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  3. Posted · Edited by Nivsch

    10 minutes ago, Nabd said:

    This is utterly bullshit.

    Please stop being extremely biased that you don't even read history.

    People knew about the British intention of creating Israel and of course no one will allow such a state which is made up of people who are foreigners, which made them colonizers.

    These are slogans surrounded by warm air. This is language manipulation.

    You are invited to break down those high (and also misleading) words if you want to discuss seriously.

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    12 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

    But that's clearly how they feel.

    It's like you kicked a dog and then tell onlookers, "I'm not convinced he's in pain", while the dog is running after you, snapping his teeth at you.

    Maybe you should just listen to the dog.

    But nobody kicked anyone before the Palestinians decided to start a war and almost won (wikipedia). Only when the Jews were cornered and almost killed, only then they started to play dirty occasionaly but at this point this is a jungle. And in the jungle everyone will do anything. This is an uttetly CIVIL war. The whole thinking process is being shut down by the ancient brain.

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    8 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

    It's not vague at all. You can see Israeli settlements growing like a cancer into Palestinian territory, and then those settlers engage in violence too.

    I agreed that it has to stop but does it really a physical opression? It is not like we settled in their villages and cities, but only couple of km around them in parts of the open area.

    I am still not convinced they are "opressed", not even close to the level someone will want to kill women and children because of that, but I do agree there is an unfairness that has to stop.

  7. Posted · Edited by Nivsch

    11 minutes ago, Nabd said:

    But when you see a Pole who took your home and your family members were killed then you are traumatized that killing children is normal to you.

    But that is the thing. Nobody did that before the Arabs decided to start the war and almost won. Only than, the Jews started to play more dirty and occasionaly. Not as a method.

    The ones who started the chain of trauma were the Palestinians.

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    1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

    There's no mystery to it. When you back people into a corner and oppress them for decades, they don't sit quitely, they lash out.

    Psychology 101.

    It's like if you had a child who you locked in a cage for years, and then you act surprised when the child breaks free and attacks you.

    Can you give example(s) to this oppresion? A really tangible one.

    Because really what I hear in this thread is never a clear explanation but rather always something very vague like an aljazeera's soundtruck.

  10. Posted · Edited by Nivsch

    In 1948 the Arabs started the war when the Jews were mostly in deffense and after almost lost it all and only then changed tactic in which neither of the sides was an angel in this Jungle conditions.

    I understand that the terror today is because of Israel and the terror before Israel is just a natural course of a conflict. Ok. Doesnt make so much sense to me but everyone can think whatever they want. Not gonna push anything.

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    25 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

    It is this view which is the root of this whole problem. This whole notion that terrorism comes out of some black hole is patently false. Israel's policies and actions directly contribute to the creation of terrorism. Just as US actions did with 9/11.

    In the other hand, serious terror activities against the Jews here were also in the 1920s and 1930s, Israel went highly towards the Palestinians five time with five different agreements in the 1990s and the answer was the 2nd Intifada, and couple of more times with peace proposals during the 2000s which every one of those deals means automatically stopping settlements expansion forever, but the Palestinians refused, and refused, and refused.

  13. Posted · Edited by Nivsch

    @Danioover9000 I agree with most of your things you wrote here.

    The problem though as I see it, is that, hezbollah can still attack on the ground with dozens of Israeli killed (even if IDF is well spreaded there already) and also and maybe the main problem now, to shoot an anti tank missiles against civilians which proved to be a well known tactic of him.

    This is why I don't know if anything but a preventive attack on him can remove this threat to the residents who want to live there safely.

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    44 minutes ago, zazen said:

    Now Israel want to go for Hezbollah and drag in the US and possibly Iran. Bibi stated he wants complete control of the land from West of the Jordan river to the sea - as good as saying from the river to the sea - something pro Palestinians are criminalised for saying but that the other side can say lol. 

    So now to attack Hezbollah is also evil?

    Radwan force in the south of Lebanon was aimed (and still can) do the same thing hamas did in oct 7th to the northern Israel residents, and it must be pushed from to borders to the Litani river. If it won't happen diplomaticly it will happen in force what probably will happen.

    I knew from the beginning this is not about the people in the other side not nearly as much as it is about Israel, and if you are against this attack you prove my point.

  16. Posted · Edited by Nivsch

    I think Thomas was frustrated from the misleading view of the interviewer and the world crowd opinion that just can't see what we see every day here and he was just so desperate from the opacity of everyone that are hijacked by the anti-Israel propaganda, including the relation to Arabs that is better here in many facets even in comparison to many Arab states around, and the world just don't understand this and keep parroting these nonesense slogans.

    So he felt he has no choice but to somehow "explode" on him here and it was great he just nailed it. He spoke what every Israeli feels inside him.

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    1 hour ago, kenway said:

    UNICEF disagrees. Do you know more than UNICEF?

    Also, UNICEF have been to Gaza. Have you?

    UNICF, similar to UNRWA is a totally co operator with terror supporters. I am not an expert on that at all but I have read many evidents to that I will try to find a post I saw just couple of days ago. In meanwhile:

    https://www.ngo-monitor.org/reports/unicef-opt-continues-its-partnership-with-terror-tied-groups-and-other-disturbing-developments/

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    4 minutes ago, jaylimix said:

    The thing is ground troops need to move in with air support otherwise it is just a suicide mission.

    Terrorists would pop in and out of buildings and tunnels and shoot with bullets and RPGs;

    you see even with air support, over 170 soldiers have died fighting in Gaza. 

    So in conclusion the buildings and tunnels must be destroyed before moving in;

    👍 A decent point.

  23. Posted · Edited by Nivsch

    21 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

    The Palestinians are so underdeveloped they shoot themselves in the foot a bunch.

    I though about it today, and I think there is a problem in the assumption that just because the palestinians are stage red and therefore allegedly more "stupid" (or something similar) they are not responsible for what is happening. 

    Because development is anyway always a relative notion and Israel is also underdeveloped relative to a tier 2 society for example, and we can continue this forever.

    I am talking about my thinking and not trying to say I am more or less right, but what I think is that even a stage red person still has its infinite brain resources and intelligence to promote its goals. His body for example is still magically incomprehensibly intelligent. So too his brain and mind in the same way.

    What I am trying to say is that the thought that hamas are just stupid suicial organization is far from the truth. They just aren't developed morally and in their consciousness to themselves and others essense and value, but with their ability to manipulate their way to survive they can still be genius. And they are in a sense. 

    Look how clever their deffense mechanism is in the way thay act physically and getting mixed with civilians and, also (many will argue but) in how they make the crowd opinion be twisted against their enemy. I am not saying Israel doesn't have part in this, but the distance between the accustions against Israel and reality is enormous to my opinion.

    If we extrapulate this out to the whole conflict, then we cannot any more see the palestinians as just "reactants" to Israel policies, but an active participant in this tango has equal reaponsibility to initiate trust building actions by itself too and not just to cry about things the other side is doing. 

    By the way, they cry, or complain (if to be fair and use a neutral word) equaly and even harder just after revolutionary agreements, what proves that the core of the problem is an inner problem with their mind that try always to preserve his bad homeostasis state (for example the 2nd Intifada after the large series of agreements in the 90's).

    Every one has equal responsibility to challenge himself and get himself out of an unfunctional disordered situation, be it an inner within him or an outer disorder. Because the truth is, no one can help the palestinians out their disfunctional thinking patterns but themselves.

    And for the protocol, yes, the Jews, like every other group, have their own weaknesses too, but they are found in another areas.

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    13 minutes ago, Bobby_2021 said:

    They should have done nothing at all and watch it all unfolding Infront of their eyes. How do you plan to get the hostages back? Or should you let them take hostages routinely and let them parade the women they killed? 

    Bombing is letting them know of the consequences they could be facing and that might be their end. War is about to continue into the future. I only hope something comes out of it. Both of them fire rockets at each other routinely. Just that the ones fired by Israel lands often.

    +1 🧡

  25. Posted · Edited by Nivsch

    23 minutes ago, Bobby_2021 said:

    Do you know the efforts US put into studying Bin Laden's residence before they went ahead with the special operations. You cannot launch the special forces on a whim.

    When you are in enemy territory, the enemy is the superior one purely by looking at the numbers. Your superiority does not count to anything. Home advantage is the true superiority. Special forces works only when the enemy is isolated, relatively unarmed with little security. None of which resembles Hamas.

    +1 🧡

    For everybody who is saying Israel can just get in without a very broad scale air phase first.