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That is fucking nuts. I feel like this would be the kind of shit that would have one end up in a psyche ward. I’ve become completely insane during a trip before to what felt like the point of no return. But what you’ve just described seems so far away from the realms of normality I don’t know how someone would come back from that intact if you get me

What needs to be realised with the error in this thought process is that you’re holding God as other. As in God is doing, or allowing these things to happen to you, or someone else. Like it’s punishing another. You need to understand that God isn’t allowing these things to happen to anything else, it’s allowing it to happen to itself, and only itself. It’s not watching on from the sidelines. It is 100% directly involved, as the whole act, every part of it, thinking it, watching it, suffering it, being it. It is all the emotions of it, it’s the actual physical manifestation of it. Of anything and everything. It can also allow for it because it’s eternal and indestructible, therefore whatever it goes through in a human form, in its purist state of total awareness it is fully aware that whatever experiences for itself is in a sense no different to you going to bed at night, dreaming a horrific nightmare, and just waking up in the morning, completely and utterly unscathed, lying there in the exact same place, in your bed, never having actually moved, or done anything, experienced anything in the way it might have seemed, other than in its/YOUR imagination. It also has all the highest highs, but for some reason people don’t like to concentrate on that part of the duality. They constantly point out the lows, as if even searching for the negatives in the relative domain. Plucking them out, knit picking at the negative end. You must understand that to have the highest of highs, the lowest of lows must exist, high can not be experienced without low being a possibility. It’s the nature of duality. And the only reason you can experience this world in this form, is because of that. The set up is absolutely perfect to the nth degree. The intelligence is 2nd to none. Reality is ultimate perfection

Surely by your reckoning this should just go full circle then. You just made judgement on that post with your own reaction to it. Which in turn means you’ve literally just stated how you really see yourself ?

24 hour queues there were just to then stand in front of the coffin and bow your head or whatever for 10 seconds. The delusion of the general population is staggering when you take these sorts of things into consideration. I know people who I’ve know all my life who have barely ever mentioned the royal family or the queen in over 30 years of knowing them, suddenly they became big monarchists and the queens death apparently meant so much to them. The delusion of this circus is in the millions, infact runs into the billions. You can tell a lot about someone’s level of consciousness by the reaction to the queen. Total nonsense, worth no more or no less than the death of anybody else. Also just instantly replaced by the new king anyway and life just goes on, as it did beforehand. They’re not really doing too much these days anyway other than attending events just posing a that. The government rules the roost in this day and age if anything that’s where people’s attention should be focused, not on, what was it Leo said? Chimps wearing crowns ?. Don’t get me wrong I’ve respect for her dedication to what her duties were, but you just move on

I wouldn’t quite use the word pretend. You’re not literally sitting there pretending. As in if you’re a movie actor/actress, you are consciously pretending to play the role. You could maybe say if you had a piece of string, and dangled it straight down, straight, that could be like say our pure infinite consciousness, completely pure and enlightened, all knowing, whatever, however you like to frame it. Then you start to create a few ripples, twist it up a bit, tangle it round, make a few knots here and there, until it’s twisted and tangled all over the place. You then find yourself completely lost in it. So you’re not pretending, you’re genuinely lost in it. As the saying goes lost within your own dream. Until you unravel and untangle the whole thing again and find yourself back to where you started. You never ever left, just spun the string all over the place and got lost within it. You certainly aren’t pretending like an actor in a movie which is how I see you portraying your claim. Your human mind isn’t pretending, it’s genuinely wrapped up and convinced of it’s reality

I’d have to side with Leo on this one. There’s a good reason why he makes the videos and we watch them. It’s no coincidence

Top talk that. Interesting perspective. Food for thought as you say haha

In this case the murder would be committed out of the love for your child. Everything is acted out of a love for something one way or another. Even when it can be so twisted and an unhealthy form in the relative domain. Love is the backdrop behind everything

I like some of your insights and views. Intriguing many of them. But you have just made this up. This is no insight. It’s no awakening to anything. This is a fantasy you’ve thought up and chose to believe. @Someone here is serious about this work, whether he’s a massive over thinker or not. He’s genuinely searching for truth. You’re getting carried away. Every thought you have is not an insight. You haven’t verified your claim, because it’s not verifiable, because it’s not true. Theres always a ‘friend’ who seems to be verifying for you. On this occasion your friend is chatting shit. As are you. It seems you’re beginning to fall into traps and believing every thought that enters your head. I’m sure you’ve had awakenings, but I’m sure you’re also having delusions. Like I say I like you man, there’s some good stuff to take from you. Just beware of slipping into fantasy land ??

@amanen well yea I did feel as though I had this down to a certain degree. My own awakenings one after another seemed to cement that position. Then the infinity of gods concept was brought to my attention, and yes to me just a concept because I havnt realised what he’s talking about with that for myself, but it threw a spanner in the works and seems to have me confused again. What your saying matches with my own realisations

So we could say that during a nightly dream that this solipsistic bubble nature of the open world game trick is most certainly the case. But the question raises about the infinity of gods scenario. Could we say the same thing is happening but with multiple of these, all interconnecting, like an online multiplayer version of the same scenario? So your bubble is still the case, but there are others to connect with and interact with? Bubbles communing with bubbles, overlapping and interconnecting. Hence the shared dream scenario. Then no one else’s experience could be denied. Where as in a nightly dream all experiences of others can be denied. But then this raises more questions of how does this then at some point collapse into one, a singularity? You/I being it?

Very good ??

We may as well just change the site to Razard.org ey

I don’t really see the issue here. What Leo is saying is correct. Find the balance it’s pretty straightforward. Which benefits both aspects of your life, socialising and inner growth. Ya making a mountain out of a molehill chaps

I’d say every single possibility is available, potentially, like a branching out from any particular given point. As in for instance right now, you could veer off in unnumbered directions with your life, along any particular branch of possibility. Each single point creates the possibility of more branches from that point, and so on, to infinity, second by second you could say, but in actual fact a lot shorter time period but our human mind won’t register a time frame so small. All of these alternative directions you could choose are already existent potentially but not actualized by you. Every possibility is already there in the here and now, so yes you could say it’s already written. But you can steer yourself by living consciously to make actual any given particular path/experience. The more unconscious someone’s mind is the more completely out there and off track to one’s ego things might seem. It’s no mistake that the more conscious one is the smoother that ‘movie’ plays out

This doesn’t need a discussion. It’s your/my selfishness. It’s as simple as that

Personally I’m yet to experience this infinity of Gods. My awakenings suggest there is nothing existing except what is held within my consciousness. It has that solipsistic taste each and every time. I can only imagine that the infinity of Gods is an extension of that, not actually that there’s something going on somewhere outside of it. The unraveling of my life and all it’s stories and characters and form during awakenings leaves no room for another God doing it’s own shit outside of what I have been imagining. With the collapse of time and space I can only see that others lives as such are myself, in the same one and only eternal moment, and from the same one and only eternal place of nowhere, basically just here and now. Just God in a different state, therefore seeming like a different place, different time, whatever. That may seem like I would deny other people having an experience whilst I myself have one. Where as in actual fact I don’t, as from the state of being the other person then that experience exists, right here, right now. But paradoxically I do deny the experience of another, because awakened enough in a high enough state my very own experience is seen through to have never ever happened other than the swirl of imagination I’ve wrapped around myself. All in all, I can’t give a definitive answer other than as far as I’ve gone personally. Nor would I pretend that I can confirm the infinity of Gods realisation for what it’s supposed to be communicating

That the Razard86 version of me is addicted to this forum ?. Just some lighthearted humour my friend haha

Maybe you should take a look at your addiction to this forum before telling everyone else what they’re addicted to ?

No. They havnt got a clue what’s going on with reality. They are so low down on the spectrum of consciousness there’s just no chance. There’s very few that can even recognise themselves in a mirror, their own reflection, never mind recognise the mirror of reality itself. They are so wrapped up in survival they will literally do anything within their means to survive. You don’t get a monkey committing suicide because it’s survive at all costs. No matter how clever you may think particular animals are in their own domain, which many are, when it comes to an enlightened monkey, or horse, lion, or any animal, it’s just not happening. The wild is brutal, it’s survival only. And your domesticated dog or cat is not going to become what anybody thinks enlightened may be. As clever as any are, in any particular way, they are ultimately at too low level of consciousness for such a thing to be the case. They’d have to reach human levels first, and then they might be able to even begin to grasp that something iffy is going on. Most humans can’t even get that far, so you can write off your idea of our worldly animals. That’s my personal view anyway

But Leo. Can you actually sit in a bar or something, anywhere for that matter, where there’s a number of people, and be conscious that they are you? Or you are them? Same thing. During what I feel to me to be massive awakenings I can see how and why this is the case. But back in my normal state, other than using memory from awakenings, or the dream analogy, I just am not at all conscious of this. I can create in my mind that this is the way it must be, but I do not seem at all to be genuinely conscious of it

Jesus Christ mate you done that quick, already here you are, as me.. I’m stunned ?

Well tbh I don’t know Leo well enough to make a claim that he’s awesome. The 1% I do know of him through his videos is pretty damn cool though to say the least. And that latest video poetic description was certainly pretty damn awesome. Deep and right up my street

As far as I’m concerned I’ve barely began imagining you, never mind stopping imagining you. To me you have no form, and likely never will. Nothing more than a mere member name. Everything I possibly think about you, other than the member name you use on here, is completely and totally in my imagination. Yet even that is so strong in itself it takes some powerful deconstruction to realise, that everything I hold about what you are is purely imaginary. And if you were actually in front of me a solidified human being, other than the form itself of you, everything I think I might know of you, is still purely imaginary. Just what I’m perceiving you to be from my perspective. Go even deeper and even that form is realised to be completely imaginary, including my own, and everything else about me

One has to be the main frame. One has to take priority. It has to. You’ve got to ground yourself in one of them. This is the one you have. If you don’t ground yourself in one then you would be all over the place. Then from the grounded one, dreams can take place within dreams. But don’t forget, this is also a dream. You imagine yourself within this dream in the same way you imagine a self in a nightly dream. When you wake from a nightly dream, you realise you weren’t actually the individual self that you thought you were within that dream. You were actually the whole dream. So you were both the dreamt and the dreamer. Sames going down here, you just need to step it up a notch and realise from here that you are the dreamer. But also the individual self being dreamt. All in all though if you do step it up that notch, which is a massive notch to step up, you will realise you are the dream as a totality. Not just the individual in the dream. Therefore being the whole thing. Being God. And that’s the totality of reality. You’ve either got it going on or you havnt. Either a formed reality or an unformed. In either case you still just exist. Either as the whole of reality, whether you recognise it or not, or as a completely unformed pure singular infinite consciousness, with no form. Nothing, nowhere, no when. Pure awareness with nothing to be aware of. Until you dream up a seeming something to be aware of. Which in reality, won’t really be another thing to be aware of, it’ll just be you. Being aware of yourself, recognised or unrecognised