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Why guess as human Leo? Can you not ask these questions as that mouseGod? After all, that being is certain to be vastly superior in wisdom and understanding than any human could ever hope to be. Of course, I was using a different definition of Omnipresence though. Omnipresence refers to the infinitude of God's experience. But there can be many different meanings to the concept of experiencing absolutely everything. For instance, does this Alien have direct access to the entirety of all mankind's personal experiences? If so, then that's amazing, isn't it? If not so, then why? Why is this being limited in that area and how? Another thing, how loving is this being? Can you imagine something it wouldn't love? Also, how does it's infinite love compare to say, the infinite love you've expressed in past states of God consciousness? Of course, the human mind by default is very limited and struggles substantially with these things usually. Of course not! Only I am so crazy as to hold myself to those kinds of seemingly impossible standards and maintain such incredible ambition. At the same time however, I'd like to point out that this whole concept of Man vs God is kinda nonsensical since man is just God hallucinating that it's man. As a side note, I've as a human taken somewhat of a hiatus from psychedelics in recent time, but am likely to come out of it as there's substances that are just far too useful in aiding me in my work not to do them. Nonetheless, my human only experience is invaluable as manipulating reality from various levels of capability permits me to learn in a way I couldn't if I stuck only to God consciousness all the time. As I wouldn't have the reference of success/failure in doing so from lower levels of mind to compare against the same in higher states.

@Leo Gura Because the mouse and your human body were morphed into one entity. Is it not possible for you to become this I don't even know what to call it, Omniscient, Omnipotent, hyperdimensional Godself on a permanent basis? Furthermore, in what dream/reality/place which is beyond all dreams/realities does this being exist? You have said that the natural laws it's under differ from those of the reality which houses Leo. Therefore, it seems reasonable that there's some kind of perceptual barrier that exists in your perception between these two realities. But because these are both our imagination, the separateness of them is made up by us, therefore isn't it possible for you to send things from one reality into another by means of the Alien's sovereignty as God? And lastly, to what extent is this Alien being Omnipresent and in what sense? True, well said. Furthermore, this means you have the ability to alter the laws of physics using your mind. With human consciousness, this may be difficult or even impossible, but as we all know, human consciousness can be in many different ways..... many many many many different ways. You can even become something that's not even human anymore lol. Then it's as objective as we desire it to be. As such, we can modify the degree of subjectivity/objectivity of it.

I agree with you here, this is in part why I objected as I did because you stated something that's contrary to my understanding of you. Namely that God was essentially beyond your comprehension on the grounds that our nature is too radical and alien to be comprehended by you. Of course, you did not overtly state this but implied it, I was responding to your implication of guilt in your incapacity to understand us, not any overt deliberate statement. So I'm trying to help you better articulate yourself by pointing out that you should never make a statement that lacks nuance such as "No one on the forum can do x", especially since such phraseology includes you. If you've read even just a small minority of the things I've posted, it's probably obvious to you that we're substantially in agreement about basically everything relative to metaphysics, and the true nature of existence. There are only mostly tiny discrepancies that arise between our worldviews, which in my understanding has occurred for two reasons. One, at the level of our human selves, my own moral philosophy is significantly more utilitarian than yours. And two, because I have substantially more experience attempting to do magickal things from a relatively ordinary human state of consciousness with varying degrees of success. And as such, I've had different insights to you at times, though I've also through means similar to the means you employ also discovered many of the same truths that you have. You are me so of course. Much of the criticisms I have levied toward you in the past, have revolved around areas where in my estimation you've imposed unnecessary limits on yourself. Which of course substantially alienates me from the majority of your other critics who have the opposite inclination. Who tell you that you're deluded because you're a human limited to the things a human can do, thinking that they're God. The heart of all my criticism is basically the inverse of this, that because you truly are God, you don't have to accept any of the limits you have accepted. Our current society wants to pigeon hole you into accepting the status quo ante and all its limitations, I however have endeavored to push you in 180 degrees the other direction. Indeed, from your experiences that correlate to experiences of my own, I've profited substantially in many verticals. Mostly in the form of gaining greater clarity and a superior understanding of things, the value of which can't be easily quantified. This makes me think you read quite a lot of the things I've written on this forum. As I often present myself in a way that is indicative of blatant biases toward usefulness.

Logically speaking, this is to say that Leo doesn't understand what Awakening is.

The universe doesn't have a beginning, which is something you can discover via omniscience or omnipotence. And the big bang is essentially a human delusion, it involves an explosion bringing time and space into existence, when in fact time is eternal as there would need to be a time prior to time in order for time to come into existence. It's possible however for Earth's specific spacetime continuum illusion to have entered existence, but only within another spacetime continuum illusion that existed before it. And at some point, you have eternity if you go back far enough in history, as otherwise, you'd have an infinite regression loop with no beginning which would be the same as time never having existed at all.

We invented logic, so it's only logical that we would be beyond its grasp and any limit-defining capability logic may have. Why would Buddhism tell us that all separate beings are an illusion occurring within one entity? Why would they tell us that reality is a dreamed-up illusory existence? There are many things that Buddhism has gotten right. All because, at least this is my own personal hot take because the Buddha is an import from India, and Hinduism/the Yogic traditions are among some of the highest quality religious/scientific communities in history.

Materalism is so deeply ensconced in the consciousness of our culture, that it's all too easy for us to delude ourselves into denying the veracity of the truths gleaned from drug-induced experiences. From my perspective now, it's almost amazing that he can maintain the worldview he does and also have had the radical experiences he's reported. It's reminiscent of a story I heard when studying Huna. Where Hewahewa, who was the tribe's prophet, encountered Christian westerners. He reasoned that because of their advanced tech, they must assuredly be practicing a form of magick superior to that of his own people. And when Hewahewa heard the legends of the mighty Jesus Christ of Nazareth resurrecting the dead, he practically salivated over the possibility of meeting Christians because he assumed they could do the things their Lord and Savior allegedly did. Hewahewa was somewhat adept in his practice, and had divined future events many times before in service to his tribe, and also did many other supernatural acts successfully. So it's only natural from his point of view that the amazing feats Jesus did in the bible could be humanly possible, even though he(Hewahewa) wasn't so powerful. Of course, when he actually met these people, he was profoundly disappointed. Because he discovered that they couldn't even do magickal things he found very basic to do, and was amazed at how wrong the assumptions of his conscious mind were about the capabilities of this foreign culture. Sometimes when listening to people like Adeptus Psychonautica speak about their experiences, then go on to reject the obvious teachings behind them, I can't help but feel as if I know how Hewahewa must have felt when he finally got to meet the Great Christian not Miracle workers.

Yes, you have a clear understanding of the differences which exist between Leo's methodology and that of Buddhists. Though, as it's probably become obvious, you seem to have missed the fact that Leo essentially has one goal, at least consciously anyway. And that's the quest to obtain the most accurate understanding and knowledge of the truths which are of the greatest importance. This is contrasted by Buddhism's prime motivation of the reduction of human suffering, which is mostly unrelated to truth-seeking. However, these different motivations have some parallels in that because Buddhism seeks to accomplish this goal via spiritual means, they accidentally stumble on the kinds of truths Leo seeks out from time to time. I'm speaking here, mostly based on my own experience, where I accidentally awakened trying to acquire certain special knowledge for purely utilitarian reasons through spiritual practice. As such, it makes sense to me that Buddhism's similarities to Leo's teachings arose in this fashion.

Gradual dosing is indubitably a very wise practice. @amanen And yeah, I've done extensive research on certain substances on Erowid and have been mostly disappointed with the rarity of reports where the tripper had a good reason for tripping. There are hardly any instances of entheogenic use, it's mostly just college kids telling tales about the time they wanted to get fucked up. It can be useful to help determine how a substance is likely to impact human consciousness irrespective of any other variable, but individuals such as myself and others on the forum here never just go and do a drug like that, so it's not the most useful information ever.

Are you certain it was actual LSD and not contaminated with something else?

@spiritual memes Interesting, you weren't on Lithium at the time by chance?

Perhaps a better question to ask would be does the world stop existing if you shut off all of your senses since you can still detect things with closed eyes. The answer is not easy to articulate, because reality is a hallucination of yours, so in that way it wouldn't exist anymore because there's no one to hallucinate that it exists. The problem with saying that, is that you aren't the human entity you think of yourself as, but instead you're absolutely everything, so if there were other humans still hallucinating that they exist in a world, you're them so in that sense it still exists, just not for you in your specific form of which you're conscious as a self.

I have found a way, however, it's far from being perfected and isn't even in use by myself, as I haven't worked the bugs out of it yet, it would be perceived as me being irresponsible to discuss it here also. So, I'm currently considering either finding a different way or devising some kind of possible modification that may make it better/less potentially deleterious.

This reminds me of when I had been lucid dreaming just before I experienced my first God realization that would stick with me. Where I knew I had to be in a sleeping dream, but the damn thing functioned like the waking world whenever I tried to control it or do something "impossible". I was so flustered when I returned to the waking state at how I couldn't control my own imagination/reality.

@Holymoly Pretty much any question you have about spirituality is unlikely to be a stupid question. Since we're talking about something that's so excessive in terms what any normal human can experience, even a question that may seem stupid to us certainly won't seem stupid to your peers.

Of course. Not at all, from the absolute perspective, all is literally one so all infinities and finities become the same thing, hence why the illusion of opposites is the genesis of much human confusion as such. Right. Well sure, but it would be more acutely accurate to say that thoughts give structure to feelings much as the spacetime continuum illusion gives form to the air in which it dwells(the air and space are one absolutely, and the air arises out of and within space). A hell of a thing isn't it? To imagine that your imagination is actually someway other than the way it actually is, maya is deliciously twisted.

Eh, it would appear Leo's far too afraid of ya know physically killing himself to do Datura. You might want to make your trolls more accurate next time with a little more research first.

Or a box of benadryl, that'll do ya real nice.

Because everything you experience and ever have experienced is a product of your mind, it tends to conform to the sum expectations of your thoughts and feelings. It is possible to become aware of this as a human entity even while sober, by trying to change some aspect of your reality persistently by redefining it. One such example might have or perhaps should have some relevance to your body and health. If you think that you're perfectly healthy, you tend to become that way or at least more in that direction. How faithfully reality conforms to this kind of deliberate magickal exertion by the ego is of course predicated on your state of consciousness, on nearly any mind-altering substance, it works far better than when sober. When sober, in my experience at least, it takes a minimum of 10,000's of repetitions of a thought before I start to notice any serious evidence of reality conforming to my expectations(I've spent whole days and weeks thinking the same thought all day long over and over again). Though, as I got more experience with this practice, after long periods of rest and working again I'd notice changes much faster than I could before, you start to become aware of very acute changes you'd never before would have noticed it would seem.

Perhaps a more precise way of articulating it would be to say that it's a shame Leo either doesn't realize he can do it or hasn't discovered how to do so, given the restraints he experiences.

There is nothing, everything and nothing.

It's a shame Leo can't reach out through the monitor's screen and slip a couple tabs of acid under your tongue.

The infinite is finite, and the finite is infinite.

This is a different science than what is being practiced. It is essentially a generalistic ideal of what science could or should be. The same fact pattern exists within religion, as an idealistic concept religion is pure and only pertains to the truth, in practice, it's however something very different.

@BipolarGrowth As of late, I've also felt that Leo's content has started to lose relevance with me, almost as if everything I made Leo to teach me he already had, and if I kept listening he would just reiterate philosophical claptrap that isn't really pertinent to the work I'm doing, no matter how valid it(the philosophy) might be in it's own right. When I realized that humans were capable of attaining a state of infinite power, then months later Leo experiences not in a human state, but a high-level drug-induced Omnipotent state and reports to us about it, that was really when I felt he reached the apex of his usefulness to me, since then it's gradually tapered off. As for solipsism, or to be more specific what you call traditional solipsism. To comprehend how I understand this to be essentially an epistemological blunder, some background theoretical understanding first is necessary. There are essentially two dimensions to how the human mind arrives at intellectual judgments, well three but I'll exclude the emotional dimension here. There are the logico-rational and the emotional-intuitive dimensions, though it's possible to utilize intuition separately from emotions so we could just as simply say the intuitive dimension. When I say logic, I mean one's ability to think on their own and arrive at conclusions independently of input from other sentient beings' thoughts or intelligence. Logic is of course a simple little process, that eliminates impossibilities based on known information. When I say rationale, I'm referring to basically the same process, but instead of generating one's own logic you're just borrowing someone else's, essentially stealing their thoughts and reasoning processes as it was. So the logico-rational dimension of human judgments represents a synthesis of one's own logic and all the logic of perceived other selves. Intuition is difficult to put into words because there is no mechanism for it, you just know something because you know. There are mechanical aspects to this potential, if the self has certain biases which manifest as negative emotional responses, then certain intuitions are blocked for the sake of the ego. Anyway, an example of human intuition is the obvious realization that other humans are "just like you" so to speak. Or in other words, they're a self that also has its own experiences. This intuition then is normally reinforced by the logical thinking mind which may after looking in a mirror, see that oh I have a face, a nose, two eyes etc, thus I'm a member of the same species as the other humans. And of course, when the intuitive and logical dimensions of the mind work synergistically like this, it becomes essentially impossible to imagine that either one could be making an error. And because your experiences of reality are generated by your own mind through basically blind faith. You imaging that others are real and have their own experiences separate from your own makes it so. This is why I've called traditional solipsism an epistemological blunder, because it's simply untrue. So traditional solipsism arises when someone refuses to permit their logical thinking mind to incorporate the intuitions of higher levels of mind. Women tend to be slightly stronger in the emotional-intuitive dimension and this is just a generality of course. But because of this, oftentimes if you teach solipsism to a woman she'll just respond with yeah that got to be bullshit. Which is obviously an illogical argument as you can't debunk something on sheer incredulity or with ad hominem. But it's correct because the truth is others do exist in a very real capacity, and the intuitive mind is always aware of that reality. As such, it's mostly only men that'll buy into this traditional solipsism. And yes, to some extent this a minor criticism of your occasional statement of "if you're an experiential being". Lol, if you imagine me to be I am, and you do, the fact that you're reading these statements is proof of that. The solipsism Leo teaches is radically different from what you call traditional solipsism. So much so that it can even be construed as the same concept without being the same thing at all. And I'd mostly agree with how you've opined on Leo's arguments and statements, though I have to say that it feels like you've mostly addressed just your own understanding of solipsism in the video, and not really necessarily exactly what Leo has to say. This is exactly why Leo decided to take that video down. It became apparent that the vast majority of humans, even many in Leo's audience were insufficient in terms of the prerequisite maturity and experience needed to handle the things he said in the video. It's just too fucking powerful a statement to tell a normal person that they're all that exists, if for no reason other than the fact that they don't really have a clue what that even means. It's almost like those of us that have had higher consciousness experiences are some kind of secret society and we have a covert system of codes and symbols to articulate things no one with only exoteric knowledge can comprehend. And yet we're actually none of those things, it's really just that we've experienced things so far beyond the limits of ordinary human consciousness that our perspective is mostly alien and incomprehensible to your average Joe.