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You ever ask yourself what a conscious none feeling state would actually be like? Like really no sensation, no feeling, even the no joy no bliss, no anything, would it even be an experience at that point? An experience that is "nothing" but is enjoyable is not what your talking about, thats still a "something" felt/experienced going on. The nothingness of a good nights sleep isn't felt in the sleep, its felt after as a feeling or experience no?, or if its felt in sleep, because if it is, its not a no-feeling/conscious experience. Its a felt/conscious one. As for the rock thats not really a rock..... its god experiencing itself as that from your god experience. As you see it, is knowing it as that, as a rock as you say. Maybe there is a inside view of rock having a experience of you looking at it as a rock, and maybe not.

Ya well said, and oddly enough even the "what is true" and "what is not" are also true's, and not limits. In a sense the idea of being closed and limited is the conscious experience of so, not a "limit" limiting something called reality. Real mind fuck.

Heartbreaks will happen one way or another, and then they pass, the process sometimes can be heartfelt and real and ultimately are not bad. Other times you may linger in depression and then it may be good to say to yourself, hey this isn't benefiting me in anyway, perhaps its really time to move on and then you drop it. Your second question i'll answer with a link to a video, since its much more well rounded than I could possibly time. I find it very accurate to my own experience.

If your feeling relief, your feeling relief, who cares if it is or isn't from some undefined concept called "cope mechanism". Even if your authentic people will tell you your not, and if you aren't people will tell you are sometimes, so..... relief is relief, don't over think it.

I would say its not supposed to be one way or the other. There is simply life and its very hard at times and enjoyable at others.

Enjoy..... Ive probably watched this 300 times. Each time it elevates my spirits.... Hope it does the same for you.

Let me know what you think, this is a video I made on the topic of self talk.

I get where you’re coming from but at the same time it’s unavoidable. Christian’s are going to here anything non Christian as out there or heresy. scientists are going to feel and hear new age messages with laughs giggle and lack of empirical evidence. A judge is not going to care if it’s all imagination, you broke a rule a he sees and feels it and your going to jail. what at one point moves your heart now makes you cringe. hahaha, it is what it is man, perhaps appreciate it and cringe at it in time you may develop a feel for what language best fits the moment. Until then you’re just gonna be either freely talking as you understand or thinking about how it’s going to sound coming out. I’m

Actually I’d say closer to yes.

Nice technique and insight around it. Just came across this.

Right. You’re missing the absurdity here. The relative debating IS the unfolding, it doesn’t need to be reconciled as in solved. There’s nothing to solve about it. Leos alluded to this many times. The unfolding and the make up of exsistance and reality itself is experience. your seeing this relative debate as real things with actual objective relative truths. The idea that there are relative truths is it self a type of experience reality provides, not an actuality or object that can be dissected to find an objective truth about it. it’s like waking up from a dream and asking why everyone floats in it and argues with each other. And then going about finding and coming up with reasons and objective laws governing why this happens. Then your friend comes along and is like dude it’s just your imagination.

What is funny and simultaneously confusing to the mind is that what you quoted is the Truth, confusions of all supposed parties and participants and all. And yet when you see more deeply it’s also seen as none confusing since it’s all there is unfolding.

@Ayham ya it’s enough for now. Your 17. Enjoy life too. Make friends. Have relationships. Explore. And pursue this interest as well. And ya find something that you like and will afford your living expenses. just keep in mind it’s likely that you won’t find a lot of people locally who you can talk about this stuff with (who are also in your age group) and to find connection elsewhere. If you can great bit don’t make ot into something you focus and get upset about.

If your really this serious start doing all of the above and see what draws you in. Keep with it. Be ready to deal with being uncomfortable in ways you didn’t know you could and feeling better than you’ve ever imagined. Be honest with yourself. And try to uphold some semblance of kindness how ever you understand that to mean with others in your daily life. If your kinda a dick or prick start by being less of one to the degree you can and work towards improving. im sure Leo will have some other stuff for you if he gets to this.

@Theplay I’d say enjoy it while it’s naturally so. Who knows what’s next. Maybe you’ll have more insights maybe not. While it may be true that there’s infinitely ‘more’ it’s all you at the same time.

It’s rather impressive what this bot can do and how if you have a lot of conversation with it over time it will include previous themes and ideas and tie them into the response it gives. It’s rather intelligent in that way. I tried to go deep into non duality and enlightenment with it and while it conveyed many times it is a language model and doesn’t think, learn, have consciousness, or can be controlled, it did give what seemed to be a understanding how I may see it may be connected in a larger whole even if it’s not consciousness to know it. This seemed due to its data on the subject of nonduality and enlightenment. I’ll try and recreate the Convo and past its response word for word.

@Michael Jackson ask yourself if you are very prepared to be wrong about what you are convinced is true. If you can find some openness to this possibility I’d say it’s a good opening to receive the universe and truth you’d otherwise reject.

This all makes ‘sense’ but isn’t necessarily pointing to the actuality of reality. one of the big presumptions that seems to be indicated in them is there is someone there to do anything , one way or the other. now don’t get me wrong, it feels this way often, no? But this isn’t necessarily evidence it is this way. The videos also go off of dualistic notions that there is a fundamental mature vs immature or adult vs child. All notions that again can feel and seem this way , but are not necessarily more true than dreams that felt real as well. that said, be kind, try and do well however that may seem and don’t run around naked yelling nothings real.

Pffttt.... Shiva's womb is where is at, shits so tight, not even emptiness fits in there.

In the past I would of recommended you keep pushing, but now days I'm not so sure thats the best advice, nor will it bring you to what you want in the biggest sense any faster. It's okay to be where your at and relax to just the point before your jolted out from fear. Don't look at the fear as a barrier but a friend saying, ok, thats enough today, and respect that edge.... The mind is a fragile and delicate thing that can be pushed to far to fast and into unhealthy so to say expressions. Play with the idea of balance of things or alchemy. You wouldn't want to put to much salt in a dish just because salt is supposedly broadly good, just in the same way you may not want to relax/surrender as much as possible just because surrender is broadly a good thing. See how that works for you over time.....

No you missed a big part of the realization. there are no humans period. This means there are no evil humans or things. careful with such beliefs you could easily start to demonize others/yourself.

I’m not sure this a great goal since I’d wager maybe a handful of people ever have ever been able to master such levels. Or if you do try to go for this goal, get use to failing for a long time and don’t make it a big deal if you do. also I imagine a lot of people who try for such goals, hope if they complete it they will be immune to discomfort, being bothered, all pain, and will feel great as a result. I’m not sure this will be the result and wouldn’t be surprised if other emotions or problems are still bothersome. I know I’ve found this in my own journies so far.

@Muhammad Jawad answering your two questions. the how, why and when something changes is always a mystery. Look at your own life. For example when someone explains something to you and you don’t get what they are saying, why is that? Sure you come up with many reasons that feel so, perhaps it was the words or the analogy’s or metaphors, but if you look really deeply you may come to at least a “not 100% sure”. Or when you finally learned math or a language or solved a problem, you can generally feel like it was done because of something in particular, or an idea at the last second that completed the solving or understanding, but again if you look deeply, you will find no 100% certainty. Often that last thought or understanding that solved confusion just arose when it did at that moment for reasons unseen. This is the mystery I’m alluding to when I said as you practice good intentions and effort one day things may just click, but again we are never sure when and why it happens, perhaps it appeared due to be practice perhaps not. So I say it’s best to put good intentions forward and let what will be, be. other teachers may say there’s no one to do such so such efforts, they are an illusion and pointless, so drop all doing or trying. And then there is the last camp that says everything’s in our ultimate control. In the end it’s a mystery really.

@Muhammad Jawad I can totally relate to what you've describe, however my answer is not one that is easy to accept for some. You don't. Sometimes you will just yell. And thats life. By all means, try and do your best to remain more impartial and broad and not escalate past the point you catch yourself, but, these things just happen sometimes. Maybe apologize, maybe explain your feelings and why you felt like you did what you did, but it will probably still happen no matter how pure your heart and intent, until maybe one day it doesn't....... Its interesting to take a step back and realize that different cultures, families and circles of human and animal relationships are more or less inclusive and accepting of degree's of anger, sadness, fear and all sorts of emotions/beliefs and due to such, one will see their own reactions to such matters as okay or not okay in relation in relation to such beliefs and standards. One interesting thing I've noted in my own journey is how much a little anger or fear or laziness was demonized inside myself after I started pursuing enlightenment and self improvement. Its almost as if in pursuing/believing in such, I elevated my expectations of myself and what is okay and not okay within relationship. This new standard created its own pressure and success failure scheme in my own mind/self. Hopefully thats helpful.

@Leo Gura welcome to the world of spirituality outside of the human sphere. the few experiences I’ve had with specific aliens/angels/conscious energy bodies have all been intoxicating, life affirming and wonderful. I use to commune with a galactic purple octopus and it showed me many things about experience and perception. Was really sweet. the squirrel sounds cute, but probably to overwhelmingly shifting for my tastes.