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  4. Posted

    22 minutes ago, KatiesKarma said:

    @Leo Gura last night I showed a friend of mine, who is into philosphy and a hardcore atheist, some of your videos. Immediately he said: this guy is corrupted, he cannot speak of telling us the Truth because there is falsehood in his work and if he does not tell us what exactly is false about it we might as well have to assume that everything about it is false. Based on the blogpost where you yourself say falsehood is in your work.

    In another blogpost you go on to say that neither Nirvana, Meditation, Drugs, Void, No Self, Buddhism, Christanity, etc etc etc nor etc etc etc is God-realization and basically that post just screamed "everything is a lie and truth cannot be known because we live in something that is made out of lies"

     

     

    Your friend, probably, has no idea about what he is talking about, to be honest. He just seems to be stuck in his socalled realism and rationality. 

     

  5. Posted

    7 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

    But I also feel this feeling constantly. Not all the time, but more so than not. When I get lost in resistance, worry etc, it doesn't take long to get back to presence for me. The something deep you're referring to as soon as I open my eyes from sleep, I feel that. Life has a way of distracting you, so the States are fleeting, but overall my resistance to life has dropped tremendously and I'm seeing the impact that it has on my psyche without the use of psychedelics. Idk maybe, because of who I am as a person and how I gradually became more aware and it wasn't forced through any substances and maybe it will make me even more Conscious to Reality's true nature by taking them. 

    I probably would if I didn't see the adverse reactions, especially with first-time users, just to see what it's like. But just to see what it's like is not a sufficient reason for me to want to do it.

    Before i took them, i was, personally, not very aware of the depth and goodness of being. I had some spiritual concepts in my mind, iirc, but the depth they showed me was just wow. I mean, it was like i was aware of the spiritual concepts and had some understanding and experience of them, but imagine being totally resistance free for a while, like being dead for a while, what psychedelics did to me, in that sense, was something like that. 

    And, as i said, any time i had those trips, what i was saying to myself was "this already is who i am, so i actually don't need to take any substances to get to this". It is literally like you waking up from a dream, and realizing that even the psychedelics that bring you to that state of consciousness are a part of the dream. 

     

  7. Posted

    6 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

    This comment I'm about to make might "itch" a lot of people and maybe Leo himself as he's into psychedelics himself and strongly recommends it, but I feel the need to address this. Mostly out of curiosity and purpose. 

    I understand, from reading a lot of posts about it and seeing how many of you use it or even use to use it. The claim is that it can help us to become God Realized, at least that's what I'm understanding, correct me if I'm wrong. Is that the only purpose? Sincerely asking. I've never done them, nor am I interested in doing them. Mostly because I'm not comfortable with what the outcome may bring, meaning reactions and difficultly getting through the phase. I've never done any hard drugs like cocaine, heroin and whatever else is out there and I understand psychedelics is not in the same category, but just making a point. I'm too scared for how I might react so I don't even bother, no need.

    Ok, so now we're God Realized, then what. How does that change how you maneuver this world and try to become a loving, kind and compassionate human being. If you already know you're Source energy/God, why would we need to do psychedelics. Is there another purpose. Will it make you more aware of how Reality works, how the Universe works and how the mind works. Also, how to relate to people and how to reduce your suffering. Will it make us knowledgeable on how to generate our own feelings of love and fulfilment where we recognize the power within and how to use it for a more rewarding experience. Will it make us understand how we are creating our Reality and that we are responsible for our own happiness and joy without looking to outside sources. These are legitimate questions I'm asking and they are not rhetorical. I truly want to know the answers.

    What does being Awake really mean and the term Enlightenment. Does Enlightenment mean you recognize the Oneness that is here and that everyone is you, you are everyone and everything, and there is no separation. There is no personal self and we are all the same and different at the same time? What does these terms truly mean and what are they really pointing to.

    Back to the psychedelic use. Is it so we can recognize God faster and to Awaken to our true nature faster. If so, then what. How do we use this new-found knowledge. I already know I'm a part of God and God's energy is flowing through me. I don't need psychedelics to know that. God is not somewhere out there, it is me, you, everyone and everything. It is Consciousness. The Universe lives within me and the Universe is non-local. It is Infinite. The mind is Infinite and is made up of different parts. There is a quantum field and we are a part of this field. We are this field. I mean I can go on and on about some of this stuff but how does the use of psychedelics make you more aware of the nature of existence. 

    I also take note that it is possible to release trauma from the body. Is this permanent. What if there's no trauma stored. Aren't there other ways to achieve this. Taking psychedelics and seeing the walls move or elephants in your hands or seeing yourself as the coffee table, what difference does that make in your personal life when it wears off. You still can't walk through the walls. Knowing certain things can influence our thought patterns and elevate our Consciousness; but is psychedelics that important to make these changes.

    Understand that I'm asking these questions to get a better understanding of the importance of this substance and it's use. This Forum does provide value in other ways and is very versatile both in content and it's features. Sometimes we joke around and sometimes get angry and frustrated and even get depressed and sad and all sorts of emotions run through here, but it seems to me that most of us are here to learn and share our Spiritual journey with others and can maybe impact each other for the better. I just don't see the need to be constantly pushing the use of psychedelics to people who already know it exists and are not interested or maybe not ready or sure if it's the path they want or prefer to take and making it seem as if it's the only way to Awaken to your true nature. Thanks for reading and the responses will truly enlighten me to my ignorance of this substance and what I'm not aware of.

    Psychedelics might help you see reality from a very different point of view. I've had a few psychedelic experiences myself, and almost in all those experiences what i was saying to myself was "this already is who i am, i was just not allowing myself to see the obvious". 

    Now it's been a while since i last took psychedelics, and, to be honest, i'm open to the idea of taking them again. But i'm more in the mindset that what i need to do is to do the belief work and release my resistance, and then psychedelics, if it is really necessary for me, will find me. 

    I can tell you that psychedelics influence you from a very deep level, and even if the effects of it wear off in time, it leaves a mark in you, so to speak, that it always calls you, like a very quiet whisper within you, so to speak. Even when you get lost in resistance, fear, worry, and so forth, there is that understanding within you almost all the time that tells you that there is something deep going on here right now, wherever i am, and i am not, in this moment, very aware. 

     

  9. Posted

    1 hour ago, hyruga said:

    Yeah the forum has definitely evolved.

    In the past, people were still talking about book like Think and Grow rich and how to be successful.

    And then, people move on to law of attraction. 

    And then to non duality.

    And now so many people are on psychedelics and so many are claiming to be awakened. 

    But, i think, true evolution is evolving by involving. So, it should not exclude ideas like think and grow rich and law of attraction, and so forth. It should both include those understandings while, at the same time, transcending those understandings. 

     

  12. Posted

    2 hours ago, framu said:

    Yeah that makes a lot of sense. I totally agree with the strong inbuilt structure you are mentioning.

    One thing I feel is really relevant is that if somebody who is sceptical to some miraculous or mystical event that contradicts physics and logic, then that particular outcome will not manifest in reality because all of the observers (or most of the observers) need to be open to the idea that it could work. This is probably stretching it a bit far, but with the example of Jesus walking on water or Moses opening the Red Sea, I could see that potentially being a real manifestation because the observers at that time was open to Jesus or Moses being capable of doing remarkable things that contradicted their worldview. With todays science, people are bought into the idea that reality is "material" following strict physical rules which cannot be broken. Hence walking on water would not be possible because people couldn't in their wildest fantasy believe that it was real.

    But if you think that law of attraction is a universal truth about the universe, do you use it for any practical manner? And if so, how?

    Yeah, i agree with you pretty much about that. In their era, if they really lived, miracles were something people believed to be real and even normal. They were not fed with the ideas of materialistic science and philosophy. 

    And about your question about what i do with the law of attraction, i actually don't see myself as a creator, instead i see myself more as a tuner and receiver. I'm not trying to imagine or visualize what i want into being, because i've discovered that it often backfires on me. 

    Instead i'm trying to follow more of a receptive path, so to speak, where i quite my mind as much as i can, and try to allow myself to receive thoughts, ideas and inspirations. I'm more of a follower of wu wei, the effortless effort, in that sense. 

     

  13. Posted

    2 hours ago, Oppositionless said:

    I’ve been using chat gpt to make a rough outline of a story about a hero named Xian. today I was at lunch and met a woman with a baby named Zian, a name derived from the Chinese Xian.

    I’ve never met anyone mamed Xian or Zian before, it was pretty interesting.

    Maybe chatgpt is some sort of an antenna that receives from other realities, huh ?

  14. Posted

    1 hour ago, framu said:

    Haha. I think you are speaking a bit above my head with regards to Darryl anka and Bashar? 

    But for the purpose of total practicality, most people on earth today are not spiritual seekers. With this assumption I think that law of attraction can be used in an egoic way to better the lives of human kind. And it´s more simple than externally motivating other people to take on spiritual practices. For example praying (or using law of attraction in an egoic way) to get money, stop hunger, living peacefully etc could be good for humanity. This was the insight I got coming down from that trip I was talking about - that Muhammad and Jesus understood this and thus preaching prayer as a way of law of attraction.

    What do you think about this?

    Yeah, both Mohammad and Jesus said many things that can be interpreted as some form of law of attraction. You can see many quotes from other spiritual and religious leaders, and beings, also. 

    However, the main message in those wisdom teachings has mostly been about surrendering your will to the will of God. And, sure, when you understand that reality has a mental nature, at least to some extent, even if you may not believe that it is totally mental, then it might, possibly, be logical to say that your thoughts have some influence on your reality. 

    However, we often do not have that much power over reality as our human ego selves. You hardly can break the laws of physics, for instance, and if you do so, even if to a very slight degree, then you will consider it to be something miraculous. Reality has a very strong inbuilt structure to it, even if it might possibly be a mental structure, at a deeper analysis, you know. 

     

  20. Posted · Edited by Vibroverse

    1 hour ago, Bobby_2021 said:

    Do you see any difference between the visual experience of a tree and a cat? 

    Are there two letters the same or different?

    A B - Different 

    B B - Same

    This difference exists in the visual experience. You can choose to build on top of it by conceptualizing. 

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    When I say I make distinctions what I mean is that I imagine a distinction in my mind.

    Visual experience is God's mind.

    I can recognize and conceptualize that in my human mind.

    All minds are capable of coming up with distinction. The human mind itself is a distinction imagined by the mind of God. 

    Those two Bs are the same in some ways and different in other ways. For instance, the spacetime locations of those Bs are different, they are in different locations in the cyber space, and one was written before the other. And the subatomic particles that produce those two Bs are also different. 

    Those two Bs might also be seen in different semiotic ways, where you can see one as the letter B while you can see the other as a representation of two boobs, or the front teeth of Bugs Bunny. So, only when you define those two Bs in a certain contextual meaning, then they are the same. 

     

  22. Posted

    9 minutes ago, Sabth said:

    Who is Seyyed Hossein Nasr? I've heard and known about him before but can't seem to remember.

    Oh I had this book : 

    https://books.google.com.my/books/about/The_Study_Quran.html?id=GVSzBgAAQBAJ&printsec=frontcover&source=kp_read_button&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&gboemv=1&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false

    He is a perennialist muslim scholar who basically claims that all religions and wisdom teachings, at their core, are talking about the same thing. An idea that is not very unfamiliar to the actualized.org folks. 

     

  25. Posted

    I live in Turkey, a predominantly Muslim country, and i've studied Islam from many different perspectives for a pretty long time. And I can tell you that there are, like, endless interpretations and perceptions on Islam, many many schools that think differently from each other. And that, of course, is pretty much what the situation is in almost all spiritual and religious teachings.