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Nobody has an idea what this Moment is capable of. But the exciting thing about that is that you will find out. The mindfuck results from the fact that you think you know, but you don't (probably). It's possible to connect with that but it's very hard. I achieved it several times but only for a short period. I don't know if it's possible to sustain it indefinitely or if this dream would collapse. What are signs that you're really connected to not-knowing - or as I rather call it: infinite creativity / room of possibilities / pure potential - and not only pretending to? Everything is very clear and there's absolutely no doubt You're completely conscious of the fact that this is a dream, it feels like lucid dreaming but on a way higher level Your heart overflows with amazement and ecstasy It feels as if you woke up and a murky veil had been lifted You realize that we have no fucking idea, and it's the best thing ever. You could shout "OF COURSE! How could I believe such nonsense!? We have NO fucking CLUE!!" (that's the best one ) There's more, but it's absolutely clear when it's the case. Absolutely no doubt is one of the main signs.

Trust me, you have no idea You know it conceptually, but do you know it experientally?

And you have no idea yet what this Moment is capable of.

I really like that one. “The Truth is that which you can‘t be not.“

They did extremely important groundwork for the spiritual evolution of humankind.

"What dies is not true. What's true can never die. Such is the Peace of God." - Unknown

This is what I noted on that day (in January 2015; translated from German): Suffering is the illusion of the possibility to do anything wrong and therefore be separated from Unity. This illusion is flawless, because it allows God to discover its own beauty again and again. You become aware of this knowledge by completely trusting and unconditionally embracing what appears. You can NEVER arrive at that knowledge through logic or by deriving it somehow. It is always there, you become aware of it by trusting in it. Then there's no sliver of doubt anymore. You just have to do it. All fear and all doubts disappear and reveal their true nature - a perfectly designed illusion - when you begin to trust.

That's based on reciprocity. Okay. We will see. I'm not attacking you, but apparently you perceive it differently. I'm completely open to things I don't know, but I will also passionately vocalize my truth. I don't call myself enlightened and I don't claim to be in possession of the truth. That can't exactly be said about your standpoint. Though I will fiercely oppose stagnation, self-righteousness and sanctimoniousness when I see it. Those are the true enemies of humankind.

@Harsh Bagdia Don't forget to transcend Leo - or any teacher - at some point

You've got a lot of things right. But there's one huge misconception/misunderstanding: You don't understand the elephant by "becoming" it (or let's say realizing that you already are it). You are your body right now. but you don't understand it. Hence there's science and research about understanding the body. It's exciting, fascinating, advances us as a species and so on and so forth. It's the same thing with IT/WE. As soon as you realize you are it, exploring it doesn't stop but in fact becomes a lot deeper! Reality is completely impersonal but at the same deeply personal. Both facets are equally true and you can't discard one for the other. It's like a tree that has to grow deep roots into the soil, but only to be able to expand high into the sky. The roots respresent the impersonal, the connection to the Unchanging. It's really important to establish that because it enables you to go into much deeper experiences/insights/awakenings without losing yourself in them so to speak. But don't forget that your nature is bilateral. Edit: You could also say it is triune: Impersonal Reality - God - Creation

This is not even my final form yet.

Either they meet each other sometime, then it is still ONE. Or they don't and it makes absolutely no difference.

I perceive this moment to be the only thing that exists, has ever existed and will ever exist. Everything appears here/now. It can't be otherwise. Also I, my personality and ego, appear in the infinite, eternal moment that is NOW. Do you mean that or something different? Words are so coarse to talk about this stuff. Right. But at the same time something is happening – or at least seems to happen – isn't it? There's clearly a direction of this, hinted at by the term "Evolution". Don't you see it that way? Sure, you could say "it's all relative", but that aside, something is clearly happening and it's not random.

I think we're both right. If it feels right it is right. Reality seems again and again like infinite contradictions and paradoxes that turn out to always be true at the same time. The way I see it reality is completely impersonal but at the same time very personal. I mean, you're still there aren't you? You have a very specific personal structure, your own sense of humour, your unique struggles and insights. All that constitutes the Beauty that is It/We.

You sure there's a difference?

What about this possibility: Everybody is you and you are something much greater than you thought.

It's what I became conscious of again and again. I myself didn't believe it at first, but my experiences are unmistakable. Every time I convinced myself that it isn't true I had an experience that made it even more clear. And it continues to be that way. I doubt everything all the time. But in those moments I know.

I don't want to be seen as a teacher. I'm an artist. I also like to play out the archetype of the fool or jester. On the other hand I wasn't really frustrated. I actually enjoy discussing with @Breakingthewall and I don't bank on changing his or someone else's mind, that's not my job. My job is deconstructing worldviews and showing others incosistencies in their philosophy how I perceive them. Sometimes I just channel something that's given to me in the moment. I try to formulate that as precise and concise as possible. But after that what everybody does with it is not my worry anymore.

Coincidentally, my sister named her son Leo. I never told her that name or anything related to this platform here. Just reminded me of that.

It’s a metaphor. But you could argue that in reality the guy on the computer is also a creation of the impersonal room and that’s in reality all that exists. But that doesn’t change the outcome. Reality is deeply personal and completely impersonal at the same time.

@Breakingthewall Imagine you sitting in an empty room with white walls that are so white you can't even see them. Nothing exists outside of that room and you're also immortal. In front of you is a computer with WoW installed, the hardcore version – when you die your character's dead. You don't have to play. But you will do it anyway, fully knowing that it's just a game. And when you die you just instantly start a new character. That's all there's to do anyway. You're so immersed in the game that you literally become your character, but sometimes in between you remember that you're just this immortal being playing a game. But that doesn't stop you from continuing to play. To play is all there is to do for all of eternity, fully knowing that it's not real. But who cares anyway? Of course this is just a metaphor and in reality it's all much much more complex and intertwined, but you get the idea.

Well, I'll continue playing then and evolving to higher states of consciousness. Because there's nothing else to do anyway. Luckily it is also the greatest, most beautiful and most fulfilling activity that could ever exist.

The Absolute has a DESIRE to experientally know and understand itself. It's the Divine Desire. It's also a Divine Tragedy because it can never be fulfilled. But it's also unfathomably beautiful because it pursuits it anway for all eternity.

Both exist at the same time. The Absolute never moves anyway because there's nowhere to go. But in the relative everything moves all the time. Not only that but it evolves, too, into the direction of Love, Beauty and Consciousness. You can't achieve the Absolute because you already are it. Everything else is relative. We are in the relative. You are in the relative. All self-appointed enlightened people are in the relative. It's not a bug, it's a feature. Because the relative is not different from the Absolute. Riddle me that...

Just imagine that it is yourself with whom you're speaking and interacting. Everything you do, all joy you bring into the world and all pain you inflict always only affects yourself. That doesn't mean you have to be always nice. Some tough love is needed sometimes, but not out of personal enjoyment but out of the sincere desire to help others grow. If that's your goal you always have to ask yourself if what you do is achieving that or if it's only your ego playing games. It will never be easy. If it's easy you should question your approach.