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What if indeed!

Too many people just want the spoilers, enjoy the show of life! You only get one chance to watch it so why miss it?

I like the way you think @electroBeam, but be careful not to put all your stock into one perspective or way of understanding.

I bookmarked it yesterday but haven't had time for it. I'll watch it as I go to sleep tonight and finish what I miss when I wake up, then report back to this thread for you @TrynaBeTurquoise I'm really excited.

I've read a lot of this thread and all I have to say on the topic is this - Remember guys (and gals), you don't owe Leo anything. He may have provided you with something valuable or improved an aspect of your life in some way, but you have no obligation to stick around. Especially if the path he's going down doesn't resonate with you and scares/worries you. If that's the case just say thank you for what you got, then leave. Remember all this is supposed to just be scaffolding anyways. You use it then throw it away. If you are sticking around just for the hell of it and not really fully grasping or integrating the content in a healthy matter it's probably an attachment issue, which is a problem in and of itself that has to do with the individual, not Leo. Don't be part of the reason people could justify calling this a cult. Yes Leo has a responsibility, but it's just not realistic for him to check-in with everyone and make sure they're up to speed and not going to misinterpret him and follow blindly. He is doing some cutting-edge radical stuff that the majority of people just won't be ready for. It takes time, careful navigation, and a lot of risk too. He shouldn't have to stop or hamper his process because he's constantly worried about babysitting. The fact is, yea a number of people are going to be blind and dogmatic about copying Leo will make catastrophic misinterpretations that could affect their lives negatively. If that's the case they weren't doing the work properly and we're probably fucked anyways. Accept that you can't control for every person in the world, you'd be so busy trying to put out the fires of stupidity you'd forget to work on yourself, which is why are all here (mostly). Personally I won't be sticking around or following as much in the future. I'm noticing that while the concepts are neat and speak to me, a lot of it is just mental masturbation and not practical for what I need at this point in my life to match my goals. Don't keep investing if you're getting diminishing returns. Remember you can always come back later. I'll leave this thread with a quote that's high relevant; "If you meet the Buddha on the road, kill him."

@Chumbimba Create a routine so refined you don't even need to think, they won't be able to help but laugh at some level just out of respect for your your effort. You have all the time in the world to come up with something, because there are no expectations if you've never gone and nobody has heard of you! Self-deprecation is a great category to start because A) It shows you don't take yourself too seriously B) If you are already bashing yourself what more can they do to you? Also mention that it's your first time and they'll be a lot gentler with you and cheer you on. That will help get rid of the fear almost right away. Besides even in an environment like a bar or club, most people are pretty chill and won't be dicks about. Most of them would never have the guts to get on stage and they know that. What's the worst that could happen if it goes bad anyways? You'll never see those people in your life again.

Shame is a sneaky defense mechanism of the ego in which it tries to indirectly or directly influence and nudge people into behaving or thinking a certain way. If it can get everybody to conform to be like it, then it can absolve all responsibility to change or improve itself without remorse. It feels safe, comfortable, and justified in the warmth of numbers. Notice how every cult, religion, political group, and any other kind of collective ego (or individual) uses shame as a tool for propagating itself and achieving it's goals. The intensity and frequency it uses shame should be one of the biggest indicators for how toxic and corrupt it is. It's another example of how negativity is an ineffective and unsustainable tool and as you said @Ethan1, love is a more viable alternative.

@MadeWithLove It could, but the positive effects might massively outweigh the negatives. Completely connecting humanity like this will allow important information to be shared with greater effect. Less developed nations will be kept up to date with important medical insights. Architects will get streamlined knowledge for building safer bridges roads. Beautiful music and art will get shared which will spawn more love and joy. People from different cultures will be illuminated to the fact we are really all the same and have nothing to fear. Of course that comes with a bunch of bad things you could imagine as well but everything in life is a trade off.

A review of Alex Grey's lifetime or artwork and how art helps evolve consciousness and connects us.

@28 cm unbuffed Learn to gamify it. Flip it on it's head. Besides is there anything better to do?

@Leo Gura That's really cool, didn't consider that. Explains why I can count the major insights and epiphanies I've had wide awake on one hand while I've done dozens lucid dreaming or half awake barely sleeping. There is a certain irony in being the most clear about life while everything is so blurry. Almost like reality is kind of playing a sick joke on itself, hah! Must be another instance of the counter-intuitive nature of life

The fact you are even in a place like this is a tremendous first step. Spend some time doing some identifying and think hard about where your biggest issues are coming from. There is an explanation for everything you just need to be willing to dig for it. I think you are willing otherwise you wouldn't be here, right?

You'd be amazed at what you can accomplish. The only thing getting in the way however, is you, and what you believe and think about yourself.

Don't know why he's bringing up feudalism other than to make a comparison that paints capitalism as barbaric. He's not really saying anything other than the obvious, "Pandemics are bad for human activity mmmkay?" Of course there are problems with the current system. It's rampant, reckless, and disregards supporting many necessary structures in pursuit of greed. That's not quite just the system but more of a problem with poor leadership and American idealism of freedom that everyone should captain their own ship, which obviously fails on a macro scale 21st century for many people. It might have been ideal for nation building in the 1800's and early 1900's but not anymore. Think of modern capitalism (in America mostly) as a work dog on a farm that isn't being tamed properly. If you don't discipline it or put it on a leash when there is food around, it will eat everything in the room and starve itself for the future. It just needs a stronger leash and a better owner (government) but it's still an effective work dog. The virus is just showing capitalism's limits. The correct path is a post-capitalist socialism in countries like Denmark where they invest a reasonable amount of the excess back into the society democratically (That will never happen in the US for at least 25-35 years though, a lot more older generations needs to die for that kind of narrative progress). The problem is we have is that there isn't really any other viable systems to generate the kind of wealth we would need to weather something like this. They are all weak dog breeds that can't work on a farm properly. The idea that we'd be better off under from this under an initially more interconnected social system, government run or not is a farce and naively goes against everything we know about human nature. The Marxist and Anarchist conversation has been played out so much it's so dry and just fucking annoying at this point. It just doesn't map onto reality and is a waste of time discussing.

@Serotoninluv I have to highly disagree with this. The content has become increasingly more interesting and advanced, but the quantity of messiness has certainly increased and things have become less polished over the past 10 months I'd say (probably starting at the conscious politics series onward). They've gotten longer and longer because he appears to be rambling a lot more and taking way too long to get to the important points. I have the patience and listen to hour+ long things all the time, but his videos are becoming less engaging. Just my opinion.

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Probably would avoid a lot more of the backlash from the outside and infighting within the community if he gave a longer disclaimer at the start. Warning people that they need to go through a lot more earlier work to even scratch the surface of the deeper stuff. Otherwise it just sounds like him running his mouth. A small bit of lip service that "this is radical" and "this is super advanced" isn't enough. The videos are 2 hours long anyways it's not like a 10 minute thorough disclaimer would really make a difference. I think it's required because probably 95% of the view-count anyways are people who have almost no real comprehension of what he's saying.

I've done Salvia. I was decently high on pot when I did it so I'm sure how much that changed the trip if any. Anyways I'll keep it short. I took the bong hit and set it down. Within 20 seconds my vision started vibrating, then disappeared. Normal reality was completely replaced. I didn't have a body anymore, no feeling of breathing, no arms, no legs, no feeling of blood and warmth. Over the course of roughly 5-10 minutes I became the objects around the room. Literally became a TV and a couch. Felt what it was like to have a rigid plastic frame and soft cushy fabric as my physical body. It seemed extremely defined. I felt the function of my existence was to project light and images as a TV, and the purpose of letting people sit on me as a couch, like it was divine and fulfilling . I was more interested at what the hell was happening rather than panicking if I was going to be trapped there. I couldn't think in English thoughts like I would if I was sober, but I had a vague sense/feeling in the back of my mind that "everything was going to be fine, I'd be sober in a few minutes". I came down shortly after apparently slowly walking around the room for a bit. Patterns begin to wind down and rather quickly all my senses restored to normal. I didn't do it back then out of any spiritual inclination. I was 18 and just want to do drugs with my best friend. Even now on "the path" I don't think it would have much practical use. It's just an interesting short little psychedelic you can take that shows you completely different states of reality as possible. More foreign and radical you can really imagine, except it won't just be imagining it will literally shatter your current reality and take you there........... for a handful of minutes. Does that sound valuable to you? If that sounds really interesting then it's worth a shot.

@Ya know It only seems insane from a certain perspective on what the word "love" means. In the way most people perceive what love is, of course it would seem insane to love the holocaust. A lot of the work is just expanding and challenging contemporary meanings of what we feel certain stuff means. The resistance comes from when people (the ego) thinks it has a full understanding of something. When really they only understand about 1% of it.

The American prison and judicial system is highly corrupt and capitalism runs so rampant many of the prisons are privatized to profiteer off of unfairly imprisoning people. They have the highest incarceration rate and prison population in the world. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_incarceration_rate Roughly 1-2 in 200 people in the US are in prison. That is ABSURD. Sure your chances of getting decapitated might not be as high as it would in a Brazilian prison, but US is NOT the country to be looking to as a model for this sector.

Basic vehicle principles to follow through life. Stick to these and it will save you a LOT of money and stress; - Unless you are swimming in literal pools of cash. NEVER by new. Value drops 25%+ just by driving off the lot. It's dumb. - Never finance if you don't have to. It's throwing away extra money. Try to find a vehicle on a private market or at a smaller dealership. You will probably be able to agree on a fair deal where you pay an amount up front and agree to zero interest or low % monthly payments on the remainder. - Always buy good value used cars roughly around $7500 price range (Honda Civics are most cost effective). You can find great deals just be diligent about searching. Used car market is massive. Be willing to travel far to get your vehicle. Your search range should be large. - Request and research vehicle history before buying (mechanic receipts if available, pester past owner with questions). - Under no circumstance DO NOT BUY unless they are selling and paid for a full safety and proof they did it. People are scummy and WILL fuck you if you aren't prudent. - Sell or scrap your car if any repairs cost more than $1500-2000 and you can afford to go without them - as in you won't lose your job not having a car for a few weeks. Put that good chunk of money towards your next vehicle. - NEVER buy a larger vehicle than your lifestyle/work absolutely requires. Quiet person with simple tech job and no outdoor hobbies? Buy a small car. Don't work in construction or labour? Don't buy a god damn gas pissing truck. Personally I've only driven SUV's because I'm a a heavy outdoors person, and I need something slightly heavier with good AWD so I never get stuck in snow (I live in northern Ontario). You are going to be in LA so you just need a gas effective small car. - Don't get emotionally attached to your vehicle. Too many people fall into this trap. Don't waste hundreds of dollars on modifications, decals, installations etc. It's transportation for christ sake. Gets your from A > B. - Realize a car is not an asset. It is a liability. Every kilometer (or mile) it decreases in value. Only use it when you need to. - Asian cars are best > then European > American brands are trash. Engines and quality from a company like Toyota last soooo long. Like 750,000+ KM (that's like 15 years of driving for a normal person). American vehicles rust out after 10 years and the engines use more gas and only last 350,000 KM. It's fucking embarassing we are even allowed to manufacture vehicles. No wonder GM has gone out of business like 4 times That's all I can think of now but drill these thoughts into your head and your future self will thank you. Hope this helps cheers!

This video here by CaspianReport (awesome Geo-politics channel) shows the maps of all the different ways humanity is connected not just to the planet, but to each other. It has become more apparent than ever how reliant we are on each other to survive and prosper. And how increasingly unaffordable it will be for us to engage in any conflict in the future, where there is less and less resources to go around. Hopefully this pandemic helps soak that reality into our evolutionary bones, and we can get that much closer to building a truly connected loving world together. Spread the love no matter where you're from !

Like Leo says, are you willing to bleed for it? Are you willing to put it all on the line to accomplish your dreams like Alex Honnold here? His whole ascent of Yosemite's El Capitan is amazing, but this clip highlights probably the most risky patch of mountain done in all of free soloing (climbing with zero gear). It involves a handful of movements that had to be planned and learned ahead of time. No improvising. Perfect execution, or death. Now obviously, you very likely won't have to endure this much risk for your own life purpose (hopefully!). But examples like this really put things into perspective. What is it gonna take for you to self-actualize into the person you want to become? Do you know what the costs are? Are you willing to pay them? If you aren't sure. Take some time to look around at other people in the world. The ones you admire. The ones who have accomplished great things. You'll find behind all the flash and talent, is laser like focus and hard work. And a LOT of sacrifice. Feel free to post below and let the world know what you're about. Let this be kind of a hype thread for anyone who needs it Clip is from the documentary "Free Solo" btw. It's on Disney+ under the National Geographic category.

Likelihood of alien life existing? Virtually guaranteed. Likelihood of aliens having already visited Earth or the possibility of it in the future? Virtually impossible. I don't think people truly comprehend how vast space is. Unless they are so advanced they've figured out a way to violate the laws of physics and travel faster than light to reach us while somehow staying in tact. Then that just raises the question what the hell would be less worthwhile to visit a bunch of apes when you have that kind of technology and understanding of the universe.

You are reaching so hard for something that doesn't exist here @UnconsciousHuman. Jordan's worldview has it's flaws but it certainly isn't downright evil or destructive, or being used by him as some malicious architecture to get power, fame, or "fuck" people over (that just wreaks of resentment and paranoia). The reason he is resonating with people so much right now is because that's apparently what they want. Our culture is swinging too radically and at too fast a pace towards progressivism at the moment. He represents a rationalist reactionary movement against that. To bring that pace more to a level where it can be integrated with ease. I'm pretty far left in many regards and even I can see this. I'd like to bring up another extremely relevant point though that is getting overlooked here; Everyone has such unrealistic expectations of their teachers, to the point it hinders their growth. Subconsciously you see someone that gets famous or is revered in some way and you go to them expecting them to be perfect and all inclusive. If they don't fit the mold of your worldview, don't pay constant lip-service to it, or don't fight your intellectual enemies at every opportunity you get resentful and angry at them. You expect everything from them. You expect they are going to teach you everything you need to know from here and lead you to the promise land. People think they are immune from doing this but it's happening all the time. It's just cloaked by their ego under the idea that they are "learning" and being "critically thinking individuals looking for truth!" There is one problem however; Every teacher, worldview, mode of thought, idea, rationalization............... is partial. Jordan Peterson is partial. He teaches some useful and interesting things about responsibility and morality, but is dismissive about many other things. Leo Gura is partial. He teaches some useful concepts and big picture ways of understanding the world, but doesn't include many practical exercises or road maps on how to execute those things. Stop demonizing and demanding so much. If someone doesn't have what you want, go look for the next teacher. Learn what you need to learn from them and ignore the rest.