate if you are giving me this information. Its insane the amount of things they will argue over and the insane and often infuriating minutiae that will divide them. It's also their greatest strength in bringing new perspectives. I think they mean liberal centrist status quo vs a right debate. Because as a rule, the actual left never conforms to anything, let alone themselves, they have a bias to be contrarian in my experience. BUT the further right we go, perhaps there is some truth to say, that the obvious things become ever more pronounced to anyone left of the fascist mindset, and thus they are broadly aligned. That and i've seen maga (and reform) operating like I used to see the more dramatic versions of the left operating, and just rambling over incoherent streams of consciousness that are not grounded in reality in the slightest. -
BlueOak replied to Puer Aeternus's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
Thank you for giving me an education, and us all a break from the usual names. Without understanding the regional and local powers, we never actually understand what is going on. Everyone just focuses on global influence instead. I hope to see more of these videos. -
Apologies I didn't understand because you quoted my comment about crime etc. Yes that's very true of anyone acting on an identity too strongly.
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Life in prison for these guys, no parole.
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You'd care if the country fell into instability, you were personally robbed or couldn't afford the basics.
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That's how I feel. If I step into my own bias, I couldn't care less. What I do care about is social order, crime and a functioning economy far more than where someone is from. Because these things all impact my life. If they are contributing to society, not criminals and contributing to the economy then i'd open the borders as far as they can be, while maintaining the rule of law and social cohesion. This is why 'contributing to society is first on that list', because they'd be actively keeping it stable and prosperous. People who should not be let into the country, are those who have no wish to join the society as it currently stands, don't want to work or have sufficient criminal records to warrant concern i.e more than a traffic or minor offense. So the very first question to any immigrant should be something like this for my country: What do you love about the UK What are you going to do to contribute to keeping it that way. ^That is healthy nationalism, not pulling people off farms then whining when you have no farm workers and asking for bailouts, and watching food prices rise. That's just plain idiocy. As is barging into elementary school graduations, the people responsible need jail time for that, from the person who organised it through to the goons executing it.
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Newsom has a spine, which is a start. Little of this pushback is policy-based, meaning it can change with a few changes in perspective and then some serious investment into the left wing media machine again. I just watched a democratic senator responsible for the oversight of immigration get thrown to the ground and arrested for asking a question. When he got to make a speech afterwards, he sounded like he was about to cry. This is weak and it's not what's needed. Like Vaush said, he should have grabbed that podium with both hands. Part of this temporary pressure cooker we are all sitting in is to make men men again. A behaviour which is being rewarded and the opposite is being punished. While embodying masculinity, you hit Trump on his more feminine and also immature qualities. Its also a reflection of some of the wound that exists in men which tangles things. Trump's constant need for reassurance about being the best, like a kid needing a pat on the head. For example, you see this in men asking women to show some gratitude for doing a hard days work in red pill communities. *This is something liberals do 'okay' at as its more image-based, but they constantly aggravate this wound rather than heal it. Trump's need to express emotion outwardly all the time, rather than have it contained and processed internally, to build strength and order within before doing so. This is an hour-by-hour thing with Trump, he is in a reactive mode and mind constantly. *This is about his instability as a leader, a personality, and a man. (The last being critical to the republican base and current moment). - This comes out in everything, every action or decision of his you live through.. The need to blame others for our own internal failings. A lack of responsibility, accountability and discipline. In Trump this is constant and never-ending. It makes a weak man. And this needs to be talked about daily to re-parent a generation or two of lost men who never got taught it. That's off the top of my head, and its things you can do right now. The perspective shift happens gradually, when you are able to take on their own language fully. *Please note you don't need to argue traditional or untraditional gender roles with me, this is me speaking outside of my own internal bias. I couldn't care less about it.
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US Senator Thrown Out and Arrested by Trump Thugs: By the way, he's a member of the immigration subcommittee. I talked about this elsewhere but the speech afterwards was indeed a missed opportunity. The dems need to grab that podium with both hands at a time like this.
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What are the dems supposed to do when every immigration bill they propose the right rejects? If you mean the left of the dems, the actual left, then no, that's their place. Just like it's the right's place to push for the opposite, in a healthy functioning system, a centre ground would be established, and the two sides of the political spectrum would keep it in check. The circle of America politics looks like this to me. The left shouts a few things. The center shrugs, ignores it, and tries to do politics. The right ignores the center, and just does outrage drama politics. The center tries to court the right, and sometimes gets things done, at the cost of becoming ever more right-wing themselves. The right then have to keep going further right, to remain right of the Dems. Making more outrage, and more nonesense up to keep eyeballs on them. Then the left shout a few things and the circle repeats. This is why I say a pure duality political system has failed, not because it can't work, because it isn't working. America is actually a three-pole political system, trying to be a dual system.
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Does everyone representing the right know how many bills the democrats have tried to pass on immigration? A hell of a lot more than the republicans. This is about perception and the need for labor. The perception that the right is strong on immigration and the perception of fear The right's worship of capitalism, which requires cheap labor. A fascist's need for an opponent. A minority of actual left-wing commentators who would advocate for lax border controls. The actual left is so small these days I don't know how anyone with a straight face can blame the actual left for anything practically. Except to try to engineer perception for their own viewpoints.
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Among people who treat race as a reason to trust anyone. For everyone else, one has nothing to do with the other. The economy benefits from the labor, which means your quality of life is almost directly proportional to the strength, health, and skillset of the labor force. Along with obviously how that labor is used, maintained, and looked after with services. Culture which underpins everything in society, thrives with new inspiration. People dismiss this, but it both drives and stabilises almost everything about a country or region. Being a high immigration country and a rich, dynamic one nets you the best minds, the intellectuals want to be there. That is where development happens, that is how you rise and fall as a country in relation to your neighbours over time. These are some of the benefits of immigration off the top of my head, everyone always wants to shout about the opposite, so you all know those already. Social issues of integration, housing, fear from the unknown or uncertainty, more criminality from the levels of poverty and inequality driving it that an initial immigrant experiences, etc.
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Understanding something doesn't mean embracing it.
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To them it is important, I accept that. To me, it's a pigment, the level of melatonin in the body. Skin color means nothing at all to me. I engage people on an individual basis. Their belief systems, and moreover how they are in that moment, have significantly more to do with how our interaction goes. Black, Brown, White, doesn't matter. These two perspectives are almost impossible to reconcile; only accept and work out a compromise. Hence, if you are accepting its importance to them, you have to also accept the same for the other side. That's what you either don't understand or are choosing not to vocalize. That is what the right will not do. So you are expecting me to forever move toward their position, and on these fundamental disagreements of race I cannot and will not. I will fight for the equal treatment of all races under the law and betterment within society till the day I pass from this earth, whenever I am in a position where it's called on to do so.
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Here is another way to neutralise that from a sensible righting perspective. Define humane to me in this context. As this too is a conflation. Then humane can be exactly defined in law. I personally think it'll be hard to define humane to mean, not working for the collective good while you are in prison. By hard labor I am meaning useful jobs that contribute. I feel the majority of the country, including the left are for tracking immigrants.