Seraphim

Nice to see that Gary Weber made it. That state of no thoughts is a must, otherwise the I-thought is still alive and larping that it's enlightened.

Spiritual transmissions should be the fastest and easiest way. That's when a spiritual teacher sends energy to you which you can feel physically in your body and which lets you feel the enlightened state or clears away the blockages and makes you enlightened.

My beliefs are very "new age"-like. You know like the kind of spiritual teachings you would get from a channeler, medium, etc. And I'm starting to lose faith in the system of incarnation and human experience, all the suffering that humanity goes through, all so that our higher selves can evolve and eventually ascend and eventually unify with god, which also makes god evolve, that's the theory. I'm starting to think that it's not worth it, and not okay to put humans through this, because even though we are god in a sense, we are still trapped in this place, doomed to suffer. Our higher selves and spirit guides will put us through anything, it's like even though they love us we don't get anything from that love, they just use us. You know how there are 3 factions on the other side and in the higher dimensions? The middle path faction, which is what our higher selves all belong to. The dark faction. And the light faction. I'm starting to feel like I'm aligned with the light faction now, instead of the middle path. Point out my delusions and set me on the right path again. Tell me what my spirit guides will tell me when I meet them on the other side.

Your experience depends on your level of consciousness. You know the phrase "everything is the self"? That's how some people experience this world, it's just the self (the absolute) everywhere.

Yea you could be right, since if we are inside a time-based-reality, the beings in the higher dimensions who live outside of time would always be able to access this reality and explore it. Once this was created, there is no un-creating it. Good, someone finally said something that my spirit guides would tell me. They are there, but choosing to not help because the people involved in the event are allowed to use their free will, it's a co-creation, and they want the people to learn lessons. Everything is for our enlightenment, whether it's in this life or in future lives. That's how they see it, which is cold, but in their defense, our higher selves are right here with us, feeling all the pain we feel from our point of view. Well I'm still missing a lot of information, so my opinion on the system can still change. True, we don't seem to be able to choose our thoughts. And yes it's not the body that chooses what the body does, it's sentience/awareness. But that's still free will, and our actions matter, otherwise all of this would be pointless and wouldn't have been created. Yes that's what the buddhists believe. A buddha is not afraid to keep incarnating here. About hell, the new agers believe that the only people who end up in hell are those who really believe in hell and who believe they deserve to go there, but it's not forever, it's just a temporary experience to learn from. Is it from one of Leo's videos? Do you have a link to a website/article/video I can look at?

That would be helpful if my problem was unhappiness. But I'm dealing with an intellectual/philosophical question here, and it needs an intellectual answer. My knowledge feels like a memory, it was awakened in me after I studied some of the new age teachings, is how it feels, so to stop believing in it I would need some good arguments. Your teachers may act like they don't have any beliefs and that they are not the body, but in their daily life they have many beliefs that they act on, including in a sense the belief that they are the body. So you know that god is infinite, and you know exactly what being infinite means for an infinite being? And this is based on an experience you got from psychedelics? I think you are wrong about it. Yes we certainly have different beliefs. New agers believe that nothing is a coincidence, everything in our lives is planned/done by our higher selves and spirit guides to guide you towards enlightenment. God does have a personality, but it's almost impossible for a human to access it and get to know it, don't expect your psychedelics to give you access, a spiritual teacher I know tried to channel god, she had to fast for many days and prepare but she only got access to an "outer layer" very close to god, I think it was called "the one", it had a very pure, innocent personality, it was curious about the humans it spoke with. I won't take on your beliefs, because they don't make sense to me. They feel like a chaotic attempt to understand the world by a frog in a well. We have limits, that's why we need information from beings in higher dimensions who see things from a larger perspective.

Yes that's a good point. I don't think the system is evil. I think our spirit guides and higher selves loves us. What I'm worried about is the possibility of them being delusional. That maybe they are so high on non-duality bliss that they think suffering is nothing. You know some spiritual masters, like advanced non-duality teachers sometimes say "nothing has ever happened"? That's because the absolute makes it feel that way, seeing the truth has that effect, even the ugly parts of the world feels valuable and the absolute is the same perfect being. But the people and animals that suffer don't see the world that way.

Yea that's an interesting theory. I haven't really heard how new age teachers feel about that theory. I think they don't believe reality is that infinite, there's no need for it to be infinite in that way, and like you point out, it would be way too cruel. God could end all creation, but probably won't unless many high level beings begin to protest. You also have to keep in mind that the souls who are here in the trenches experiencing these things are the part of god that is the most brave and adventurous. The part of god that lacks that adventurous spirit is still safe in the source, just being and enjoying the oneness of god in the highest dimension. The new agers see god more like an ocean with many individual drops of water, instead of just one being, not everyone is suffering.

Should I have more faith in myself? Yes that is kind of how our higher selves see it. They are strengthening us through hardships. It would be a shame if someone forced our middle path bastard higher selves to enter such hardships, where they have to face despair and the risk of total annihilation. But we won't take it that far. Reason and compassion will defeat their extremism. It's harsh for everyone, we're in the same boat. Though I'm sure you're enjoying your non-duality intellectual limbo period where you think that everything is simple and that you can handle anything because you're not identifying with the body. The problem is that you can't fool your spirit guides, if you're not pure enough and your body is restless, they're going to scheme against you. Only if you're absorbed, peaceful, pure, will they allow you to have a permanent honeymoon period. Am I wrong?

Fine, I'll try it some day. They control me by punishing me when I'm not following their plan, they basically force me to walk the path that they have decided for me, it is a co-creation so I do have some power, but not enough. They dislike it when a person is too passive, misses opportunities in life, has fears that they don't face and clear, has other distortions they're not clearing, etc. And some people are playing life on a high difficulty, their spirit guides expect greater things from them, and has harsher consequences for failing to follow their path.

I'm not, I'm actually on the path to be a perfect agent for the middle path, since that's the only way I know to minimize my suffering. But when I get to the other side and my spirit guides lose their control over me, I can join the light faction. I might try it in a few days, but if I want to meditate I could just do so on my own, I often feel bliss when meditating.

In the new age teachings, god originally didn't create anything, it just existed within itself. But then came a desire to know something more than itself, to forget who it is and then find itself again. Which led to creation. If we humans become enlightened, we create a new type of consciousness known as the christ consciousness, it can only be born in an environment like earth, where there's darkness and light and where people have forgotten that they are god. I mean that even if I get rid of the I-thought and experience samadhi for the rest of my life, I would still be against the system and start working against it when I get to the other side, unless someone can present some counter arguments. I haven't watched it, but I've done non-duality meditations before, like Rupert's, so I think I get the concept.

Yes, but you're basically saying "it is what it is", that doesn't change my stance. Why does Kali and Shiva exist? Because god wanted to evolve, they are part of the plan, or maybe you see Shiva as the absolute, either way, I'm saying that creating all these forms and starting the creation was a mistake. Or at least they should put a restriction so that they don't create realms like our earth with all the suffering. Yea Rupert is great and I agree with his teachings mostly. But that won't change my opinion on the system. A communist probably wouldn't stop being a communist just because they studied Rupert's teachings right? Because it's a separate issue. My new age beliefs aren't the issue, the issue is reality and the system.

I don't know.

Yea but they are still doing that to us. Like how in society we need to have laws and things, because we don't act like we are all one. So I can still be against the system.

In my opinion there are: Sentient beings who also have the capacity to feel emotions, like humans and animals. Sentient beings without the capacity to feel emotions, like ensouled robots like the gray ET's, or higher dimensional beings like some dragons, etc. Semi-sentient beings with spirituality like trees, rocks, insects, etc. They are part of a collective and are sentient and spiritual in their higher dimensional existence. Non-sentient, dead objects without spirituality like computers, processed materials and robots. They may be part of God's creation/extension, but they are not like God, they can't feel love.

A quote from a good non-duality teacher (Artem Boytsov) on enlightenment and psychology:

Yes, I only listen to recorded transmissions and the energy can be stronger than, for example, live RASA transmissions. However, some people do not feel anything, even after having meditated with the transmissions more than 1000 hours. The practices for developing one's intuition/psychic abilities should also make the transmissions stronger. Doing shadow work to get more inner purity should also work. As for making the effects of the transmissions better, contemplation on spiritual/non-duality truths is a great method. Or visualizing/imagining the result you want while meditating with the transmission, I know someone who achieved incredible things with this method. Yes, presence and surrender works for me. It makes sense that sitting cross-legged works, then the energy does not move down into the earth so easily, it stays in your body. For the types of transmissions I listen to, it is better to have the feet firmly on the ground because with that strong energy, some people sometimes get headaches, dizziness or negative emotions if too much energy builds up.

Okay then I will check out his teachings. Maybe he is what one may define as a saint, I love people like that. However, Avatars are on a different level, they are born that way and their purpose is to bring great blessings to humanity. Nirmala Devi (1923 - 2011) did a global initiation 1995 that activated the kundalini of all humans, making it much easier for people to raise their kundalini to the crown chakra, and since then a lot more people have started awakening. I think she was an avatar. Her Sahaja Yoga still lives on, she never charged money for her satsangs or services, and she awakened many atheists because during Sahaja Yoga one feels the presence of Divine Mother physically. She is one example, there are others. Spirituality is my passion and I have done a lot of research into teachers, teachings, spiritual traditions etc. There are living saints and avatars for sure because there is a global awakening happening right now and we need their assistance.

No, it is unlikely that a non-duality teacher would be an avatar. Non-duality teachers are like normal people, they do not have any spiritual powers or strong auras. You probably do not believe in the existence of Avatars, which is fine, but then you should not have commented. The most evolved spiritual teachers I have seen have never been non-duality teachers, because when you evolve further you begin to get information and teachings from within, and the non-duality awakening is just the beginning, so the highly evolved teachers will have more unique teachings. @Arthogaan No, he seems like the complete opposite of a saint. Saints are pure and benevolent.

Like believing that there is no duality, or that there is an I-thought, or that dropping one's concepts will lead to liberation? Are those the types of beliefs you have in mind? Those "beliefs" come from my direct experience and investigations of reality, they are not causing me any psychological suffering and are similar to believing that there are trees and cars and houses. It is very different from believing in things that are not really there, like the false Self or the Mind.

I guess a selling point for non-duality teachings is that since it is all about dropping the concepts and beliefs you won't commit to any beliefs that could later turn out to be false. So it is the safest path for people who are skeptical and rational. To intend to believe for the rest of your life that you are a Mind in a human body or whatever it is that you believe you are, is a big commitment, it would be unfortunate if you spent your whole life believing in a lie, right?

The non-duality teachings are all about going beyond the mind, dropping the concepts and seeing what is real. To look within at the false ideas and concepts we have built up which affects how we perceive reality, and letting go of those so that we can see clearly and be free and happier.

Your body and soul are real, however if you (the human) tries to find a real, objective Self or Mind within you, all you will find are thoughts, and in the center of those thoughts is the I-thought, the Self and the Mind are distortions created by the I-thought, they are not real. So you are not who you think you are, you are reality itself, you are beyond the mind.

Yes, there is not a separate self: the self is one with everything, it is not separate. The "no-self"-teaching does not say that you are not a human, but that seems to be how you and some other misguided neo-advaita-people interpret it. In Buddhism, it is a teaching of oneness or sometimes about non-doership. In non-duality, it is a teaching to help us see the ego/I-thought clearly and get rid of it through self-inquiry. Once the I-thought is gone, the teaching is no longer relevant or true, because then you are just a simple human again who has let go of all concepts because the truth is beyond the mind.