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@zasa joey so you can use them as a help if you feel confuse, right? PS: I hope I'm not insisting to much.. I just don't like to know there are sad people out there..
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@zasa joey What do you think about them?
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@zasa joey Yes I also hope that you don't just listen to leo but also to others, do you know some? For your psyche, I would also recommend Adyashanti or if you are available for listening to women as well, Gangaji is so kind and wise.. Sorry for insisting.. But life can be so beautiful.. you just need to look and appreciate.. maybe focus a little less on yourself and love what ever surrounds you.. I can't be that horrible, or can it?
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@zasa joey thank you for your feed back.. I can understand that you feel lost because of all this stuff that seems contradictory.. Perhaps it's possible to understand it better if you keep in mind that a lot of things are right at one level but not at the next anymore.. Example: Look at lying.. - If you look at it as a religious, conformist person, it's a sin, you never should lie, or at least it never should be discovered, right? - if you "grow" a little more, maybe you go through a capitalist state, where everything is allowed what leads you to success, inclusive liyng and it doesn't matter if others remark it or not.. ok? - if you reach another level, you become more open and less selfish, you know that you can lie to get what you want and you aren't affraid to do this, but it seems senseless because liyng to others is like lying to yourself.. So you just drop it - maybe if you "grow" further you may discover that it's good sometimes.. and so on What I try to explain is, you need first to see where you are and at which level the speaker is, so you can differentiate better and understand the paradoxes.. PS: what doesn't mean that you "should" believe everything you hear: the best answers are deep in you, you have do go there, words never really express the truth really good
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@step1 It's the same in Europe too in the moment and where I'm living there's thousand of blooming cherry trees and it's so beautiful, I can't even word it.. I think nature is a good means to stay rooted and get vitality and joy.. and of course spring is a good time to start with acknowledging your surrounding, it's the easiest way and you can try to stay in touch even when it's rainy and unfriendly, because the beauty is still there, just a little more hidden, but you can find it every where, when you look closely.. Really! @Kelley White seems to be an easy way
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perhaps there's something useful in Leo's videos, if not, you wouldn't even considere it, right? What should you do? Personally I profoundly dislike this "should" word, so I would never do anything just because I should or avoid something because I shouldn't do it.. It's a really good thing that you question what you hear or look at, I wouldn't either swallow anything just because someone told me so. You can make your opinion and try out what you think that is good for you. In my opinion, you can win insights by listening to each person, some can offer you more, some less, make your choice see the positive side and take the best of them.. Maybe you can give some good to others as well ? PS: you don't have to destroy anything, you can understand so much more if you don't battle, just listen and feel, it's more effective and so much more enjoyable.. Just relaxe
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Nathalie replied to zasa joey's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@zasa joey you already are everyone .You just don't realize it yet. Every enlightened one would say.. It doesn't matter, you can have a glimpse of it every time when you allow yourself to fully feel what you feel in each moment and observe and acknowlegde it. When you are familiar with this and have remarked that you are able to recognize and master your emotions, the next step you can do is to put yourself in the shoes of the others which vision(s) you want to share. I don't know if I can express it rightly.. I don't mind this kind of superficial sympathy one may have who "knows" what the other person feels or thinks but in reality, doesn't quit his own structures and experiences.. I mind it in a very deeper level, completely forgetting "who you are" in this moment, and see the world with the other's eyes. I can't report anything from a higher level than this one (I wasn't there) but this game is so enriching, I would recommend it if you aren't affraid to "lose yourself" take care -
@Kelley White As friendly as always happy to "see" you again
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Nathalie replied to Huz's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Can be.. Some people have a natural high self esteem and lthey are surely concerned and they possibly even don't remark it.. But if you have to "build" it first, it seems to be contradictory because you need others to fix your degree of self esteem, don't you?.. And therefore you need situations or things which prove you, you have "the right" to have a high esteem of yourself because of.. what ever. Of course you can be so kind and smile at others when you have a high self esteem, but you can only fool others and feed your ego with it. There's no competition because you think you are high in your scale, but what happens when you meet a higher one? If you stil commited in self actualization, you will transcendant it whether you think it's necessary or not.. It the way it leads to.. -
Nathalie replied to Huz's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
At least Eckart Tolle thinks so.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VauHIuyPwkM and his arguments are good, aren't they ? -
@abrakamowse In my opinion, the difficulty is to recognize a believe and to differentiate between the actual truth and a believe, because your believes are during so long time your "truth". Once you have discovered that it's just a believe, you can drop it or smile at it as a good joke and therefore stop following it. So my question would be, how do you recognize a believe?
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and I hope that no labile person will read this topic, eventually understand it as a recommendation and try it out in order to become enlightened .. or what ever the goal may be...
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@Lyn I think your intention is already so lovely and it's the best imaginable starting point for a good relationship (with whom ever). The difficult point is often when one comes back home from time to time, everybody has to climatize anew because a lot of habits have to be modified.. And often everybody wants to defend his opinion because of course everybody knows better and is right .. So a big purpose but a good one (I think) would be if you could stay very present, not willing to protect your own opinions but willing to see and understand other perspectives, asking questions instead of "knowing answers". On the one hand it's seems so easy but on the other it's a big deal, so you can give yourself breaks, like concentrate yourself on your breath, on your body, go out for a walk, try to be humorous even if you use to find it serious.. Avoid to become personally, but point to what you feel and understand not how "they" are And above all, I wouldn't take those arguments so seriously either.. It's ok, you can relaxe, everybody has the right to feel what he feels when he feels it, don't you think so? Always harmony is borring.. Do you know Ram Das? He said once: "If you think you're enlightened go spend a week with your family." I Mean, it's difficult for almost everyone of us.. It's always so challenging.. I think it too and I can be a little more relaxed by contemplating the whole time with my "loved ones" as a part of an internal (and maybe eternal) learn process.. I then look at the feelings which arise.. and I welcome them.. anyhow
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Thanks for sharing ..and I thing they principally point to the same point somehow: The best technique is to be passionate about the language you want to learn. If you are, you will soak it like a sponge, for example as @Mr Green immerges into,. There are so many possibilities and you will find and use them naturally, by the way, so to speak.. (Echange with native speakers, books, videos and forum about interesting themes in this language, radio, TV etc) If you aren't.. Start with looking for a way to get motivated, since otherwise you will battle against your self and miss the goal PS: if you are interested in personal developement, you could watch videos from Sergi Torres (youtube) .. He comes from spain and I think he's inspiring,and he speaks relatively slowly (besides, in case you don't know it, you can slow the speed down, in order to understand better )
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I also feel grateful for all the love you encounter here in this forum.. shared by the words of mutual help, sometimes directly, sometimes a little hidden between the words and the lines
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@JevinR I think, it's true,it feels a little like newage but I experience it indeed almost daily.. For a few weeks, I follow an advice of Ken Wilber who means among other things, that it's good to alternate stillness/consciousness (5-10 minutes) and a current issue you have to deal with (also 5-10 minutes) in your meditation.. It's also the effect that Tracy describes when he says: the super conscious mind works if you are totally concentrated or not at all in your goal (I hope I've undertood it rightly) How ever it's super powerful and you get really fresh answers.. I don't know if it matters how you call it.. Is "the super conscious mind" anything else than "the stillness" or "god" or what ever? I can't imagine either that you should follow anything to the very last letter.. It would be really dogmatic, wouldn't it? Why and how should somebody else better know what is good for you than your innerself? Above all if there is only one consciousness? PS: Thank you for sharing.. It's another reason why I love this forum: you always get new input and visions
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Thank you and I'm happy if it helps you.. May I ask you in a while how you have proceeded? Adyashanti quote: enjoy your self
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.. maybe.. and maybe another possibility to begin with loving yourself (inclusive your body -fat or not- it does so much for you doesn't it?) and stop this destruction work.. please..
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for all the nature surrounding me and for being able to enjoy it
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@The_Stubborn_One as so often @Natasha had found the right video You are the person who feels this love (and you are the one who is able to feel so) and I presume you project it to your ex-partner because so much has changed in a better way for you since you met her.. Maybe you mix all this feeling of amorousness, gratitude, new experiences etc and make her "responsible" of that. But you are the one who has grown, who felt so much, perhaps she was just an external (attractive) signpost to help you find the way.. If I were you, I think I would take the responsibility back to me and be grateful for this wonderful time, it's easier to say than to do? Well try to look very deep in your pain and acknowledge it, feel where it is in your body and accept it fully, you will see, it will not kill you, but strengthen you in an even more vital manner.. and maybe lead you further on your enjoyable path.. Wish you the best
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Hi @Huz88 I hardly recommand you to go and see a doctor. I don't know anybody who overcome this issue without professional help. Aside from that I think that i's often the case if you quit an addiction, you get another one. It comes from the fact that you need (and I mean it generally not personally, right?) something to cover a problem, or several problems, in order not to become aware of it. It's kind of self protection. So, in my opinion, it's really great that you have this strong will to stop an addiction after another, but if you want to live completely free of this, you need to pack it by the root. Sometimes they are so hidden, because they took place so long ago that you can't face the problem in your daily life: Find a way to your deeper self, use any help you meet for this, doctor, meditation, books, videos, what ever.. so you can live a fulfilling live I wish you the best
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@Bibi I totally agree with @Natasha and @Socrates I would just like to add that love isn't a business where you put some into to get some out Most people do.. of course so it becomes "normal" . But what if you love and acknoledge them just the way they are and don't expect anything? It's surely sound scareful and maybe not fulfilling to you, but what the risk? If you don't expect anything by loving, you can't be disappointed or hurt.. Or did ever a rose or a sunset, disappoint you? You either won't do anything for getting love anymore and this frees one . Try to focus on the best in everyone (don't forget yourself by the way) and you will not feel lonely anymore because it's the fact that we aren't able to love that make us feel a lack. Not the opposit as they try to teach us while we are small and dependent.. Hope it makes sense to you..
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@Samuel karizan yes it's a little difficult to help if one doesn't know what happend, but anyway.. Perhaps you felt a little better but you were not profoundly rooted yet in yourself, so that "outside happenings" bring you out of balance.. Can it be? Again I don't know why you feel so hurt, but maybe your expectations are to high for unconscious people ? How ever, I thing nobody who is it worth should deliberatly cause pain to somebody else.. So I wouldn't take it personally but rather look at what happend and try to find out how I can mentally grow through this experience.. and even feel better after this. Good luck
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@whuddafuks most people don't even remark it.. But, as far as I know, almost everybody does it. You've made the first step, maybe the greatest. The next step would be practicing meditation and consciousness - by looking deeply into the purpose of this conversations. You said: Why do you want to be witty and cool? Do you want to impress somebody? Why? Maybe, you just want to have a better self image? Why? Do you feel insecure in some situations? Why? Do you still have to say something to somebody? Why don't you do it? and on and on.. - You can also, each time you get aware of it, stop it and focus in the now => concentrate on your breath, what is happening around you? How do you feel right now? What do you see? Hear? Everything else is illusion.. - Finally, as you've surely noticed, this kind of scenarios never help (even the best) because the situation never occurs as it should .. It's a wast of time.. You can tell it to yourself.. Perhaps it also helps.. I wish you the best