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@GenuinePerspectiveXC i like you Now weren't we discussing politics?

@fluidmonolith There is a Nobel prize waiting for you if you can disprove quantum mechanics.

I love myself as i love you. (You are me). So no reason to jump a bridge - but if death took me i would embrace because i have already died and it is pure bliss and Love. IQ doesn't mean anything unless you give it meaning.

That's the question of all questions. The answer is this: That person, just like you and me, is consciousness...and therefore is pure Love..or Is Isness...it just IS. And iS is love. So you can't measure reality with a number.

@GenuinePerspectiveXC When you transcend the fear of death you just have pure Love. Simply because you know you are God or Infinity. Money and success becomes meaningless.

None of those lead to inner peace and ego transcendence. So that's something you still have to learn. Is a person dying of cancer not allowed to be happy or feel successful? Is a person of less wealth less equal? Quality of mate choice and symmetry ? - now you are digging your own grave and even @possibilities is not gonna save you.

@GenuinePerspectiveXC Wishing you have a higher "IQ" which is a concept that was made up by culture..yes..IQ is literally something we as humans made up..is indeed Ego wanting more IQ because culture told him intelligence was measured by a number.

@possibilities So glad the greatest minds have joined us. So are you going to measure intelligence objectively like you tried to do with matter?

@GenuinePerspectiveXC can you describe immersing yourself in a low IQ society?

@Serotoninluv And that's an unfortunate byproduct of today's culture.

@kieranperez While you are right about the nature of reality and your metaphysics - and IQ - which is definitely not a measure of one's evolution- relatively speaking i think it's you that needs a hug here..or at least a bigger hug. You seem to be very hostile - attacking people pretty consistently here and tearing them a new asshole where it's really not warranted. He was having a political debate with Leo and you jumped on him. I've watched this be a similar pattern with you - notable example when i tried to provide some advice to you and brought metaphysics into the answer you cut me a new asshole stating you didn't want a spiritual answer. Yet spirituality is a core aspect of an individual's evolution and growth to the highest stages - in essence it is intricately intertwined with everything.. A person's level of consciousness is what is behind everything - from their political views to their metaphysical views, to their personal growth and self actualization and life purpose. It's all consciousness. So while you may be correct in your particular assessments, making personal attacks against an individual can be counter productive. It also could be a sign of inner self frustration. That said - i hope you learn something from these words but you probably won't because wisdom and love is something that often comes with time and life experience. So go ahead and tear me a new one. I'm ready.

We have to have some form of objectivity or people would just do whatever the hell they want. So government creates objectivity so that when there are disagreements we can go to an "objective" third party...and those "objective" laws that are enforced by the court system and the police are agreed on as a consensus and passed into law. So don't confuse the Absolute with governmental objectivity.

@GenuinePerspectiveXC i think he thought when you said idealism you were referring to reality being consciousness and not made of matter. You were using the word in a different context - an ideologue as someone who advocates to a certain political idealogy without really understanding it. Am i correct? Confusion in context it appears. Either way i figured you spoke in jest

God is not only with you - God IS you! You ARE the universe! You ARE reality!

It means getting a consensus so that it appears objective. It's artificial objectivity It is then taken as objective. In the context of the Absolute everything is relative except the Absolute itself - but politics is in the domain of the relative as are we as humans.

Indeed. And for the "others" the Truth cannot be spoken but it must be spoken as language is all we have..so sometimes this leads to the snake eating its own tail

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@Dragallur I'm not saying that. Actually i became directly conscious that everything is consciousness. "Physical" reality and science are all happening within consciousness. Reality is a Mind. Its substance is nothing. This is called awakening and many others have also had this realization. This is an Absolute that you can become conscious of. You can also become conscious that it has certain facets that are the very fabric of it. One is infinite Love. Once this realization happens the materialist paradigm is shattered and melts away. But..again..this is gonna sound insane until you discover it yourself.

@Dragallur ok but if particles being wave functions that could collapse into a particular probability or eigenstate doesn't make you question materialism doesn't quantum entanglement and Einsteins spooky action at a distance spark you to ponder this? Now we can talk about the science all day but once you actually have a mystical experience and collapse back from a possibility into pure potential (like that wave function) then it really hits you that oh wow this is what Quantum physics points to. Because you realize that you are the very thing you are trying to measure. Now that said its going to sound completely crazy to someone locked in materialism and I'm not saying you are. But with @possibilities it is all delusion to him precisely because he hasn't experienced it directly - so course he would think its crazy. Of course! From his perspective it is. If he didn't he wouldn't be a materialist!

Infinity is not bound by time or space. The only reason you are asking the question is because from your finite form there is time and space. But you can become conscious that you are eternal right now.

Pure consciousness is the container and fabric within such sensations exist so it's ever present. Also the highest non-dual states are divine form and formlessness simultaneously - thus realizations flow.

This has been explained before. God is itself so it needs to divide itself in order to share Love with itself. In order to do that it has to create lesser beings or limit itself..if it was not limited beings there would be no distinctions so God would be back where he started. When you have finite beings they arent conscious of Love yet so they commit murder and torture..which is still an unconscious form of Love.

@GenuinePerspectiveXC i agree with that. It wasn't Obama either.

@GenuinePerspectiveXC you lack compassion and love my friend - that's what will keep you trapped in Orange. You need to be able to jump between perspectives. Not all homeless are lazy. Some are - but not all.