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    1 hour ago, kenway said:

    Are you sure you watched it all?

    The video is 1 hour and 9 minutes long. It's been 29 minutes since I posted it.

    The truth hurts, my brother.

    I started, hoped to a serious video but 5 seconds barely passed and a stupid girl say "they have to dieee" and then I realized it gonna be another childish propagandist video.

    But I am not loosing hope, and I will watch anyway.

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    30 minutes ago, kenway said:

     

    The Psychology of Israeli Propaganda

    The thirst for justice and the emotions when someone isn't educated about this so tricky issue is very understandble.

    But this is only a phase, and if holywood people are intelligent and sensitive (and I believe part of them are) then they will understand the truth later in their life.

    A bunch of holywood folks are already understand and much more emphatetic of Israel.

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    3 minutes ago, Merkabah Star said:

    Small price to pay for your countrymen held hostage that you say you care about. Give them anything to get those people home to their families. 

    But they would not agree that is what I am saying. Because the price they demanded on only 1 soldier was already a thousand.

    So 240 for thousands? Sounds not realistic to me. I believe if it could happen it would already done.

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    8 hours ago, Happy Lizard said:

    @Nivsch  form all of what I read form your posts I see a clear dislike/hate of Arabs/Palestinians. This is rendering your judgment/view empty. 
    what use is all the facts if at the end of the day if you just can’t stand the other side? 

    You are also conveniently putting all Palestinian and Hamas in the same bucket making all the victims “their” people/property. Could there not be a bias here and is exactly what most in this thread have been pointing out? 

    Ironically this is making all your facts and worldview highly emotional with the same flaws you’ve been pointing out in the narrative of the other side.

    What you wrote is applying to both sides in the argument here.

    But at least I am not denying problems of our side, but I stress about context and proportionality of the critisism what I try to do myself. 

    What happens on this thread is not at all a fair nor mature critisism but rather a complete dehumanization based on cherry picked radical examples technique.

    I dont hate Arabs at all. This is not about arabs at ALL.

    I have rather an emotional charge on the Palestinians, yes. I know many of them are really innocents including the million brainwhashed toxicated for life poor children.

    In the other hand, the seperation between hamas and adult Gazans is a myth. Still we have to be careful and not to make generalizations but every survey and even tangible behaviours will show you that hamas ideology is quite well sits in the mind of many of the civilians there.

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    10 minutes ago, Merkabah Star said:

    I thought they had in exchange for a permanent ceasefire? 

    You miss a lot in your bubble consciousness world. The mind control is deep. 

    Not logical.

    When we had to release only 1 soldier (Gilad Shalit) we needed to release 1000+ terrorists.

    So now they would just agree to free 240 for couple of thousands?

    I can't see this can happen.

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    36 minutes ago, Lila9 said:

    I'm afraid to know what these innocent girls are going through in Hamas captivaty. Per the testemonies of the realeased hostages, Hamas terrorists are sexually abusing girls and young women.

    Such devilry, everything is justified to "free Palestine". Gross. 

    https://www.instagram.com/reel/C11rAO2tFkE/?igsh=MWplaGRlOXo2dGI0cQ==

    https://t.me/novafestival2023/13923

    The worst kind of suffering possible that is for sure. The suffering of the hostages sitting there for, in their mind, eternity, and can be executed at any moment is totally another league. 130 of them.

    Not similar to anything else we see from both sides even in this war.

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    2 minutes ago, Merkabah Star said:

    @Lila9

    so sad for those girls, must be horrendous for them. They would have been home already if your country bothered to negotiate properly and release them via a ceasefire. Which was an easy enough outcome. But nope. The hostage situation helps fuel the destruction and death of all the children and women. 

    Sad.

    Why do you think hamas would just agree to release them?

    Does not sound reasonable to me.

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    @zazen A palestinian state = no more settlements expansion. They refused to that.

    30 minutes ago, zazen said:

    'The Israeli settlement of Ariel, deep inside a potential Palestinian state, was a controversial issue for Olmert and Abbas' - why would any state have a settlement or area from a former state they had such hostility with which could put their future state at risk. Would Ukrainians ever agree to have a Russian settlement in Ukraine after the war ends?

    How is the city of Ariel can risk the palestinian state?

    If someone needs to be really afraid is Ariel's residents.

    Some extremist settlers (a very tiny minority) that do violent are not at all a security risk to the new state.

    But if you mean that Ariel has to evacuate, then this is of course not realistic at all, and just proves even more that the Palestinians will make any excuse to not reach a deal.

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    19 minutes ago, kenway said:

    And generally, seen through that neutral lens, it becomes obvious that Israel is not just a little bit mischievous, but actually very very very fucking evil. 

    Not at all from neutrality.

    From a combination of two main positions depending on the population (but there are more less dominant):

    1. Stage red to blue point of view holds by hundreds of millions from where aljazeera for example takes its influence.

    2. Stage green good intentions but naive "victim-opressor" scheme that doesn't hold at all in this conflict and actually very twisted in many senses in reality.

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    19 minutes ago, hundreth said:

    They don't care about your arbitrary time cutoff of when it's ok to conquer a land. They don't want peace and coexistence. They want the land.

    +1 ❤

    I agree also with the rest but this part is worth emphasizing.

    It also worth emphasize that Israel, as oppose to the palesinians, has shown very serious desire for peace over the years and there was always one side who rejected all of its proposals.

    This is true though that the deep right wing in Israel is also problematic and makes the process harder, but still not even close to the degree the palestinians screw up the process again and again.

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    8 hours ago, Lila9 said:

    how can such people be trusted with a state?

    https://www.ynetnews.com/magazine/article/hypel11uu6

    Would you trust terrorists who are capable of this? Would you allow them more power, given they are passionate about killing you and are living near you, your children, family, and friends?

    People genuinely seeking peace don't behave in such a manner. They don't attack Israeli civilians and start war out of nowhere. 

    +1 🧡

    Peace isn't their interest. Peace isn't their motivation in life. Their life meaning isn't about to just live in a functional country. Not at all.

    Israel is like a short circuit gets in the way of the Islamic fundamental point of view having its roots many centuries ago. I will try to find an english version of the interesting interview I heard from a mediteranean expert his claims and perspective are really worth considering.

  22. Posted · Edited by Nivsch

    @zazen Nothing is good enough for the Palestinians. Even when many countries were mediates in the negotiations including Russia and the Arab League. 

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annapolis_Conference

    They just know that if they agree a deal, it mean the acceptance of Israel and the Jews right to settle here in an independent state.

    Their true goal is to diminish Israel completely.