Breakingthewall

The main factor that makes real meditation impossible is the need for self-definition, for identification. This need is inherent to the human being; it is a mechanism of social cohesion that allows the group to function as a single entity. Real meditation is not achieved through techniques, but through stepping out of the psychological matrix of identity. The real work is not in the practice of meditation, but in self-exposure, coherence, and integrity. Loyalty to yourself as absolute value. When the psychological axis shifts from the need for self-definition and validation to integrity and transparency, the mind becomes silent. Only then does meditation make sense, as one gains access to the primordial layers of the psyche: the drive for permanence, the fear of harm and disappearance, the need for control and other bases of the human psyche Directly perceiving these underlying patterns is what eventually allows the psyche to open. “Openness” means the absence of limits. Limits define, and create a sense of control and security. The absence of limits is initially terrifying, unsustainable for more than a few seconds. The system automatically contracts again. Anyone seeking liberation must seek this rupture. At some point, it becomes more tolerable, until it is perceived as freedom. Identity is then replaced by effortless openness, as it is revealed to be a mental process. not false, but not fundamental, not absolute. Openness is not an “open mind,” but the fact of being perceiving itself without mental limitations. It is something simple and, at the same time, complete. Not definable because there are not limits. This is the state where life becomes beauty, perception becomes deep and the heart becomes open.

Yes, any conversation, like this one, is made by thoughts. Thoughts are the structured expression of what we are, then it's very important to be able to understand clear where our thoughts come from and how they are a tool of closure or openess. For example, it's important to see in oneself if the flow of thoughts is defensive, oriented to keep a self image and transmit it to others, or open, oriented to expression of the reality that you are without filter. Also, oriented to real understanding or to defend some structures that your psyche needs for it's stability.

Yes, that's what's usually said when talking about meditation, but I see a separation there between you and your thoughts that will always close you off, create a limit. There isn't a separate "you" that observes the thoughts and decides whether to take them seriously or not; rather, that "you" that seems to observe the thoughts is part of the mental process. The key is to dissolve the separation between you and your thoughts. If the thought "I am anxious" arises, as you said, it's because the emotional structure that you are right now is manifesting as that thought. The fact that you try to ignore it is also part of how that emotional structure manifests, and it won't take you out of the process. The key is to be fully aware of yourself as an emotional structure, to perceive how you are vibrating right now, your subconscious fears. To make the subconscious fully conscious. Thoughts are not the cause but the consequence. If I think, "Oh shit, I could get sick and die," trying to ignore that thought will only increase the gap between the apparent center that believes it's in control and your reality as a whole, which is expressed in that thought. The key is to enter the emotional current that causes that thought to arise, to look directly at the fear of death, rejection, and loneliness, without a filter. Then you see that mental activity is the expression of that emotional structure, which also includes creative desire, openness to life and others, and a desire for deep and real connection with others and life. If you don't look directly at the yin, the yang remains dormant, buried. If you look your fears without filter, eventually you will integrate them little by little, then in some moments your mental/emotional structure gets totally aligned and limits fall. It's useless to try to evoque being unlimited being limited because, precisely, you are limited. Then you would construct a limited version.

As I see it, having a completely silent mind doesn't necessarily mean the meditation is as deep as it could. The barriers the mind creates by default manifest not only in thoughts but also in contraction, closure, separation. This contraction is primarily fear, and this fear exists because reality is, in many ways, a real threat. For me, the difficult part is getting that barrier made of fear to dissolve. Being totally present is a point, really it's the state that should be by default, but the dissolution of the barrier is a challenge, not easy at all for me. Even if I'm totally aware of it, it persist

Imo If you are really detached of your thoughts they stop. Thoughts don't appear and you follow or don't follow them, thoughts are you in the form of a thought. If a thought appears it's because you create that structure because you need it.

What do you mean with lack of interest in your direct experience? Sure you must want to perceive as deep as you can, but not conceptually or structured ideas but see the process that are happening now. To be able to start to see those processes you should empty your mind of ideas easily

Sure, when humans drop the identity and everything is love, and history would finish. Before this moment seems difficult

It seems like the only way to normalize the situation in your country, doesn't it? But it seems that many people would see it as sacrilege, to give up sacred land. An the Palestinian neither want it, they would ask impossible demands. The situation in your country seems without solution

I don't know what Enlightenment is like for others or what levels there are. For me, it's about achieving the complete dissolution of emotional contraction and the total dissolution of mental structures during moments of meditation. The essential difference is between never having done this and doing it once. Your entire mental/emotional configuration changes, but the change doesn't happen in a single moment; rather, it initiates a chain reaction. The human mental-emotional system is dynamic, constantly changing, and experiences of openness direct that change toward openness. At first, having a moment of total openness is very challenging, brief, and strange, a mystical experience. Later, it becomes normal, but that doesn't mean pain doesn't hurt, business doesn't worry, or conflicts don't destabilize. The difference is that nothing is seen as essential, not even life itself, so emotional intensity becomes manageable. Identification weakens until it becomes irrelevant, self-image takes a back seat, human relationships become deeper, and new fields of perception open up. The point is that living in a closed state is very limited because there are a lot of dark points, you can't really face death, you absolutely need acceptance, , then your system construct a lot of barriers , projections, identities, that encloses the perception, makes it superficial. About the baseline, its usually limited, but the limits are perceived as relative, just something to operate. It's relatively easy to have a moment of openess, but if there are stressing circumstances i get absorbed in the emotional reaction. It's something programmed, I don't see the point in becoming a monk that doesn't suffer. There is no problem with suffering, it's just a human impulse to move forward. About practices, I did a lot of meditation, psychedelics, but the point is not what you do but understanding what you have to do, what is the change that you are looking for. It's not about knowing, realizing, having mystical experiences, samadhi, anything. It's about removing barriers, and for this you have to see those barriers, understand what they are. Its difficult when you are inside them.

Enlightenment is something very simple yet very difficult. It is the dissolution of the inner boundaries of the psyche. Boundaries are defenses, created by evolution given the reality of life in general and human life in particular. These defenses are especially subtle and powerful in the social game, where acceptance equates to life and rejection to death (when humans were tribal). Their force is enormous, and facing them head-on without fear or avoidance is a challenge. The barriers of the psyche are not thoughts; rather, thoughts emanate from them. They are real neurological structures that activate when they connect with the situations for which they were created. Behind them lies the primordial barrier: the fear of death, the need to remain. Gazing into the great abyss of total dissolution and opening oneself to it is the ultimate challenge. Enlightenment is not about knowing things, realizing what you are, being consciousness, etc., but about opening your energetic configuration by releasing all barriers and being without limits. only for a moment at first, gradually building up to sustain that openness until it becomes your reality

Sure that there are certainly differences in the nuances, but essentially, the real difference would be if a party had the formation of a Palestinian state as a principle. This would clash head-on with the far right. It wouldn't be a normal ideological clash but a potential cause of civil war. But on the other hand, if a Palestinian state is never established, what's the point? To continue like now forever?

Yes, for example your memory can die, and it's real when it is. You could say that reality it's always what you are, with or without memories, but would you renounce to all your memories? Don't seem easy

When you awake after sleeping there is continuity, but when you die, you die. Reality remains, but you, the human structure, doesn't. Well, some talk about different dimensions, you never know, but it's not relevant imo, the point is the openess now.

But this is still a self. An interconnected one, but a self. No self is almost impossible being human because there is sense of yourself. Maybe in some cases, a mystic in total trance who in that moment doesn't know that he's a human in trance, but that disconnection of the architecture of the self is very rare and impossible in most of the cases, because it's written in the brain, real neurological structures create by evolution

According to physics, any local system is composed of energy (the capacity to produce change) and information (structure, the relationship between states that makes that event what it is). Energy is neither created nor destroyed in our universe; it is transformed. Information is also never lost; it changes, but the new structure derives from the previous one. An apple and a black hole are not fundamentally separate; they are two structures that occur within the same global system (the universe), different interactions of the same fields. When the apple crosses the event horizon, its energy and information merge with that of the black hole, but it never disappears. From a broad perspective, it is simply a flow of energy and information. The black hole is not "nothing", it conserves all the energy and information that anything that falls in it.

There is no creator god who designs what appears; that would be impossible because such a god would be a limited entity separate from its creation. What is called god, or reality, is limitlessness itself; this is equivalent to being. To be means to appear, an affirmative quality, the fact of being. Reality always is, without origin, since there are no limits. This being manifests itself in constant relative change. From this unlimited relative change, forms arise.

What truth, being someone who can't face life and use spirituality for evasion?

This is the forum of spiritual bypassing. Nobody is interested in real work, just in some relief and ego inflation. But that's not only here , that's spirituality in general . Believing I'm consciousness, I'm god, I'm creating my suffering because I want, etc. Spirituality is like anything else, who sells is who says what people want to listen.

@Nivsch What is exactly the polarization in Israel? The progressives can't do anymore very different than the radicals. It's impossible to dismantle the settlements, then what they could do? Maybe stop the expansion is the only real difference

Information never disappears, it transforms. Perhaps it no longer resembles a box of apples, but it reconfigures the mass and structure of the black hole. What the box of apples is at a quantum level, all the stable interactions between fields that create that shape become the black hole, or the radiation it emits. Then the reality that constituted the box is not lost, but the specific way in which it was organized is.

A post coherent and intelligent. Long time without reading any.

So, if the doctor tells you tomorrow that you have brain cancer, that's meaningless. Well, no. There is not a you who witness the thoughts, the thoughts are the frequency in that you are vibrating now. That spiritual idea about being the observer never works , it just created a duality between the observer and the thoughts. It's a kind of evasion that falls when the life gets serious.

Density isn't a thing; it's a metaphor for a way of functioning, operating, being in which you're trapped by your primary emotional impulses: the need for acceptance, to belong, to be liked, to be loved; the feeling of humiliation through comparison; the need for value and power. When you're caught up in it, you don't see it. You might think you're very spiritual or even enlightened, when what you're really doing is changing the object, not the need. Meditation is the clear observation of all your processes, without deceiving yourself or judging them, seeing them as something mechanical. It's about understanding what they are directly, being one with them, and in this way, deactivating the emotional mechanisms that keep you trapped.

People often harm others in self-defense. They perceive aggression and respond with aggression. Perhaps the aggression is imagined; perhaps their system perceives aggression from all humans. Another reason for aggression is to gain a benefit, whether material or emotional. Some people find that aggression generates a feeling of power that is sufficient motivation for them.

Someone who, to satisfy their desires, doesn't care about destroying a child's emotional stability is, in my opinion, absolute garbage, and a shot to the back of the head, Chinese style, would be the simplest and most effective solution.