Breakingthewall

That song is seemingly an empowerment anthem, but if you listen to it closely, you'll see it's a rather tragic cry from someone very scared, trying to look powerful while feeling broken inside. It's a very sad song of helplessness, loneliness, sorrow, and the need to lie in order to survive in the world.

God doesn't want, God is. Wanting implies election, then it's relative. Being is not an election, it's inevitable, it's the synonym of unlimited. God doesn't need to love itself because existence itself and so called absolute love are not different. There is no graduation, it's total. The only point is that we are closed to it due out human structure by default

There is no true self and ego, there is fear that creates closure and absence of fear that allows the openess. You can't tell the fear to go, you just can look at it directly, be humble enough to allow the essential fear to manifest in the surface until you integrate it and there is no fear anymore, it's just survival instinct, a facet of you, not something external to you that encloses you. Then you see the obvious, that what you are can't die because what you are is the life appearing as you, not you with a life inside that can die.

Absolutely, you totally nailed without deviation. The purpose of existence is existing. But this, being, implies everything, it's the absolute. If you are open to this absolute truth it's not like you know something, it's that you are everything. It's not like acceptation, it's like extasy of life. Right now you are, and this is total, It is the Hallelujah, the Holy Grail, it is the face of God looking you in the face and realizing that you are the same: existence existing. It is the unfathomable depth dancing, the total light shining. What purpose could be higher than being? It is impossible, since that purpose would only be another facet of being. There are no differences, everything is, and being is everything. If you open yourself up to it, you are alive

Exactly, it's all a matter of degrees of openness. Openness is not manifested in understanding things, but in how deeply it reality penetrates you, what your level of protection is between yourself and reality, how impermeable you are. The goal is to completely eliminate that barrier, to be one with reality, in a fluid state, without separation. For me, that state closes when I'm around people because I tune into the frequency of the person I'm speaking with, I try to speak their language. It would be very interesting to talk to a so-called enlightened person in real life, but I would be careful with my conclusios, there are narcissistic people where, to see behind the facade they have built, you have to get to know them in some depth. Relying on the vibes people project is misleading because what you are assessing is the feeling those people create in you, and there are true con artists out there. They are so good at it that they don't even know they are scammers. Of course, anyone could notice that living in the misery is a shit and that billions of people life like slaves. Money is survival, possibility of reproduction, possiblity of health, of time, of freedom. Money is the fluid of human society, get out of poverty is very difficult 😂😂Too late. i used to go on party from Friday to Sunday night without stop, wtf. Going to clubs with techo to dance without pause , then to after hours that open at 6, dancing like giving everything and talking with crazy people, then go with these people that I just met to terraces in center, always cocaine and MDMA around, then again to a club of techo, then another after, another crazy people, and then Sunday to the terraces drinking beers until Sunday night. Just writing this I feel sick😂. Was like, the thing that I like most in life is doing this retarded plan, was like I felt enjailed and with that shit I felt free. Then I found a girlfriend who was in the same plan but addicted type and was a shit so big that after breaking I never went to a club, never fun drugs or drinking alcohol again. But sometimes a bit of fun is not bad. Really I loved.

Suffering is necessary to break out of the social matrix. Except in rare cases, human inertia will cause any individual to focus on adapting, prevailing socially, succeeding in reproduction, and living a successful life. The forces driving this are atavistic, stemming from the origin of life, and for someone to step off that wheel, a disruptor is needed. Suffering is that disruptor.

Well if the possibilities are infinite any big number is the same than any small number. If the possibilities are infinite, the odds of this universe to exist are infinite.

Thoughts are schematic structures to describe the reality. Thoughts are the reality itself in the form of a thought but some are true, other false. One true: reality is One false: self is an illusion. Why the first one is true? Because avoid any contradictions, any falsehood. Why the second one is false? Because it's contradictory. Affirming that self is an illusion implies categorising the self as illusory Vs real, but this implies that this categorization is real, being this categorization an structure that happens in the self. Do you see the difference?

Enlightenment is being open to the total light that reality is, to the boundless absolute that it is. It is impossible to communicate; it is life in its totality, yet it is not a "thing" or a "someone", it is the complete absence of boundaries. I have such moments occasionally, but most of the time I don’t, nor do I want to. There is human work to be done, a human life to unfold and express. Why? I don’t know; that’s just how it presents itself. there are people who are in totally open state all time? Maybe those yogis, it's a possibility, then maybe they have a special presence, and if you are interacting with them you get some inspiration, they drag you to the openess

Totally true Sure because from an open perspective the universe is not indifferent, it is, and that's everything. Can't be indifferent to you because you are that, you are not separated from universe, you are precisely the universe, then "indifferent" is meaningless. if you loose the contraction that keeps you closed, you perceive your self as unlimited, and the alive quality of the existence manifest itself clearly. It's not indifferent or concerned, it is , period I don't know if being open to the absolute is love, seems that love implies two, total openess to the absolute is just absence of barriers between you and the absolute being, maybe that's love according to them

I should read him more deeply, agree, but I remember have read that quote. About the video call, i don't think I could talk deeply about this topic in a conversation. The point for me is not saying a single world that is not correct, and for that I have to be in a state of openess, like meditation. If I have an appointment at 4 to discuss about the topic would be impossible because anything of those ideas wouldn't have any sense. Talking about this topic has to be direct, without the filter of the learned ideas

Maybe those saints have a very intense or pure presence, and they could be really saints absolutely opened to the unlimited without any human hindrance, but then they explain it a cryptic way, and it's very frustrating listening them for people who is interested in spirituality because what they say seems meaningless , intentionally mysterious, or at least is what I felt when I listened ramana

The formless is not something without form, is the absolute fact of being, that always appears as a form because "appearing" means differentiation. The self is form perceiving itself, but it's also formless perceiving itself, because any form is the formless manifested. The formless is in the form, the form is in the formless. It's not a twisted game of words, it's obvious. Every form is. Being appears because not appearing not appears. How could be otherwise?

The universe is not indifferent to us. from an unlimited perspective we are the universe. There is not other, nothing above you from an open perspective. From a closed perspective there are others and the universe is not indifferent, it makes you exist as a form, all the movement of the universe is perfectly coordinated to makes you exist right now.

@Wilhelm44 a question for you or Newman. Do you perceive right now, without the slightest doubt, that what you are can't die? That it's absolutely impossible, not something that you Intuit but a real perception that's absolutely obvious. Same obvious than the fact of you existing? Another: do you or Newman perceive the unlimited life that is the fact of being now? Not unlimited because it can't end, unlimited in the dimension of depth. That this, now, is the unlimited depth that lives, and it's life is total, not big but absolute.

For you, or for Newman, the aspect of the self that represents a human moving along a timeline is an illusion. It is not; it is the mental representation of a reality, a predictive system that integrates the past, the present, and a hypothetical future in order to navigate the ocean of possibilities. It is, fundamentally, the essence of the human form. Newman says: "Free yourself from that! Leave the future to God!". all while living in a house and going to the supermarket to buy food. I don’t know if you can see the level of idiocy this implies. It seems like a joke.

If it's not real, why 100% of humans that have existed have seen it as real? Are all them fools, except you and Jim Newman? It's a possibility Anyway, real Vs illusion are categories, then mental structures, and who works with mental structures is a a facet of the self, the logical mind.

That’s a good explanation. Here’s mine: the "self" is a system, a piece of software, if you will, created within the human mind. It functions as an interface for the exchange of information between a human’s internal and external worlds. It generates various levels of representation regarding that individual’s position within their social and material environment, and it maps out a temporal trajectory along which the person moves, constantly seeking the best potential outcomes (for instance, it would rather be the tribal chief with three wives than be crucified, that’s just how the "self" operates). At its core, this software, which we share with complex animals, is based on the representation of the interaction between the individual and reality; this manifests as "I am," or consciousness. Non-dualists argue that the "self" must disappear. But, first of all, that’s impossible; and second, even if it were to happen, if there were no longer any representation of a "self," a temporal timeline, and so on, that wouldn’t constitute "enlightenment." A three-month-old baby is not "enlightened." I can recall quite clearly what it was like when I was under two years old; it’s a clean, pure state, but a limited one. By default, the psyche constructs barriers built out of fear. Enlightenment is the dissolution of those barriers, not the dissolution of the "self." Is the self that gets enlightened, not enlightenment is the finish of the self. When the barriers fall, the self recognizes itself as unlimited, then the self knows that it is the reality being a self , that is, the reality observing itself, and it knows exactly what it is as total reality, it's the unlimited. So the unlimited sees itself taking the form of a self. Those ideas about the unreality or illusory nature of the self are ideas of the self that happens in the comparative closed level, and anyone who adopts those ideas in their spiritual seek will build a closure, because temporality, mortality, feeling of incompleteness, are not a mistake, are real as long you are a human.

What supposedly is the self according non duality?

A human sistem or a society that is corrupted or fake is precisely the norm. The other possibility is what is called utopia, and don't exist.

It's no competition with the yogi, it's just that Ramana maharshi is a mess as a teacher, he's useless. He's full of contradictions, and the biggest bullshit of all: the teaching by presence. Look at this: as I'm peaceful holy enlightened I'm going to transmit you enlightenment , then when you ask me any question, I will look at you in silence 8 minutes and then I will say: namaste. Then you will get so impressed that maybe you will get enlightened or anything better. And then I will say that I can enlighten a cow and that my mother did mashamadi and she is out of the wheel of reincarnations. Imo logic is better, enlightenment is the breaking of the limits of the psyche, not anything else. Then can be defined, explained and reasoned, if you have an IQ over 80

Opposite, read again because it's essential. Try to understand or if you don't agree explain why, then we can talk about the topic What I said was this: "The point is being open to the unlimited nature of this, not knowing that there is only this" What I meant is that knowing that there is only "this", or "one", or "self illusory ", are realizations of the structured mind. Are flat, not alive, are an structure. Being open to the unlimited is not an structure, is being open to what reality is, to it's quality, to its power and harmony that arises from the fact of being no limit,.to the unlimited life that arises from the openess. It's looking your true face, what you are. It's not "someone", it's unlimited, open, but this implies everything. Then you will understand that ultimately anything is the unlimited appearing as a possibility that is possible, but understanding this is not important, what is important is being open to what you are because otherwise you are exiled in the dead desert of the limited

Because knowing that the self is illusory instead of real is knowing that the self is a) and is not b). Knowing any structure, any category, is a structure of the self. Enlightenment is the breaking of any structure, the openess of yourself to the absolute. The absolute is unlimited, period. Its not real and the self false, the self is an structure that arises in the unlimited because it's possible, it's not real or illusory, it just is. Then if you categorize the self as unreal, it's the self labelling itself as unreal. It's a barrier that encloses you, a total mistake if your goal is enlightenment because keep you inside of the structure

Sure he's true and he's a spiritual man, I'm not. But I have a mind much more sharp than his mind, then I understand what is the mind, what is the self and what is the absolute, because I can open myself to the absolute totally more or less easily, but in the most part of the day I'm trying to improve in business, dating girls looking for a girlfriend, learning economy, doing sports and trying to give my best in this life, what's not easy because everything trends to the superficial, narcissist and not alive life If he's speaking the content is essential, I don't care about his aura, maybe he emanates an aura like holy because he's autistic. The topic of enlightenment is totally clear and clearly explainable, you don't need to look a saint, the absolute is everything, not only the hermits who meditate whole day. Those ideas like: you can't say the absolute, etc, are bullshit to appear special. You neither can say the colour red, except to anyone who already has seen the colour red. The absolute is the unlimited , and the unlimited is because it's unlimited, and you are that, the unlimited manifesting as a Knower, then the absolute knowing itself. Where is the problem? Totally simple, but doing it is not so simple, you have to breaking your limits.

Yes but it's a mistake that leads to closure. Sure he's enlightened and all that, being enlightened is not so big deal, it's our true nature, it's obvious. What is not so simple is create a map without mistakes that don't lead other people to dead ends. This "self" of Ramana maharshi is a huge mistake that will confuse anyone who reads him trying to understand enlightenment