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"I have set for myself a rather daunting task: to demonstrate that no therapy that uses words as the predominant mode of treatment can succeed at creating any profound change in the patient. This includes all insight therapies, cognitive therapy, rational emotive therapy, hypnotherapy, psychoanalysis, biofeedback, eye movement desensitization and reprocesssing (EMDR), and guided imagery/directive daydreaming. All of these can help, but none can make a profound change in personality or provide profound, lasting relief. I would have disagreed with this proposition when I originally practiced psychoanalytic, insight therapy many decades ago. My patients agreed that they felt differently after treatment, and believed that they had made major changes in their lives. Now I am more than skeptical. I have now seen what more is possible. Profound personality change is impossible on the level of words, or even on the level of emotions; there is no venting or “getting it out,” such as crying and screaming, that will bring about any true or lasting change. For true and lasting change to occur, deep levels of the brain must change physiologically, enabling key structures within the brain to recalibrate to optimal, healthy levels. Furthermore, such change will only come about when those parts of the brain that hold deeply imprinted memories can connect neurochemically with the parts of the brain that underlie the more rational, thinking aspects of our minds, such as the frontal neocortex. No amount of talk-based therapy will ever bring about such a connection because there is little activation of the subcortical structures that mediate the deeply imprinted memories, yet this connection is vital if more substantial progress in psychotherapy is to occur. Conventional psychotherapy has been imbued with the belief that good mental health is a product of your mind—a result of your thinking, logical, rational, prefrontal cortex; in brief, that you can think your way to health. Yet neurosis, a physical and mental deviation of a normal system, is not laid down in the brain as an idea but as an experience, one that leaves a physiological trail. Because of this, any psychotherapy that relies on words and ideas cannot change neurosis." Janov, Arthur. Primal Healing: Access the Incredible Power of Feelings to Improve Your Health (Kindle Locations 226-229). New Page Books. Kindle Edition.

Janov explained talk therapy as the equivalent of receiving 30 mg of Prozac. It feels good to have someone listen to you. So the client gets addicted to the attention and once addicted is willing to pay a high price for something that won’t change him in anyway.

I agree. It is a difficult journey, but liberating. https://youtu.be/RR9P7ksKktM

I have been researching Iboga. If the reports about it are correct, it could be the best one for healing.

In the video he says that he is an atheist. But now he is reading the Koran. How can this be solid advice with such variability in opinion depending on the date? And the advice on caring for yourself is just growing up and being an adult. By his own admissions, we know that anything he says is going to be to further his own interest.

As for Tate's business skills, a criminal makes profits of 1000 percent, or some other huge number. They can’t run a business like a grocery store that has to survive on 6% profit margin. The downside is you either get wacked by a bigger thug or end up in prison like the Tate brothers. I seriously doubt anyone on this forum would last one day as a criminal. It is all immature fantasy. But the fact that he has followers shows that stage orange has become toxic. There is no sense of community, people are becoming isolated, and they have an inner anxiety that they are living in a society where it is every monkey for himself. They are responding to the underlying unspoken beliefs of the culture. This goes way beyond Tate.

I understand totally your reactions. Christianity is a toxic dogma. Give yourself credit for getting in touch with your feelings and recognizing that you have been violated. Now, you have to deal with the anger and get to the feeling underneath, like hurt, sense of betrayal, violation of boundries, and so forth. The anger will still bind you to the toxic dogma. Freedom comes when your feelings to the dogma become neutral. For a spiritual path, there are options that don't require toxic made-up beliefs. Here is one helpful channel that has helpful advice with a Taoist orientation, and has a path for healing. https://www.youtube.com/@WuWeiWisdom

Forbes has an informative timeline. The Tate brothers home was first raided back in April 2022. They are held on human trafficking charges, one of the suspects (unidentified) is also charged with rape. There six victims identified. Prosecutors “continue their investigation into human trafficking and organized crime”. If the investigation has been expanded to “organized crime” over the two charges, that could take some time. It’s interesting that the Tate brothers had a chance to get out of town back in April. But they were too smart for that. They play three dimensional chess. https://www.forbes.com/sites/conormurray/2023/02/01/andrew-tate-again-appeals-romanian-detention-his-human-trafficking-charges-explained-and-a-timeline-of-the-social-media-stars-controversies/?sh=59c578e94e6e

I have a guide. She takes the bufo after I do. I can feel her guiding me, but she can only go so far with me and then I am on my own.

I vape Bufo Alvarius. It takes about a minute to go in. It's very fast. Keep in mind that in the youtube videos where people freak out - the Bufo could be mixed with something else like DMT or Datura. You need to know your source.

The Christian missionaries have shoved their ideology down the throats of natives for centuries. They opened up boarding schools run by pedophiles to abuse their native students. The churches are full of abusers. Native leaders in Brasil, Colombia, and Peru are being murdered by developers who want their land. These conservative crybabies haven't received even 1 percent of what they have dished out. They are in a protected bubble and panic when even just a little air gets in.

Some details of the evidence are starting to leak out. Yes, they do have evidence. https://www.insider.com/andrew-tate-raped-victim-twice-court-documents-say-report-2023-2

According to the below link, Tate has hired Tina Glandian to represent him. https://www.bbc.com/news/wor”ld-europe-64485965 “Ms. Glandian serves as a United Nations representative for the Armenian International Women’s Association, which is part of the Commission on the Status of Women whose mission is to promote gender equality and the empowerment of women.” https://geragos.com/attorneys/tina-glandian/ It’s interesting that he hires a high powered feminist lawyer to get him out of roach motel.

I don’t find the words “raise your consciousness” to be particularly edifying. I prefer the Shinzen “shoe” test. You have been meditation day and night for two weeks and at the end of the retreat you discover that someone took your shoes. How do you react? If you get angry and upset, that is evidence that you haven’t become detached and your meditation didn’t have a lasting affect. If someone tells me that they are infinity, God, enlightened, life is a dream, etc., I’m not interested. But if you tell me that you have just noticed that things your brother did that use to annoy now you don’t even notice. I say that is huge and you have made a permanent change. If you can forgive you mother. Huge. Real change. You can now let go of negative thoughts more easily. Real change. Someone insults you, and instead of feeling anger, you feel compassion. Nice job.

What I want to know is how "infinity" helps you when you have a flat tire? Or any other shit comes up. Does your mind remain calm and in equilibrium, or even joyful?

Al Capone was put away for tax evasion and not for all the crimes and murders he committed. If they can do the same for the Tate brothers, then so be it.

I have done a lot of Bufo Alvarius, you have amazing experiences, but the next day it is just a memory. The same problem with Ayahausca. Lately, I have been looking into Iboga. From what I have been reading about Iboga, it could bring about permanent changes. The Iboga actually goes into your past and shows you the most important events that influenced you and gives you a chance to resolve your issues. This is really something valuable, if you can heal your past-created mind to free you to have a joyful life. I am beginning to question the usefulness of the “enlightenment” model. Healing is what we need. Expanding out of the mind-created prison is what I am looking for. I am looking at the Iboga retreats. I don’t like the hospital model and i don’t have any drug addictions.

You aren’t going to get an unbiased insight into the case by listening to a clown like Paul Watson. We have to wait for the evidence. Keep in mind that in even a relatively straight forward case, it took prosecutors over a year to charge Alec Baldwin. And gathering evidence for the Tate brothers case is more complicated. It’s not true that they are being held without due process. The judge has reviewed the current evidence and ruled that there is a “reasonable suspicion” of a crime. Romania is a civil law country where the judge takes an active role and acts like an inquisitor directing the investigation. That means the judge is intimately familiar with the facts and can make a ruling. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-64428277

Yes, yes and yes. The Tate brothers exploit the men even more brutally than they exploit the women. But young men are too immature and naive to see it. They worship the thug who cheats them. Keep in mind, if some guy is bragging how he tricks and manipulates people, you can infer that he will also trick and manipulate you. There is no honor among thieves. As for the girls, its always a man (i.e, pimp) in the background that is controlling the women. In Colombia, it is a male gang leader who controls the women who scopolamine men and rob their cash.

Maybe it’s because mammals care for their young. Try petting a crocodile.

I practice ruthless honesty during the day as things go on. I monitor my emotions and what I am telling myself. It is especially useful when being triggered. You get better at it with practice. A good place to start is with always questioning your motives. They can be really slippery. For example, I made a post because I thought it would be useful. But was my real motive just to get attention? The mind will quickly hide true motives that go against the morality of the super ego which generates shame to suppress them. So you not only observe your true motive but you also observe the rules that are stored in your super ego and the feelings it generates. The super ego stores rules installed by your parents and culture. When you become aware of them, your adult mind can decide whether they are still useful or should be discarded.

Judging others is a big one. In a recent mushroom journey, it was pointed out to me that my ego tricked me into judging Andrew Tate, and to the extent that I judge him, I enmesh myself with his Karma.

Judaism was developed to forge a national identity and is more about politics than religion. The Eastern religions focused on knowing the self rather than speculating about a transcendent God. Christianity was the first totalitarian system. The worst is the current pop nonduality fad which is vapid intellectualism.

They don’t seem to get it, that while all the horny guys are demonstrating for Tate, you should be approaching women. No competition. Idolizing Tate is a substitute for taking action. It takes away all their power. This is why introspection and awareness are so important and highly practical. If you reflect upon your own mind, you discover the thoughts that are tripping you up.

Has the thought occured to anyone else that this is all Jordan Peterson’s fault? I noticed that the Jordan Peterson threads use to multiple like tribbles, but then died down and were replace by rapidly multiplying Tate threads. The old government propaganda films use to say that marijuana is a gateway for the harder drugs, like heroin. JP got kids hooked on the right-wing politics of resentment. But he was relatively bland and never took his shirt off. His show of anger was manifested as breaking down in tears. Having a kermit the frogish voice tell you to clean your room gets boring after a while. In a few months we have gone from “clean your room” to “lets sex traffic women”. Maybe the government was correct.