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@SOUL perhaps you are being a little hard on him? We cannot know if he had a genuine awakening. What he described to me in PM seemed to indicate it was genuine. Either way we cannot know only "he" knows for the Truth is intimate as you know.

Bravo well said my friend.

@SoonHei one if my favorite movies of all time. Absolute Love. Lots of tears lol.

Indeed. The devil is an unconscious God.

@SOUL well said. i didn't see his post either. We wouldn't want someone to confuse inner peace with nihilism. If its not properly broken down it could lead to that. On another more metaphysical note i noticed something interesting about the statement "Nothing Matters" if taken literally. If taken literally it is kind of like the paradox "I am lying" or "This statement is a lie". I'm sure you guys have heard of the above lie paradox which basically means if the liar is indeed lying, then the liar is telling the truth, in which case the liar just lied. A paradox if you will Well metaphysically i would say the same exists for the statement "Nothing Matters" if nothing matters literally, then the statement "Nothing Matters" also does not matter, paradoxocally making it matter. In other words the very act of disregarding the statement would matter. He he just some thought fun. I know that is not what was meant by the thread.

It will not matter. There won't be a you in a non-dual state as you will be pure Consciousness.

@This Very suiting name you have there! It's THIS

In your imagination - which is nowhere

I'm not going to round and round on this. If you think that consciousness is happening inside the body - you're just wrong. I can't make you wake up to that. It will have to just happen. Doesn't mean i don't love you.

Write off ! You are Consciousness!!

Forget the no self for a sec - We are pointing to something metaphysical here. Truth. By saying the statement "nothing matters" you brought the statement into existence. Giving it meaning. Paradoxical? I think we are going deeper here .. I think in your mind meaning and matter might be two different things from the Absolute side - (how you wish to interpret it is relative) because maybe you haven't gotten to the root of reality yet. But for something to exist means it has meaning. So whether you needed to say or not or there was no self to say it doesn't matter. That is relative. It's existence by you thinking of it gave it meaning. I hope i'm not twisting your mind around! This is paradoxical stuff.

After God is done dreaming this. Or after You are done dreaming this - you will wake up and it will be gone. And then you will dream something else. Like the child playing with the Etch A Sketch toy Build up - tear down

Well you can say if you say nothing matters than it matters that it doesn't matter. Otherwise there wouldn't be a need to say it. Aka Being. That which is fundamental

That's not what he was saying..read it again

Well said.

@remember is a woman. Just a heads up.

@fridjonk you are spot on dude - just for the record. @LfcCharlie4. As always you make great points. That said reality is fundamentally mystical and infinite. Understanding it conceptually is not the same as Being. But i know you know that. I don't know if you have had a mystical experience or not but for those who can without pyschedelics it is rare. I seem to be one of them. But i also fully support Leo's exploration of Consciousness because it will ultimately push humanity forward as i have said before. I could be wrong but i think I've hit the limits of where i can go without pyschedelics. That is why i fully support him. I have directly confirmed everything he has claimed without pyschedelics - other than seeing myself create all the hairs on my hand. Total omniscience. And since i have directly confirmed everything else i have no reason to doubt him further. That may be somewhere only pyschedelics can take you.

Then you will miss out on Being. (Something that you are, but are not conscious that you are) That's a trap. Let me explain. Being, or the Absolute, or God is Isness. It just Is. Absolute Love. Being. Infinity. Samadhi. There are many words for the Absolute. It is mystical because it totally transcends (or is prior to) all rationality. Now, Being or the Absolute is prior to saying something matters or doesn't matter. So to say the Absolute doesn't matter is like the analogy of a castle made of bricks and you are the castle. Then as the castle you say bricks don't matter. But what you can't see as the castle is that you are bricks! without bricks you couldn't even exist. So if you say Absolute Truth doesn't matter you are trying to talk about the whole from the part - it doesn't work - so keep that in mind. The Absolute can't be spoken. It can only be Be'd. And that can only be partially described as God miraculously awakening to itself. Again talking about it and saying it matters or doesn't matter cannot capture isness or Being.

Lmfao!! ?❤

THIS - is Infinity. Infinity is Consciousness. Consciousness is God. Infinity is a singularity. All mean the same thing. Thus you are it. God isn't a person or a he or a she. Or a bearded guy in the clouds. God is simply everything that is. And it is both consciousness itself and Self-conscious. Its a Mind. An Infinite Mind. Yes i agree with @LfcCharlie4 there are certain enlightened teachers that have not yet awakened to all facets of Truth or may actually be somehow still stuck in some aspects of the materialist paradigm.

It would take insane levels of consciousness (Godlike) to manipulate this dream. It would require much higher than normal human levels. Healing is something Leo is working on but to an awake person it is glaringly possible. As far as growing back limbs that might be even more difficult - but i refrain from saying anything is impossible.. healing various illnesses and ailments from within finite form however i am conscious is quite feasible.

I don't disagree - because it is an open public forum. But yet shutting the subforum down might be adding too much restriction as in if one person awakens from it than it is was worth it. I'm saying if someone asked him he wouldn't be restricted to not answer. Other people may also answer - and ultimately the seeker needs to find his own way. But he would not push it on anyone - because nothing needs to be done.

@TheAvatarState great post. I have contemplated this often. Too much talk even if its as deep as it can get on the nature of reality - can confuse new seekers more than help. Yet as you say - here we are - Ide say this - if the guy from the 10th ox herding pic were alive today and had access to the internet i think he would freely be speaking of Truth to those who listened. But also he would say that ultimately all words and concept must be transcended into Being/Actuality. Thus balance is everything. Knowing is second order to Being.

Indeed!

@remember infinity has no beginning and no end. So everything is nothing and nothing is everything..