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@Leo Gura how is hijacking a plane worse than what all israel has done? Ive seen the real footage of gaza and I dont think Ive ever seen anything more horrific in my life. And even on a strategic level, tons of western countries are speaking up against Israel now. I think the UN even has a warrant for him.

@something_else Try GPT-6 Astra light - specifically, for computer use, its a major jump compared to any computer use I've seen before this. Also I was using Opus 5 for cybersecurity for months, like rigorously, and Astra max was able to point out major wholes completely missed by Opus 5. (Fable too easily refuses security stuff its annoying) .. AGI? Definitely not. That's marketing by Sam Altman, etc. And you're right its not world-shattering. That's the marketing again. But I would say it's the best thing available right now. I also would say its quite a big jump too. But that jump is when you're deep in the weeds. From a distance, it's just some advanced progress. Here's where I think the hype comes from: People need the best. If Astra beats Opus, which it does for the most part, they go for that, and big shifts in consumer use happens. Fable is too cost-inefficient to be a daily coding agent. I think people just saw that it performs better than their existing coding agent setup, and made the shift. Then when that shift happens, people dramatize it, add all kinds of fancy marketing words to it, etc. and then it seems collectively everyone things AGI has arrived, when it hasn't.

@LordFall I actually don't waste my time with 99% of the latest features, and all that. I think most of that is a distraction. I think its a lot simpler, to be honest. For 6 months now there's only really 2 tools at the frontier of intelligence, Claude and ChatGPT for conversations as you say. But for coding agents, which is what I'm most excited about that's Claude Code and Codex, same 2 companies going head to head. (Some will say it's other tools like OpenClaw, etc. but I'm simplifying) If you start to use these few coding agents, they will automatically use the latest features for you. But I'm biased towards a vision of making great software products, but tbh really I think everyone should be using coding agents. I got my whole family on it, and some are not even into making software or coding, etc. Btw you don't need to know how to code to use coding agents. Coding agents will automatically find the best features for you, and even use those latest AI tools and features for you. That way you're not wasting time manually doing all that. For ex. I would use a coding agent to make an image rather than going to an image model to make an image, as a small example. All my time now is spent talking to either Codex or Claude Code, and they handle all my operations: image gen, building my site, managing my database, building me software, emails, etc.

@Leo Gura It's honestly quite disappointing how you care about "truth", and yet you let your own emotions of these "billion dollar companies" consistently get in the way of actually assessing truth. You barely use the models and you have no idea what these models are capable of, how they work, etc. You're getting hung up on the fact that it's "intelligent". Obviously it's just a computer program, math, etc. The point is it's artificial. The point is the value and the utility it provides to society, which is undeniably massive. Healthcare, cybersecurity, and so much more. I have personally experienced massive benefits in all these areas. Do you realize how limited your claims are that it just fools people? I'm not saying that there's no corruption here, lies, etc. But the problem is you have a very one-sided rigid view on this. That's not truth. "You will say, "So what? It's good enough." No, it's not good enough when it comes to doing the work that needs to be done by a genius. Or even an average man." How would you know? You don't even use these models enough. Your also blocked by your own emotions and biases of it. I have come across tons of geniuses and average people who have gotten massive value from it, a ton of productivity, and so on. Big companies now, tons, are requiring their employees to use these tools. Do you think they're all fucking stupid? You think you're the only genius out there as you sit on your couch coming up with ideas in your head with no grounding in the real world, no deep study of people actually using these tools? I really value your ideas, philosophy, etc. but over the years as I saw your takes on AI, and just how grossly limited they are, it has shown me the limitations of you, your approach, etc. I'm not saying you approach everything in that way, but that you are capable of it? At least I am more picky with what you say. One thing you should think about with these big companies, since you're so hung up on them. Society financially rewards those who produce value for society. The reason they are billionaires in the first place is the massive value they are providing to society. That doesn't negate the lies, the BS, etc. that they tell. But if your takes were more nuanced, then there would be no problem. But do you realize how irresponsible it is and the effects your words have on a group of people when they're so one-sided? To even say "they all dont care". Even that is such a gross over-statement. Do you personally know what goes on in each persons head? Do you know what's going on in Cybersecurity? I have got it to found very serious vulnerabilities. If people don't adopt these tools, their infrastructure can be seriously compromised. As AI advances also, and bad actors get a hold, you would need these tools even more.

@Leo Gura just an idea for you .. throwing it out there .. I've watched your 4 vlog videos on your blog on creativity disproportionately more than any other video on your channel .. I tried to learn creativity from many other sources, but the prob is with most other creativity sources, they are a bit too academic, not as inspirational, and I don't feel like I'm tapping into creativity as I'm engaging with those sources. Your videos were great in that sense, and I can keep coming to it, and I'd always have new creative ideas just from listening to those alone, just during the videos alone. I know you know the value of creativity, as you're planning a course on it and stuff (if that's still coming), but I just wanted to emphasize how important those videos are, and maybe the vault can have its own area just for creativity alone.

@bazera Yeah from what I see, all it is is that, mainly a reputational blow. Unintentionally, its possible it accelerated the pace of the technology improvement overall as well across many companies, and conversely they're also getting feedback on their code right now lol, all kinds of improvements by regular folks, which should improve their own architecture.

@Leo Gura It's honestly surprising how pessimistic you are. And there are a lot of holes in what you're saying. 1) "how one error or bug can break your whole company" .. If you think Anthropic is fucked because of this, you're being naive. Company's give away their code all the time. What makes Claude Code still a stand-alone product is the engineers and their continuous movement, pace and evolution. A month or 2 from now, they would have written their entire codebase again from scratch. 2) If any company who writes AI code has thorough checks, guardrails, and security, AI or not, then how does it matter if its AI-generated or not. 3) "The notion that you can vibe code your way to maintain a billion dollar software project is insane." That's literally what Anthropic is doing, and tons of other companies. The evidence is mounting against your statements but you think all companies are liars if they say they use AI to write code. You hand-pick specific incidents, and you don't even use these tools and test them yourselves. Your statements come from a larger initiative you've taken to find "corruption" in everything you come across. You speak about things you don't have experience with, and you adopt a lens of finding corruption everywhere that you don't see the full picture. The notion that you can vibe code your way to maintain a billion dollar software project is insane. - Nothing crazy about it. This conformist vibe coding mentality will kill companies. Mark my words. - Saying that's conformist doesn't account for all the diverse kinds of people who operate in all kinds of ways benefiting from Claude Code. You think all these minds are dumb and you're the only intelligent one when you don't even use Claude Code or these tools extensively. You speak about things you literally have no extensive experience in.

@Leo Gura I think there's miscommunication because it's not that I'm not serious. I've been seriously considering to do it for years. What I was referring to was the deep spirituality it brings you into which scares me off. But for the other benefits you mentioned in the past which I've seen are life transforming, that's what draws me to it seriously, which is why I've been wanting to do it for years.

@Leo Gura I always wondered this, but sometimes I don't know if I want to dive that deep into spirituality, god consciousness and all that, but all the benefits of kriya yoga seem appealing to me. Does it make sense to pursue kriya yoga if you're not actually looking to find god and stuff? I know the very definition of that, is to find god, or union, and I think you said earlier that the goal of kriya yoga is that, but I do recall all the other benefits you mentioned in the past. Practically speaking, if one does it for 6 months they'd know if its the right path for them and whether to continue or not? Maybe thats what gets you to desire deeper spirituality when you experience it for yourself? Just wondering if you had any thoughts on this. I'm still quite business and practical life oriented at the moment.

@Leo Gura I connected with my history teacher after 10+ years and he basically confirmed that this is already happening. They're making his life much harder, AI and the students.

@Leo Gura on a side note, I've been observing your recent replies and I'm not sure but I don't think you commented at all or much on the war with Iran? Not that I'm depending on this, but it would be valuable to hear your thoughts on it .. unless you're planning an episode on the entire fiasco or something? This is the first time I have people, family from around the world affected by this, even hearing the sounds of the attacks and shaking of the windows. This seems somewhat unprecedented.

@Leo Gura ah damn I didn't even think about that. Kid aside, even I don't want to live in a world where everything around me is AI-augmented in terms of meaning, writing, etc. That's quite depressing. Tbh its probably already likely happening, but just the start of it. Billboards, posters, food items, everything. There likely will be no escaping it just like how devices have become an integral part of society that is quite hard to escape.

@Leo Gura well its no different from any other trap a parent should guide a child to avoid in life: drugs, weed, etc. Of course one wouldn't be able to completely shield from AI, but there's still a lot that can be done to prevent crazy AI misuse. Worst case? Move to the scottish countryside and hang out with chickens and cows and enjoy nature and stuff lol .. half kidding half serious

@Leo Gura Yes, I have a big problem with this aspect: "obviate human intelligence, consciousness, and creativity" which is why I vowed to never allow my child, when I have one, to use AI for like 20 years. I can forsee that people will outsource their intelligence to AI and that will just make humans dumber. That's pretty clear that this will occur. My conclusion on AI is that its a hallucination machine, from one perspective. Hallucination is not truth. It is a hyper-creative hallucination machine which they're trying to tame, align, etc. but its still a hallucination machine. Misunderstanding AI as truth has caused me problems. I think also as the community of actualized.org, we are not accounting for many communities who proactively outsource their intelligence heavily, don't know how to think for themselves, etc. and they will all suffer immensely, because this beast will ride them. (not to say that we are immune to its dangers though).

@Leo Gura a quick test of human intelligence vs. AI intelligence hit me when I was talking to ChatGPT and then switched to deep journaling in OneNote. I instantly realized how much more powerful that level of contemplation, creativity, understanding, etc. is with OneNote. I also think there's something quite deeply wrong when they say that AI intelligence is PhD level.

@Leo Gura I think the AI hype is very real, but why are we underestimating the power of these tools though? Here is where I was deceived with AI: 1) I spent months on projects because AI was hyping me up. I saw through that, and now I'm very cautious about long-term decisions and consulting AI on that. But here's where it's undeniably valuable, and not just talking, but actually doing tasks: a) helped me see for example that the US invasion or Iran didn't make Trump a hero for freeing the Iranian people (naive of me to first see), but that there's deeper mechanics at play, with crashing their economy with a targeted play, no current real nuclear threat right now, oil, etc. I was able to see these nuances in a sea of misinformation with politics. That's a pretty real use case. b) AI pulled me out of dangerous situations in Baltimore, helped me solve stressful home repair situations, etc. c) I use Claude Code to apply for jobs for me -> it finds jobs based on my resume, assesses if I qualify, fills out the fields based on what it knows about me, etc. and this has led to a handful of interviews so far, since I started 3 weeks ago. .. Claude Code in particular is quite amazing at task automation, etc. I quite regularly tell it to delete files on my computer, stale, non-needed files, often cache. This is my real experience that has been genuinely useful. Not just talking, but actual task completion. This is only a small list. But would I give my kid AI? heck no. Has it deceived me? Tons of times. But to say this is all just slop and all that misses nuance, and different perspectives. To say these aren't powerful tools is also misguided.

my god, i miss that song mad world .. I haven't thought about that in so long, that was the first song that made me reflect deeply on life as a teen

would be funny if it actually is slop talking about the destruction that slop is doing to our society

@LordFall but strategically that seems like a low reward high cost desperate situation to now anger all these countries in the process, just for targeting a handful of US bases .. I mean to get now not just US and Israel against you, but all these other countries. That can't be that smart?

Gah damn the implications of this are big .. so many countries are getting hit in the process. I have family in Dubai and they're getting hit, and there's nothing I can do about it. Has iran lost their mind to hit so many countries? I understand USA attacked first, and that's also crazy but how are we supposed to make sense of all this?

@Natasha Tori Maru They do seem like open, good people relatively, but idk if I missed something but what's the main purpose of doing podcasts at all? I actually listen to a lot of podcasts, but Leo seems far better off in his main episodes, unless there's some deeper reason to podcasts that I'm missing? opening the minds of the rationalist community or something? lol .. is that why we're doing this?

@Leo Gura Just checked out the episode, don't mean to be critical here, but I thought some feedback could help: - honestly, I felt like the hosts were friction, and I just want to here you go deeper like you do in your episodes - your episodes are great because the audio quality and depth are locked in I think socializing, like you'd do with the hosts gets in the way, or their questioning didn't probe deeper. Idk I only got 20 minutes in. Your main episodes feel like a mind odyssey. The contrast helps me see and appreciate your main episodes more.

I remember in 4th grade I felt like time was slowing down during rare moments. I'd go to the bathroom, sit down, and just feel time slowing down to an abnormal degree. I told my mom and she didn't know what to say. She told her mom, my grandma, and she was like "eh its nothing". It went away though after a year or so. I always wondered what that was. But other things happened to me too. Like last year I went to the beach at night, and it felt like this slight electrifying feeling going through my body. And that happens like after I shower and enter a quiet room. But at the beach that night it happened like 50x. Now I look back and just think okay maybe reality is more than what I'm told it is by everyone, that there are just these anomalies, and that in itself is as weird or normal as all else that's going on that we call normal. But idk

@Leo Gura but how much value do you think is in the new agey space now? or even eastern medicine? I think one time you also said a psychic predicted a few things and they were surprisingly accurate to your knowledge - so Im sensing there has to be a good amount of value in all this? I haven't delved much in these areas but I was planning to over the years to see if theres value. I'll test for myself, but was wondering what your take was. But there's no doubt to me that most are BS'ers. I mean thats human nature in almost every field I see, that most people are either average, liars, fake, exaggerating, etc.

@Hojo lol you might have a point ..