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Really? Is that a full fledged "evidence "? I fear the boogeyman under my bed ..does that make the boogeyman real ? Look,there is absolute and relative perspectives regarding death . And I can jump between them easily . But you seem to only be "paradigm-locked "(I know you like to use this term) to one perspective. The relative one . From the relative perspective..death and life are real, and never an illusion. We have a conscious body and we will die. This is a basic fact of life . Death means the physicality is disappearing and being disintegrated into dust. If you believe there exists a kind of omnipresent, omnipotent and omniscient life force within the physical body(God), then after death, this life force will go on to create another, and then another temporarily popping up and then dissipating life form. So life and death are two faces of the same coin, or the two phases of the cyclical changes between physicality or consciousness mechanism in all the sentient beings. Well first of all ..im skeptical that death is even real in the first place ..and I made this thread just to point out that .but if we assume death is real as its the common belief we've been brainwashed with ..then yeah ..I can imagine suffocating to death for example and compare it with being burned alive .and I would choose the first one .

Glad you are healthy. If I'm guessing it correctly..you're getting older and you feel like the end is close(correct me if I'm wrong)..? Well ..all I can say is that death either doesn't exist or its the best thing ever . If we cease to exist then we can truly rest in peace. Don't you really enjoy sleeping soundly? I believe death is an eternal sleep.or if there is a separate God, he is certainly not an evil mofo ..he doesn't have hell and punishment. Stay well ?.

No . What's your point?

I'm not sure if this poetic or actual.. But in case it's for real..I'm really sorry to hear that man ...tell me if I can help you in any way ..please PM me if you need any assistance of any kind .

So are you saying that all fear boils down to fear of death? I personally fear pain more than death . If I was to choose between pulling my eyes out with a razor or dying i would definitely choose dying . Leo has an amazing episode about the social matrix . Basically 99% of our current worldview is shaped by society. Wether it's religious indoctrination or school or the media etc.. And death is one of the firm beliefs in the matrix . But once you unhook yourself outside the matrix .you see it for what it is .a belief. It is a question of perspective.. If we consider just our own life in its physical form and from our experience, the world eternal might not sound too comfortable.. However if you have access, wisdom and the willingness to look beyond the physical, all life is inter connected and eternal. Yes we might popup and popout for some time depending on the physical form we take. It might sound a little heavy but for millions of years, life in any which form has sustained its coherence and continuity amongst all creatures, be it animate or inanimate. Because we get so engrossed in our limited experience of body and mind, we tend to experience life in a very limited way. But yes, if you keenly observe beyond mind and body with tools available in meditation and spirituality, an eternal life is throbbing in all forms of creation in a very beautiful, inter dependant way.

False. Im totally alive and not dead .and I'm not hallucinating anything. There is only life appearing as whatever it wants to . @Gesundheit2 give me one single evidence that death is real . And no ,others dying isn't an evidence that you gonna die . You can see people dying in a dream .yet the death of you in a dream means you just wake up to reality. Similarly, your mom could die and that doesn't prove you will die . When it's your turn ,you will just transform into the next life . nothing really stops. Energy carries on. It is more akin to a caterpillar shedding its covering and turning into a butterfly than an actual death or stop. Energy changes but it does not stop or end.

An animal doesn't fear death . It has no concept of death . It feels pain .so that's why the antelope runs away from the lion .not because it fears death. But because it fears the pain of shedding their flesh apart by the lions mouth . So no ,I think the only reason we fear death is how its been portrayed in our society and especially by religion (the idea of Eternal hell )etc. If we investigate what death actually is ..we discover easily that death is a belief .it doesn't require awakening. It doesn't require Einstein's intelligence. It's easy to see through it .

No. I found it . Here it is..https://www.actualized.org/insights/absolute-presence-immortality

Agree . The moment of catching your last breaths is the very moment you come crying out of a woman's womb.

Haha stop playing these silly games .

OK I will try to address your points.. First of all..There are many paths to enlightenment. However ,there is not different types of the ‘realisation of the one truth’. The truth is just ‘you are God ’. But, there are many minds from different conditionings and backgrounds that seek different kinds of realization. Leo is talking about a specific type of enlightenment. . For example..I'm sure you are familiar with the Neo-Advaita philosophy and POV on Enlightenment: No paths lead to enlightenment. Enlightenment is not ‘somewhere else.’ Enlightenment is right here. This is it. If enlightenment resides on a distant summit somewhere, there is no enlightenment. There is only Being. There is no “you” that arrives at ‘enlightenment,’ no matter which path/practice you take, nor which trail you climb up any mountain. The question presumes there is a separate “someone” who can arrive “somewhere” other than where we are, through “their” own volition. It also presumes the illusory “you” wants that, perhaps as an escape from your ‘normal’ life or ‘suffering.’ When that false ”you” dissolves, all that’s left is Being/Enlightenment. blah blah blah And Leo says : you go full circle from extreme denial of the self to recognize that the self is everything. And that you are the whole of reality and that you are God. The actual creator of this universe. And you can reclaim your authority as God and create your life accordingly. It doesn't seem to me that it's ego stroking or games to gain money or that Leo is being childish (the entire planet doesn't understand enlightenment, only I do ). You ate free to interpret that as you like .that either Leo is turning enlightenment into business and trying to gain profit from it .or he is really onto something. I choose the second option . If you choose the first option then you are basically saying that Leo is manipulating people into his mumbo-jumbo enlightenment nonsense and tries to gain money via courses and YT etc . And this makes me ask you: if you do think that ..then why are you in a forum of that scammer?

@Gesundheit2 He is partially correct especially about Buddhism. Buddhism does not define God. Beings have levels of awareness .. some of these beings ( depends on which school of Buddhism ) function as deities. But there is no Creator, no single ‘god’, no CEO at the top. There is just ‘our’ Universe, floating inside the meta-Universe, with everything floating inside and part of it. The meta-Universe can create anything it feels like, because everything is already part of it, but it is not God

@Leo Gura i know this wasn't directed to me..but it got me curious and I have few notes .. Howsoever you turn it, if you are looking for a definition of enlightenment, you would be doing so with your own conditioning and your ideals and ideologies. You would be looking for your own conditioned projection. if you think all other conditions of “enlightenment” as you define it are fullfilled. So, yes, it is possible for an enlightened person, like you, to be arrogant. But can't you have empathy for other "versions " of enlightenment that you yourself used to sprout in the past ? You have a pinned thread about exercises to reach enlightenment from few years ago and it basically talks about no self. Zero mention of God. I understand that that was years ago and you have been growing exponentially over the last few years ..but why can't you see that guy as similar to you ?he is just in the beginning of his journey.

Cigarettes are made for you to inhale the smoke. As much "bad stuff" as possible goes straight into your lungs. Cigars (good cigars, not cheap garbage cigars) have no additives to "mellow" the smoke so you can't suck them down like cigarettes. Also I Read that Cigar smokers have a much lower rate of lung and throat cancer than cigarette smokers, but still have elevated rates of lip and mouth cancer from direct contact with tobacco and "tasting" the smoke. I'm not saying anyone should smoke a Cigar , rather it's just the smartest of the two stupid options. I've never smoked a Cigar. And I'm getting bored with regular cigarettes. I didn't smoke anything for a while. But now my brain is trying to trick me into trying something more exciting to get off like trying Cigars, maybe weed etc

As we age older.. Do we require more calories to feel full and satiated? I guess because our bodies get bigger and weigh more..so then It follows that we require more fuel?.. But also aren't we already have accumulated all that energy throughout our lives that we should feel hungry less often? I really don't know. I'm asking because Its difficult for me to feel full.. Which wasn't the case few years ago. Maybe it's due to me cutting out all sugar and junky carbs from diet. Idk.

I'm beyond help. I'm smoking right now as I'm typing this lol. I'm completely at peace and I accept myself as a smoker and that I have no problem smoking for the rest of my life. Because smoking is WONDERFUL!! There is simply no way that I will ever quit! I am very glad that I started! What do you guys say to that ? I've been doing it for almost a decade now and it is becoming a big part of my psychology. I started when I was 16 to impress girls in high school . ,I didn't like it at first and coughed a lot ,but with time it became my best friend. I may have learned to use cigarettes as a coping mechanism for everything from excitement and happiness to boredom or even anger. How i quit for good when I've become emotionally attached to cigarettes? The power that nicotine has over people who smoke is tremendous. I know that nicotine is a toxic substance .only because of the many health risks of smoking, but because of the tricks nicotine plays on those who use it. I just can't stop .I can't put the damn cigarettes down no matter how much I try. And you know what? What's the worst case scenario? Dying from a heart attack or a stroke ? Imma fucking die anyways . And honestly, I'm not so satisfied with the quality of this existence..so dying prematurely would be great !. Fortunately, cigarettes can help me with that . I hope that anyone reading this doesn't "get it " as a cry of help being cosmetically covered with bragging about my smoking habit . Rant over .

That's typically my daily breakfast. I drink a lot of water. Eat lots of healthy vegetables and fruits. But you are right when you said I programmed my body to eat sugar (glucose). So now when I finish my main meal I crave some dessert.

@Emrie thanks for sharing your story.

Is cereal with fresh fruits and honey considered "shit"?

Then why do we have something like the recommended daily calorie intake about 2,000 calories a day for women and 2,500 for men? Isn't calorie dependent on our physique, and weight? I'm pretty sure a bodybuilder requires more food than a simp. And how is that connected to age? Well as we Age from puberty to mid 20s we normally gain weight.

@Emrie thanks for the response. I already see a therapist and I Take a lot of SSRI's. To make this short and precise for both of us..just tell me how tf to quit? Did you quit alcohol? How did you do it?

Well if it depends on brain chemistry then any qualified neuroscientist could study the brains of enlightened people... And pin down the exact chemical soup that produces enlightenment and then invent an instant enlightenment pill. What's stopping us from doing this?

Now that is a profound and powerful answer. yes, one can live without a belief system. But the reality is far from easy to accomplish. To do this can lead to enlightenment. To be without a belief structure one must examine all their beliefs and be able to disassociate from them completely. This requires hyper-self-awareness on a moment to moment basis and the willingness to let go of every single belief and expectation. That includes beliefs about who and what you are and your place in the world. You must become a complete blank. I have actually created meditations and other practices for accomplishing this but it takes a great deal of commitment and work. But it can be done. Can you for example stop believing that other people exist? Don't know what?!

Go ahead and try to avoid all belief and let's see how will your life work out. Every time you go with "gut feel," you are using a belief system. Every time you select an option from an equally probable menu of choices, you are applying some other criteria according to a belief system. An entirely rational and empirical life might be desirable to some, but it is utterly impossible. All theories of science started by abstract perspectives, which scientists initially believed to be true. But when a theory is put into test in reality, the belief is verified, and turned into a fact. If a belief system is beneficial, why would one reject it?

And how do you know that? Maybe belief is actually the only way to reach truth ..After all let me ask you this: do you know what anything Is ? Of course you will be bullshiting if you said you do .so why not just wager on faith ? Epistemically, what gives "direct consciousness " more value than "belief "? Please ponder this question carefully before you respond. Because I'm making a very subtle point.