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Human love is like a very dulled version of the real thing. When you experience it you just can't think of a better word. That's right. But you can point in its direction.

I could ask you the same I and everyone else exists, but there are not 2 consciousness (there isn't even a plural). What happens to me happens to you and vice versa. We are not different from each other in regards to consciousness. We share the same source and all experiences that are made are made by that source. You know what I mean?

Words are pointers to different aspects of reality. I love to use my mind, it's one of the greatest pleasures. That doesn't mean that I'm not familiar with states of no-mind and practice letting go of everything regularly.

I don't want to go to war and I probably and hopefully never will. I also don't suggest that anyone should do that. My point is: war is a creation of LOVE. Understanding that is where it gets really challenging. I don't want to minimize your pain. War is excrutiating for those involved and brings a lot of suffering to innocent people (innocent meaning: they didn't consciously choose the war). Your pain is important to end the war! Pain is what will end the war. Tears and despair is what will end the war. It needs to be expressed as consciously as possible - if one is ready - and worked through instead of suppressing it.

Massively raising consciousness.

We need better sprituality AND better science. Both have their place and both are beautiful in their own right. As is the case for meditation vs. using the mind. Contrary to what some spiritual people seem to suggest using the mind is a GOOD thing and nothing to be avoided. Meditation (but also other things like contemplation) should lead to mastery of the mind, not stopping to use it.

I don't say you should go to war, but that war is a fundamental part of our process of evolution. It's nothing wrong, but it's also nothing wrong with doing everything in your power to end it once and for all. War is nothing to pursuit, but also nothing to condemn.

You can see it as a pointer or hint. It's like a litmus test for awakening. If you don't see that everything is LOVE you're not conscious enough to see it right now. Not only is everything completely intended, it's also absolutely perfect and it's impossible to do anything wrong (but please don't misuse that statement for egoic purposes..) If you're suffering you're not aligned with Truth. Because Truth=Love. A common error is confusing that with the pursuit to remove suffering from your experience or see it as anything wrong, but that's only the ego, because that, too, is perfect and part of LOVE. Wait a minute? Isn't that a contradiction!? There are two levels of suffering: Metaphysical and relative suffering. Or call it major and minor suffering. The trick is to not suffer from suffering anymore and seeing through it, because it's a fundamental part of relativity and nothing to remove. But it's not even about the pursuit to stop the pursuit to not suffer anymore... It's an infinite regress, until you realize: THIS is already it. There's nothing to do – but also nothing to stop doing. At the end you're just where you started. The journey brings you only to the point where you already are. But this "where you are" is in eternal motion and moving towards LOVE. Because LOVE is alive and evolving. It's the ultimate dichotomy: You are always the same, but constantly changing. Both sides are equally true.

LOVE is not a concept, it is the only thing that exists. It's just another name for God. It hints at a deeply fundamental truth about reality. It's actually incredibly ingenious design to construct our experience in a way that makes it seem as if Love being the fundamental reality must be impossible.

Certainly.

@Harsh Bagdia You're imagining Leo.

Human logic and reasoning are very limited. But there's a sort of higher logic that transcends human logic.

LOVE is everything. Including war, torture, rape, etc. There's nothing but LOVE. The Wrath Of God is Love, too. A rage cutting through all falsehood, delusion and sanctimoniousness. LOVE is something completely different from the human emotion of love. LOVE is beyond good and evil. LOVE equals GOODNESS. But it's a greater form of Goodness that has nothing to do with your human fantasies about what's good and what's bad. To realize Absolute Goodness you have to be able to leave the perspective of your ego and consider everything from a holistic standpoint. It's not necessarily good for you as a finite form – which most of the time means good in regards to your survival. But it's Good for the whole in the sense that it maximizes Love. You want an example? Let's take war. War leads to a lot of suffering, so you wouldn't call it good, except if you were the initiator of the war – that already shows how relative your notions of good and bad are. But for the greater Goodness war and all the suffering that comes with it leads to the establishment of True Peace. True Peace is not the absence of the possibility of war. It is us understanding the suffering and consequences of war very deeply, which requires to fully live through it – and then coming together and consciously deciding that we don't want to continue that anymore. The resulting experience of True Peace wouldn't be possible if the opposite - war - would just not exist. It can only be created by deeply and experientally understanding what it means to be fully at war – and then recognizing that it was false and it is not what we fundamentally are. But first you have to go to war. You can't skip that step if you want to really know what you truly are. That's what LOVE is about. It loves itself so deeply that it creates its exact opposite to be able to find out and understand what it is – even fully knowing what that entails.

I use psychedelics and you can too, but it’s your completely free choice.

It’s an event you attend personally once a month (if you’d like) I will conduct the first events but the idea is that more people get acquainted with the material so they can do their own events completely decentralized. I’m also thinking about developing a way to connect different of those events together via some way of live stream. So it can theoretically happen all over the world together at the same time. The name I invented for it is VIBEVENT.

No. It has aspects of that but the core event is completely different. Its a psychedelic musical with a story based on a hero’s journey that spans over 5 hours. But the attendants are not merely there as an audience but actively participating in the creation of something truly special. You will - if you do it how it’s intended - live through the story as if it happened to you. Or at least you will activate emotions so strong as if it would be the case. we go to a complete ground zero energy wise, when the great disaster of the story strikes for our main character. And then.. when you think it is over, the actual amazing part begins where everything turns around and something completely different takes the stage. And at the end we will meet the ON in person - a network of pure consciousness energy that creates and destroys a huge amount of worlds all the time and at the same time incarnates in them to create the experience of true beauty. After alls said and done and we experienced the absolute climax: Seeing the universe out of the eyes of the ON — we come back down to earth and celebrate life and every single being in it. At the very end, if all goes well, we tune in, just for one night, into the eternal dance of the universe and celebrate one last time.. We will know if it worked at that point, because all I said becomes literally real when done right.

But not what and how I will do it I don’t know of another spiritual musical combined with a psychedelic dance ceremony. Also the story of the musical will certainly be different.. @Princess Arabia Yeah that’s certainly nice, too. But mine will be completely different.

There won't be a religious leader. There will only be a lead singer and performer that leads through the story and night. But anyone can do that later when they're familiar with the material.

The way I described it it's not about building a community in that sense beyond a night or weekend. Except of course casual exchanges outside that or maybe a forum, but all very loose. Maybe think of it more like a verb – (to) religion. We don't create a Religion, we 'religion'.

That's not doing nothing. Doing nothing would be to just sit there, stare at your wall or close your eyes and just breathe. You'd not even think about stuff.

Thank you, appreciated. What about a "religion" that doesn't have a leader? And no scriptures that tell you the truth or any truth? But instead you have a story that you just live through – that's all. Only a story, that's also called a story and not facts. Think of a spiritual musical of some kind. With a story that touches on deeper subjects like life & death, addiction & depression, stagnation & transformation, hope & despair, time & impermanence, dying & resurrection, healing & forgiveness, love, emotions, humanity, the cosmos, the journey, the dance of the universe, and so much more... But you know at all times that it is only a story. A story that provokes you to contemplate more deeply, love more radical, live more passionately, give yourself more completely and so much more... And you can have the most amazing experience of contact with Life, Love and the Divine, but you can also just chill and hang out, exchange your ideas and feelings with others, you can just dance and enjoy yourself. Or you can go on a cosmic adventure that will transform you if you let it. You will express emotions in an intensity you've never known before, experience true catharsis, and at the end you look at the night sky and feel the connection to the cosmos and everything in it... You wink at the stars because you finally know that there's something you didn't know before. And they wink back at you because they know now you're finally in on their little secret... You don't have ANY responsibility beyond that night. Whatever happens is from now on your personal treasure and you can do with it and integrate it as you please.. And then you do that every month together with the most amazing, open and beautiful people you can think of... Wouldn't that be great?

Well. That's the thing. I'm aware of the possibility that I'm completely deluded. But I know what I saw and I know what I experience again and again when I take psychedelics. I saw that it is not only possible but it will be the most amazing celebration that ever happened on this planet by orders of magnitude.

We don't have to call it religion then. What I mean is developing a ceremony to attend with the intention of experiencing the Divine together in a repeatable fashion. Beyond that you can connect with other people, exchange viewpoints and whatnot. But there is no scripture that tells you what you have to believe and do.

A good religion doesn't provide you any answers. It just gives you a ceremony, a ritual, you can either attend and do with others or do it by yourself. And what you make of it is completely up to you. Taking 5-MeO in a certain setting and with a certain mindset already has characteristics of a ceremony. The only thing that's missing is doing it with others. You could argue that it's impossible to do it with others and reach nearly the same states. I'd argue that it's certainly harder, but impossible is a big word. The real question that you have to ask is: Would it be worth it?