Breakingthewall

Most people who seem normal and do normal things are more insane than you, but their fear of not being accepted is so strong that it keeps them functioning in a seemingly normal way. If you push them and see what's underneath, you'll be surprised. If you are dumb enough and your intensity is low enough, you can adapt your foot to the shoe without it being unbearable.

Thanks and I agree, being able to transcend the self is a breaking of a barrier. It's a necessary step to be able to make this shift in meditation easily. Otherwise, meditation is a bombardment of self-referential thoughts that constantly create the bubble of the self. Breaking the bubble is a necessary first step. I remember the first time this happened to me, while meditating in a park with a little weed. Suddenly, the bubble burst, and reality was fluid, limitless. This lasted for two minutes. Then, you immediately start asking yourself questions, and the bubble returns. But later, you can do it more easily, and at a certain point, your normal state is more open. There has been an essential change; your quality of life has increased by an order of magnitude. But you are still limited by experience. You are the experience that flows. What is this? A flowing experience...it's pleasant, relaxed, not contracted, but you are not in true contact with yourself. There is a wall separating you. Perhaps that is the state of an animal, or the state when you were a child, but if you are honest with yourself, there is always a shadow of dissatisfaction. If you achieve this normally through meditation, you might think that this is the end of the path, and you become non-dualistic and say all the time that there is no self. But if you are insightful, deep down you will know that something is missing. What is it? Is it impossible to know? Why? There is another barrier. Right now, it's hard for me to talk about this because the last time I managed to break through it, even for a moment, was five days ago, and it’s already fading. If you achieve a meditative state absolutely empty of interpretation, your realization is that you are now alone in the infinite, without any foundation, arising as experience like a fluid emerging. It can feel strange and intimidating. If you can maintain that truly empty state , without foundation, without God or anything ,just reality in all its depth, at some point this depth will see itself as unfathomable. Then, reality opens up. What this experience truly is reveals itself . not its form, but its substance. It is something indefinable, but it is what you are. It is total; it is absolute existence arising from the fact of infinity, absolutely free and total. It doesn’t matter if the experience is being an omnipotent god or a almost dead rat , the substance is the same. You are the substance; the form is irrelevant. Everything is contained in that substance; it is your essence and nothing is missing. What you were seeking is this . it is absolutely impossible for there to be anything more because this is everything. You have always been this. There are no questions; it is the total answer. The problem is that this closes again. Well, the problem... or the game. It's addictive to try to decipher the code of the structure of this configuration of reality without falling into traps. Nothing compares to it , no sport, game, or challenge. They are children's games; this is the real game. And this is the end of dissatisfaction. anyway, every time that you get this total openess, something changes in your structure, small changes that makes the experience more relaxed, open, fluid. Then the next opening is not so difficult than the other before

Let's see, if you say that for you the most important thing is the truth, that nothing else matters, that you read spirituality all the time, that you want to reach the bottom of the bottom, the top of the top, the total opening to absolute infinity, to limitless expansion... why do you refuse to open your mind? Are you afraid or something? It seems like a lot. It seems crazy to be hooked on this kind of conversation, but the fact is that no one else in the world is interested in this, which is the only really interesting thing, and those who are interested, except for some rare cases, don't really want to do it. This is the definitive enigma, the most interesting maze that exists, the top of the games. Nothing could be compared.

Yes , for me it's very clear too, that you don't know anything 😘

Sorry, I ve lost my patience because talking to Someone here is exhausting, as he refuses to understand anything, he refuses even to argue and clarify, he just wants to win. It's stupid argue with him, but the text of Adams was interesting and I wanted to talk about it, about what's conciousness, etc. I think that this talk in the correct direction is like a meditation that can free the mind

It's exhausting talking with you guys, you are like walls, and made from steel. Have a nice time inside your box, sure it's comfortable, because seems obvious that you don't want to get out of them 😘

I haven't argued anything, I've just pointed out a reality. It's surprising that you don't see it. But maybe anyone could understand it.

I really don't understand this obsession with appearing condescending and talking nonsense. I analyzed Adams's text because I wanted to talk about it. Thanks for the advice on meditation. Any advice on diet, sex, or work?

I guess that there are a lot of awakened persons, but Socrates wasn't one.

I'll explain it to you again because it seems your mind is full of contradictory ideas. The thing is very simple: forget about all those concepts of here and now, consciousness, love, God, free will, etc. Look, the essence of reality is limitlessness. You think you know what that is, but you don't. Never, since birth, have you tasted it for a single second, believe me. To taste it, you must be it, but due to the energetic structure of how reality is expressing itself now, that is, your current structure, you can't be that, since there are limits that close you in. You can break them and be your true, total nature. But then those limits, which are solid, will return. Then you will remember all that about infinity, but you won't be able to be it again. But if it happened once, it's because you were weakening those limits. So it could happen again, and again. Each time, it will become more obvious what limits you, and you can refine it, but they are real, genetic barriers, extremely strong. You have to be absolutely honest with yourself and see them, and also be willing to let go of absolutely everything. Being without any foundation, truly being infinite right now.

You can arrive to the definitive answer about what are you, and it's something absolutely clear and real. It's the end of the path to "enlightenment" or as you want to call it. Then there is still a lot of work to do because the door that opened get closed again. You have to understand what closes and polish it. A real change will happen.

I'm telling you that there is an answer. It's not that I'm walking in circles, it's that if you walk straight you will find the answer, but if you get stuck in any trap you will stay there. The answer is out of the mind, you have to break it.

What you say is true because you are consciousness, but that doesn't mean reality is consciousness. You are consciousness as form, since without form there is no consciousness. Consciousness is form, it is movement. In the absence of movement, for example, deep sleep, as you mentioned, there is no consciousness. Consciousness restarts when movement restarts. So, if there is no consciousness without movement, is consciousness reality? We mustn't confuse the absolute with reality. There are many absolute things, because they have no opposite. Consciousness, intelligence, movement, love. They are manifestations of reality, not reality. To remain there is to remain within a limit. We must break it. Reality includes the absence, but it's always nullified by the presence, but this doesn't means that the presence is the reality. This is the last mirage. Reality is nothing and being nothing is everything blah blah as you know. Being stuck in any something is that, being stuck. Something or nothing are irrelevant, what you are is beyond them

There is a question, what I am. There is an answer. You could becoming fully concious of what you are (and this doesn't mean that you are consciousness, but that you are now aware of what you are and weren't before, but you were anyway). What you are is the absence of limits, but you can't become aware of that by knowing it; you have to be it, and to be it, you have to break all limits. The absence of limits is total plenitude, and to open yourself to it, you have to take an action: break all your limits. There is no other possibility.

Because you could become a slave. I'd prefer to avoid that About conciousness. Saying that reality is conciousness is the same that saying that reality is form. Form is that arises due the relative movement, and the relative movement is absolute, because the absolute stillness is not. Then reality is movement or form? No, reality has the potential to movement and form, and as there is the potential, there is form, always. Because no form is never. Same than conciousness. But this doesn't implies that reality is form or conciousness, it's the possibility of form and conciousness. Reality is a step above, it's beyond conciousness and form, even conciousness and form are reality. A manifestation of reality

For me conciousness is a word that means being concious of anything. For example Leo use to say: increase your level of consciousness. This means be more conciouss, for example, you can't be concious about that harming animals is wrong, then in some point you become concious of that. Conciousness is awareness, it's an attribute that you have. Reality could be unconscious of itself, because reality doesn't need to be concious. Conciousness appears in reality, but as it appears it's an absolute, because reality has the potential of consciousness. But reality Is not conciousness, saying that is a lock, a limit.

The reality is absence of limits. You can't name the reality with a positive name as conciousness, it's an hindrance, a barrier. You could say maybe that reality is absolute potential or absolute being, but even that contains a small hindrance. Btw, what means "conciousness" exactly?

It's sad to have to read those shit, sorry to say. Try to be mature and talk without your brilliant ego. Can you? The point is talk about the truth, not a competition

What is conciousness? Reality arises. Nobody is creating it. If you say: you are creating the reality, it's just a false assessment.

Great reading, I enjoyed every word. That's the attitude, sharp as a knife

I've read it a bit in Google, and it sounds good, but there are two things it repeats that are confusion: reality is consciousness, and you created reality. These two statements are a lock. What is consciousness? Is it something? Where does that word point? And you created reality. Who? So, you are not reality; it's a creation of you. Only those 2 statement are a huge hindrance. If you want opening yourself to the real freedom you have to remove all the barriers. Creation and conciousness are mental barriers. The mind has to be absolutely empty. This doesn't mean "silence", as Adams also says. He said many times that what you are is "silence". This is another hindrance. Empty means diaphanous, free of barriers. There can be thought and absolute freedom same time, thought is not so important, what is important are the barriers. The barriers are not created by the thought, is the thought that is created by the barriers. Repress the thoughts is not the point, silence can be full of energetic barriers. Anyway, congrats for your progress, sounds genuine. Just realize the traps, there are many. Conciousness and creation are traps, walls in the mind.

Then, for a moment, what you are manifests totally. It is total plenitude, what you were searching for. You were searching for yourself. You were lost, wandering in a desert. Every second of your existence was incomplete, and that incompleteness vibrated with an anxious vibration. Then, immediately, that opening closes, and you instinctively perceive what it is closing, what your structure is, and how it closes. How much distortion, anxiety, need for acceptance, fear, projection into the future, even the immediate future, is in you. You are very impure (I mean me). impurity closes, and there are tons of impurity. It's possible being pure? Has to be absolute, without stain🥱😭 if not, the self is like an armored door Seeing this allows you to begin to focus and little by little the openess start to be more normal, but still rare, even partial openess is full time if you don't get total openess not far on time things start to get dark. Only openenss is essential, more than anything else . It's a long process that I suppose never ends, although some say it does, that there comes a moment when your openness is total all the time. It seems impossible to me; human nature is very dense. But who knows? Reality is always in motion. If it moves in that direction, its movement is slow but constant, Inevitable.

Btw, If you seek total openness, there's something you'll find sooner, or at least in my experience: total absence, absolute emptiness. It's a very difficult experience that shrinks your soul, squeezes you, and before you can look away, you've seen absolute horror. This, for me, is typical of experiences with 5 meo, but also just meditation. Ultimately, reality is empty, lacking everything, dead, absolute death. This realization occurs because one last movement is missing. there is something in the reality, there is you. What are you then? Who observes the empty reality? Are you alone in cosmic solitude observing the empty reality? Who observes? You are not observing; you are the reality. Then it opens. You are everything; there are no limits. The cup is absolutely full.

So bored talking alone, I couldn't

Yes, it exists, but do you know what is? It's difficult, because you see a hand, not the infinity. The hand is veiling the fact of that right now the infinity is infinite and you are that. You only see a hand, but you see it flat. It's depth is unfathomable, and from the fact that you are unfathomable you are. And "you are" is infinite. It doesn't means that its something that is not going to finish, it means that right now it's infinite. The experience is like a screen that is flat, but it's absolutely alive because it has not bottom. That's the point, that the absolute life of this moment is because it has not bottom. The life springs of the source of having not bottom, the totality of the limitlessness is absolute life, not just a hand, is the absolute infinity alive because it's everything. If you are totally open to it, to what you are, you get it, that's everything, nothing else is missing, nothing else could be.