Artsu
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The problem I have with study is that it represents a yellow way of being, and as a coral I have moved past that.
I studied as turquoise and I didn't perform as well as when I was yellow. It wasn't as great a fit.
As turquoise I was more interested in typology and spirituality. I went through the mergings at the same time.
Also I wanted to get an IQ test but I feel this may favour a yellow way of thinking. I don't think spirituality really translates into IQ.
As part of mystery A I developed my understanding of synchronicity, and in mystery B I focused on good and evil.
Now for mystery C.
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I am currently on the verge of mystery C, which is Te for me.
I plan to study as the transcendent Te and Si are developing. When the standard Te and Si were developing I pulled off good results with study so I am hoping for a repeat.
I will be studying mathematics and statistics.
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I mark my reaching coral and the mysteries with the one experience.
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So we go up the SS index from most concrete to most abstract as we develop.
The intuitive levels usually aren't even reached.
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Elevator of enlightenment
Mah'zute Se
Dar'yu Si
Uther Fe
Fu'masta Te
Self and society Fi
Earth and cosmos Ti
Mystery A and B Ne
Mystery C and D Ni
See above.
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Spiral dynamics
Purple pre cognitive
Red Se
Blue Si and Fe
Orange Te
Green Fi
Yellow Ti
Turquoise Ne
Coral Ni
This refers to the themes at play at each level. People of any type may be at any level, but type may influence level preference.
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The 8 cognitive functions develop alongside the elevator of enlightenment.
Mah'zute 1 and 2
Dar'yu 3 and 4
Uther 5 and 6
Fu'masta 7 and 8
Self 1
Society 2
Earth 3
Cosmos 4
Mystery A-D 5-8
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I am INFJ, Se/Si subtype.
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I reached fu'masta at 14, self at 18, society at 20, earth at 21, cosmos at 23, mystery A at 25 and mystery B at 28, and now I am entering mystery C.
Mystery D may be the last level.
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I have determined that I got to green when I was 11, yellow at 14, turquoise at 18 and coral at 25.
Coral may be the last level.
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This blog will be for discussing spiral dynamics and the elevator of enlightenment and personality type, and how they relate to me personally.
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I'm an MBTI expert and I'm not trolling. You're the one who doesn't know what they're doing.
This forum is fucked.
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1 minute ago, Carl-Richard said:Lol how many posts have you read from me?
Enough to infer your dominant function.
You might be ISFJ but the Si dominance is clear.
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Carl is Si dominant, look at the way he starts posts.
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If there IS a correlation between horizontal and vertical typology, I would say that Ne types are more likely to be at a higher level, so there is SOME truth to spiral dynamics.
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I've developed my own vertical typology model, similar to Pod'lair's elevator of enlightenment.
I will make a thread about it soon.
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I just looked at the stereotypes that spiral dynamics holds, which is not real vertical typology by the way, and it divides up as follows:
Red: Se
Blue: Si
Orange: Te
Green: Fe
Yellow: Ne+Ti
Turquoise: Ne+Fi
I'm not sure where Ni fits in. I'll come back to that later.
That means that spiral dynamics is a typist model that posits a superiority as in:
N>F>T>S and Ji>Je.
Scrap this model and pick a real vertical typology model.
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I have to break my 777 post count for this thread.
Typology, both horizontal and vertical, are my areas of expertise.
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If you're talking about spiral dynamics as a political typology then I have no idea. But if you're talking about spiral dynamics for its legitimate vertical typology component, then the answer is this:
Vertical and horizontal typology don't really correlate. They influence each other, so an INFJ turquoise will look very different to an ESTJ turquoise, but any correlation is slight in terms of which types are at which levels.
More to come.
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4 hours ago, Carl-Richard said:LOL. I took the test myself and it was garbage hahaha. SD cannot be evaluated through a standarized test.
Yeah anyone can say they relate to something, but do they really understand it?
An SD test could be created, but it would be more like an IQ test than a personality assessment.
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I spent a lot of time in orange just seeing what was out there in terms of my interests, and trying to determine the best of the best (in things like music and philosophy).
When you go past orange, things will really change. It's a whole new chapter of life. Then you will experience transcendence.
So go on a search for the highest information. You already have some of it given that you're on this site.
And importantly, it's your journey, not ours. You will feel within yourself what you are meant to be doing.
You don't have to love a negative situation. Rather, love will pull you through the negative situation. Love, faith. And so on.
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Most of most groups are probably conformist/conventional.
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Just now, louhad said:It is very important to keep in mind that people are the way they are as a result of their environment.
Partly.
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15 minutes ago, soos_mite_ah said:I think it also shows what happens when you don't fully integrate into a stage and therefore still have aspects from the lower stages that you haven't worked through.
There was this really interesting study that I read about a year ago. With the homeless man and his dog example, studies have actually shown that homeless people tend to take really good care of their dogs. Unlike house pets, the dogs get a lot of exercise and time to mess around outside. As far as food goes, the dogs are typically well fed because the homeless person caring for the dog sees the dog as a part of him/her self, as a way of holding on to life and having a form of connection. The reason why people feel sorry for the dog and not the person is because the dog is seen as more helpless in the situation whereas the person is seen as someone who had a choice and made the wrong ones. It has a lot to do with how people see the poor and the homeless as bad people who made bad choices rather than people who had terrible life circumstances due to structural issues. There is a lot of orange in this phenomenon when it comes to seeing people who become victim to capitalism as unworthy of survival.
"Birds have nests, and foxes have dens, but the son of man has no where to lay his head."
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I meditated heavily for a brief while. Now i can relate to what you say about entering the meditative state very quickly.
I now meditate for shorter times. Mindfulness is more used to combat negative emotions like anxiety, and these are less than they used to be.
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I have to keep in mind, that even if I'm at coral, part of me exists at yellow still.
Yellow study isn't so bad.