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@Jamesc You could. But enlightenment is such a radical process you may find yourself being called to do something else. The good news is that whatever it is, it'll be authentic.

@Arcangelo I'm going to give you what I feel you need, not necessarily what you asked for. Be aware that by you not approaching right away, it's highly likely she knew you were initially scared to talk to her. Hot girls are used to getting approached and they know all the subtle "signs" that guys give away when they want to talk to her. We're not that sneaky. Good move there. This also says to me that you're still bought into the "provider" strategy for getting laid. You want to show the girl how much you love kids because you believe that's what she's looking for in a man. The reality is that most young girls are not looking for that, and even if they were, they're definitely not looking for it within the first two hours of meeting someone. Unless you're already in deep rapport with some a girl, I would never be having a political debate with her. Everything should generally be light, playful "me-you" communication. Here's an example. Girl: I'm really pro-life, I don't think there's any reason for an abortion. You: How did you decide that? Girl: Well I was raised Catholic growing up. And they taught us that at church. You: Oh no, the last Catholic girl I met said she was trying to have 12 kids. You're not trying to do that, are you? Girl: What?! Haha no, that's way too many. You: Are you sure? That guy over there *point to random dude nearby* looks like he's got money for child support. Maybe you should talk to him. Girl: Omg you're such an asshole! You: I'm just kidding, come here you crazy baby maker *hug* Something like this is way better than trying to have a "logical conversation" about whether you should be pro-choice or pro-life. Seduction isn't about logic, it's about emotions. You should default to never asking a girl what to do, ever. There are certain situations where asking is the right move, but this isn't one of them. She's not nearly invested enough. You're the man, you lead. "Please be the man and make the decision". It's good that you made a choice. The reason I don't like getting coffee in this situation is that it doesn't move the interaction forward at all. You guys already had lunch, coffee is like a step backwards. Better would have been to set plans for the future and then grab the number. It's not wrong to pay, but you do have to be aware of how it's coming off to the girl. If she gets the sense you're doing it just to sleep with her, that's bad. Always set plans in person if you can. Trying to coordinate over text with a hot girl you just cold approached is like trying to triangulate the Sun's position relative to Venus. I don't know if that's even a real thing but it sounds difficult She actually doesn't want to see you, but she's going to tell you she does so that you don't get upset. Personally, I'd cut her off. Being stood up twice is a major disrespect to your time and boundaries. Move on.

If all a guy is looking for is to settle down with some cute girl with some basic commonalities, I agree. You could eventually get that doing what you said. I've done it myself in the past. But in my current reality, that's selling yourself way, way too short. It might be a good stepping stone if you're new to game, but you'll never consistently date the most attractive women you can doing that. The results I'm personally after require a much different strategy and lifestyle design.

@Vingger Still waiting on his collab with Kendrick and Lil John.

@Shin What is your alternative suggestion?

@Shakazulu I moved this thread to the Dating / Sexuality because it was a bit off topic. Can you explain more what you're asking?

Could be a huge positive. Comedy requires good timing, not taking things too seriously, expansive energy, speaking the elephant in the room, etc. All things that can come as you wake up and self-actualize. If it's important to you, yes. You don't have to be "like them". In fact, by not being "like them", you'll likely have a far, far more successful career.

@WildeChilde I'd obviously like to brain dump everything I know now into his head. But that would defeat the purpose of the journey. So instead I'd just say, "everything you're worried about isn't true".

@spicy_pickles Awesome man, keep up the good work.

@blacksapp Feel free to disagree, but I don't think you actually dislike being around people. I think you dislike socializing because you've had some bad experiences in the past. The truth is that it doesn't have to be that way. Socializing can be amazing, it's one of my favorite things to do.

You gotta find a way to move as soon as possible is what you have to do. Society wants you to cage the beast. They want you to be a little bitch. Fuck that.

@Jonson Good question. Maybe the fact that you can't come up with an answer is a clue.

@herghly It really depends on all the factors I outlined above. And you can start seeing changes very quickly. But personally, any affirmation I start I want to do at least 6 months. A year is probably even better.

@Hardkill It's not contradictory advice. Both those statements are true in different contexts. Yes, sometimes in a club or a bar re-approaching can work because everything is changing. Maybe that girl who blew you off was just in a bad mood. If you're not reapproaching, you leave so much on the table as far as possible options. But if you're getting kicked out of gyms, you need to chill out. A gym is a social circle setting where you should be playing the long game, not burning the place to the ground with aggressive opens. Context dude. And you'll only really get the context the more you take action. That's how this abstract theory becomes real.

@herghly Drug dealer

@herghly No one here can speak for Leo. But I'm definitely a believer in affirmations. The hardest part of making affirmations work for you is actually doing them. People don't get results with them because they say them a few times and stop. Affirmations should be repeated so often they become your mantras. You should find yourself saying them in regular conversation with people. Or saying things like "one of my mantras is ...". It's that sheer volume that really makes an impact on how you see the world. The other struggle I've seen with affirmations is that a good affirmation should make you uncomfortable. It should push your current self-image. For instance, let's say you use the affirmation "I love myself completely and totally". If you have some with a poor self-image say that, it's actually going to make them feel uncomfortable because they don't believe it. There's too much cognitive dissonance. So you have to get over that initial hump of feeling like you're telling yourself this massive lie. You will change your mind as long as you don't quit on it.

@Jonson First prove that there are these things called "other people".

Praise thee. We mortals are not worthy of your divine Enlightened presence.

@Slade Yes and no. You never want to take one concept and run too far with it. And this is definitely one of them. Suffering undoubtedly can produce growth in people. All my biggest personal leaps have occurred after periods of suffering and I definitely wouldn't be who I am without them. There's different explanations for this. In a book called Anti-fragile Nassam Taleb presents an argument that we need a certain level of disorder, chaos and breakdown in order to come back stronger. In spiritual work, people talk about the purification of the subconscious mind or the raising of vibration. So there's definitely something to the idea that suffering = growth. And it can be a powerful belief to help you cope in those hard times. But here's why I say you don't want to run too far with it. The point of suffering is ultimately so that you don't have to suffer anymore! When you go through experiences like that, they force you to let go of attachment. By letting go of attachment, happiness becomes your default way of being in the world. Life is meant to be light, joyful and easy. Not a constant bashing where you're in pain all the time. But if you think you need pain, that is what you'll get. So use suffering as a tool. But also be willing to let go of masochism and move up into the light.

@Patang That's a bold statement. Why are you here making this post then?

@Sahil Pandit I have a formal education (Master's degree), but I've also done a lot of independent learning online. I'd say there's pros and cons to each like anything else. Pros: Save time traveling. Less expensive so you don't have to go into debt. The ability to learn at your own pace and whatever subject you choose. Cons: Not having a peer group. Not getting the power of an "in-person" lecture. So if I were you, I'd make sure I balanced my online learning with in-person learning as well. Maybe go to some personal development seminars or join a club. Get best of both worlds.

@Omario Good. And don't come back until it's done.

It sounds like you have some good self-awareness on this. You may be on a collision course for a serious system shock. Meaning, something is going to happen so that the pain of not changing is finally going to become greater than the pain of changing. If that happens, roll with it. Have a breakdown, punch a wall, cry, do whatever you gotta do. And then message me again when it all turns out for the best anyway

@Max_V Read Loving What Is by Byron Katie. Also, any of the classic books on the Law of Attraction like Ask and it is Given would help.

@Shroomdoctor I just write down anything I find particularly profound or useful. I'm not going to take notes on the whole book unless it's really that good.