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Why Do Some Get It? But Others Dont?
Why Do Some Get It? But Others Dont?It's a function of one's state of consciousness.
You are in the wrong state.
All states happen NOW, but you need the right state. So if you're in the wrong state, NOW won't feel like anything special.
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Pick Up Material Mega-Thread
Pick Up Material Mega-ThreadA very good example of how an interested woman will play aloof by not being approached well.
In films and writings these scenes are called as Meet Cute.
And this type specifically is Pull/Push style of Meet Cute.
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Pick Up Material Mega-Thread
Pick Up Material Mega-ThreadDamn...... I should move to Asia.
Asian girls are hot too.
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Pick Up Material Mega-Thread
Pick Up Material Mega-ThreadYou don't have to be all that stuff. That stuff is for guys who want HOT girls.
If you want an ordinary, below-average girl, you can get away with not working on yourself.
But this forum is fundamentally about becoming the best that you can be. So we are biased in that way. We want more than the average guy here.
But also, becoming good with women and becoming a high-value guy IS just you being you. Assuming you want to be a high-value guy. If you want to be a lazy guy, then do that. In which case why are you reading about dating advice? Dating advice already assumes you want to improve yourself somehow to get a better result.
If you care about attracting high quality women, you must offer her something in return. Otherwise you're basically trying to cheat her.
You see, the real key to pickup is that it's not about tricking a hot girl to sleep with a lame guy. It's about turning a lame guy into a powerful man, and then girls crave that new guy you have become. In this way you aren't cheating the girl, you are actually transforming yourself for her. You are giving her the gift of the best possible you!
All the fucking work I did on myself, I can now happily gift to a woman for her enjoyment. And that is ultimately the greatest joy of the pickup journey: the joy that women get from who you have become. It's like giving a homeless person a million dollars and seeing the smile on his face.
The average guy gifts his girlfriend a turd.
A guy who works on himself gifts his girlfriend the sparkling diamond which he has become.
Your girlfriend doesn't want a diamond around her finger, she wants a diamond between her legs. She wants you to be her diamond.
And how are diamonds made? Under great pressure. The pressure of life experience forges a weak boy into a powerful man. And it is this purification process which you hate when you say, "I hate this".
Of course it will massively grow your self-esteem and confidence. Especially in the context of women.
But of course it will not fix all your self-esteem issues automatically. There are many dimensions to self-esteem and confidence which pickup will not touch.
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Extremely frustrated about being a virgin
Extremely frustrated about being a virginThat feeling....
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Is Leo's view of time correct?
Is Leo's view of time correct?Time is purely a function of your current state of consciousness. If your state changes enough, time will cease to exist.
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Pick Up Material Mega-Thread
Pick Up Material Mega-ThreadSure. Most people are just normies.
I'm talking here within the context of transforming yourself with regards to dating and as a man. This is not for everyone.
Pickup is right for you only if you want to seriously transform yourself as a man and you want much higher quality girls than you would normally be able to get. If you're just happy with an average girl, then pickup is probably overkill.
You have to be interested in the actual process of it, not just the end result. The learning journey is the best part.
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Pick Up Material Mega-Thread
Pick Up Material Mega-ThreadBlueprint is very old.
Tyler's free YT videos circa 2010-2014 were the shit. Total game-changer.
Some other coaches I liked:
David Wygant (daygame) Mehow (he had some of the earliest in-field vids in the industry) David DeAngelo (solid dating theory that's less hardcore than pickup) They are rather old now, but their material was very helpful for me when I started out.
Also research Mystery's original Kino Escalation ladder. That's gold.
You can basically piece together a master map of pickup by studying every coach under the sun. Watch a couple hundred hours of material, take notes, and piece together your own personal map of female attraction.
But be careful. Pickup theory is addictive. You need to go out on the streets to really learn how the theory applies.
Each hour of theory requires like 10 to 100 hours in-field ACTION to learn.
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Pick Up Material Mega-Thread
Pick Up Material Mega-ThreadNo, he just has game and you don't. That's the key difference.
The deceptive part is that when you see really good pickup in action, it doesn't look like pickup. It looks totally natural, such that an on-looker would say, "But that's not pickup, that's just a cool guy being friendly." Exactly! But you have no idea what work is involved in becoming that good. On-lookers will only judge you by the end result. They don't know how many hundreds of sets you bombed with cringe to get to this set.
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Pick Up Material Mega-Thread
Pick Up Material Mega-ThreadHaha!
What every woman in the world wants is a cool, strong, confident, charming, funny, detached guy who can sleep with any girl he wants, but she captures him and makes him fall in love with only her.
This is every girl's wet dream.
She wants to tame a player.
Basically yes. The hotter the woman, the more true it will be.
The less hot the woman the less value you need to offer as a man to get her.
It's an implicit value trade. A sexual auctionhouse.
Don't expect women to be able to honestly articulate what she wants in a man. It's all deeply subconscious. She will tell you all sorts of nonsense like, "I want a nice guy." This cannot be trusted. What she logically wants is irrelevant. What matters is what will make her sleep with you.
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Pick Up Material Mega-Thread
Pick Up Material Mega-ThreadEasy. That's avoided with strong sexual intent and man-woman interaction. You need to be staring her down like a juicy piece of meat. She will feel that off you. This is not a friendly social conversation. She must feel within the first 2 minutes that if you get her alone in a room, you're going to fuck her. You need to broadcast sexual intent without ever saying anything sexual.
For example, you could say within the first 2 minutes: "OMG, you are so yummy. I could bite into you like a juicy piece of watermelon." Then immediately switch to another topic without waiting for her response. After you say that, she will clearly know you aren't playing patty-cakes.
But the best thing is just look her in the eyes like you want to fuck her. She will know. Nothing needs to be said.
There are so many subtle ways to broadcast sexual intent.
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Pick Up Material Mega-Thread
Pick Up Material Mega-ThreadI don't know any. Books is not the right way to learn pickup.
Yes, but will you pursue spirituality until your sexual cravings are at least somewhat quelled? Probably not.
The point is to handle your sex life so that you are free to pursue greater things.
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Pick Up Material Mega-Thread
Pick Up Material Mega-ThreadBe careful with that one. It's a bit too edgy.
Dial the edge down to a manageable point. You can say something like, "You are adorable like a little pig." It's a nice backhanded compliment because no girl wants to be called a pig. But if she gets offended you can always insist, "But baby pigs are so cute! Why do you hate piglets? Are you racist?"
By that point you will have totally scrambled her mind. You can then switch to a serious topic.
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Pick Up Material Mega-Thread
Pick Up Material Mega-ThreadA great way to go about this is to flip your love inside out.
So, instead of saying "I love you", say "I hate you :)"
"I hate you" is a great opener.
Rather than saying, "will you marry me today?" it's much better to say, "I will never marry you. I will just use you and throw you away."
Reserve psychology is amazing
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Pick Up Material Mega-Thread
Pick Up Material Mega-ThreadI mean... you can make any line work in theory. But generally you don't want to come off as needy or desperate for love or sex.
One time I slept with a girl after grabbing her while she was walking by and telling her, "I'm looking for a wife." She looked at me and said, "I'm looking for a husband." Bam! Instant green-light! 5 minutes later we were making out. 15 minutes later I pulled her to the hotel bathroom for sex but security kicked us out. 30 minutes later we were driving to her hotel room for sex.
Again, what matters is not the words in your line, it's how your delivering it and how you follow up.
You can open with almost any dumb line as long as it isn't instantly creepy or sexual.
The dumbest openers work, like, "You will be my Pokemon." Usually the dumber you are, the more girls love it. Be dumb, but not creepy or sexual.
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Pick Up Material Mega-Thread
Pick Up Material Mega-Thread@Zak Never open with sexual humor. It's an instant turn off for girls. It makes you look far too desperate and creepy.
The thing is, it's easy to record flashy and edgy pickup videos. But that does not equate to good game because in real life it's far too strong and scares the girls away. You want to be more chill and normal.
Do not talk about sex with her unless she's already attracted to you and you're close to having sex with her. And even then you should avoid it since it's too explicit and will make her feel like a cheap slut. Guys love sexual humor, women usually don't.
Licking ice cream off her ass? LOL
Free head?? LOL
You will after I cum on it? LOL. Cringe!
You wanna see a freak show, my devil-head penis. LOL. OMG this fucking guy.
That's shit game. This is scaring off all the girls.
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Addicted to dating and I want freedom
Addicted to dating and I want freedomYou are so young, you got TONS of dating time left. You can date for decades into the future, so chill the fuck out. You don't need to be actively searching for a girlfriend every week like the world is coming to an end.
LOL, yeah, OF COURSE! Getting rejected after a first date hurts like hell. There's no magic pill to avoid getting your hopes dashed and your heart broken. You suffer it and move on. This hurt feeling usually lasts for a week and then you get over it.
Nothing is wrong with you at all. This is exactly how it works.
If you want to be free of the cycle, then stop dating. Dating and relationships are fundamentally a cycle of highs and lows. You're NEVER going to find freedom or peace through them.
Or, decide to ride the cycles and stomach the highs and lows. In dating and relationships, every joy will basically end up compensated by some heartbreak or hurt. There is no free lunch in dating/relationships.
If you want stable joy, that can only be found within yourself. It cannot be gotten via others, since others are never stable.
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Not Sexually Attracted.
Not Sexually Attracted.Of course for a guy this is more prominent, but even for women, attraction usually happens within 10 to 15 minutes. By the end of the first date the attraction should be very solid. If it isn't, something's probably wrong.
Women can read non-visual and non-verbal cues quickly. I'm not just talking purely about physical appearance. They needs to be "chemistry". You can feel for it.
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Question about Tripp from Leo's Interview
Question about Tripp from Leo's InterviewYou can get very technical about game.
But that's not good for newbies. When you're just starting out you want to focus on the bare basics like your dress, grooming, approaching consistently, building decent state, eye contact, smiling, body posture, physical escalation, never running out of things to say, and leading.
The most important things are:
Going out at least 2x-3x nights a week, consistently Approaching consistently Putting yourself into a good mood while you do so Smiling and laser eye contact Getting good at never running out of things to say. Becoming good at holding conversation Communicating with her man-to-woman, with clear sexual intent Immediate physical escalation Leading her That will get you 90% of your results. Getting decent at all the above will take you several years of full time work.
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Question about Tripp from Leo's Interview
Question about Tripp from Leo's InterviewYou would not believe the kinds of girls I attracted: worldclass tennis stars, actresses, models, etc.
I went on a date with a girl who did all of Tony Robbins' marketing material.
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Question about Tripp from Leo's Interview
Question about Tripp from Leo's InterviewAll of them are valuable. Tyler's are great of course. You gotta sort through it all and see which ones resonate with you.
When I started pickup I had a giant torrent of like every possible pickup teaching in the last 20 years. I studied the shit out of it for 100s of hours. I studied it harder than I studied calculus in college, LOL. And that was before RSD's best free YT material was fully released. That was like 8 years ago now.
God, I'm getting old.
A lot of great new pickup material has been released since then. I started out studying Mystery Method, LOL. I studied like 20 different teachers and coaches. All of it was useful, but RSD I liked the most because it was so brutally realistic and down-to-earth. I don't like fluff in my dating teachings.
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Question about Tripp from Leo's Interview
Question about Tripp from Leo's InterviewStreet and day game is my fave. It works even better since there's almost zero competition.
One of the best things I got from my 2000 approaches is that these days if I see a cute girl at Wholefoods, I can fairly effortlessly just walk up to her and walk away with her number.
Once you get good enough, building state will not be so important. Especially during the day where you should be more low-key and normal.
Once you get good at pickup, social circle will be like shooting fish in a barrel. It's so easy. Normal dating becomes so easy.
Pickup in loud clubs is like Navy Seals training. If you can handle that you can handle anything.
Of course there's a lot more to it than one law. And state transference is not about clowning around, it's about being grounded, chill, confident, happy, etc. rather than terrified or anxious to be near a girl. Your fear will transfer to her so fast.
State transference is such a powerful principle. It even applies when you're talking to your girlfriend over the phone. Whatever mood you're in will quickly rub off onto her. It's important to understand this principle and use it to lead girls into positive states.
Pickup gets very advanced and nuanced as you get a few years into it. There are hundreds of nuances to learn, but you cannot learn them unless you do 1000s of approaches. I could talk about the nuances of pickup for 20 hours straight to a newbie.
I could talk for several hours just about the nuances of setting up the first date to make sure it's most successful. I spent dozens of hours just honing my first date process.
Every part of your game needs to be finely-honed like knife: your dress, your grooming, the approach, the opener, body language, sub-communication, state, small talk, kino escalation, flirting, leading, asking screening questions, logistics, bouncing, managing her friends, managing her excuses, getting phone numbers, texting, setting up dates, isolation, closing, dealing with last minute resistance, foreplay, sex, etc.
You do need a solid city for pickup. I highly recommend moving to big city. It's worth it.
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Question about Tripp from Leo's Interview
Question about Tripp from Leo's InterviewI would look for a torrent of their entire old-school video catalogue. Not their paid material but their free YT videos. That stuff is GOLD. I'm sure it exists online somewhere.
Well, that hardcore approach machine mentality is basically what you need to gain massive skills and results. It works in Europe and elsewhere of course. It works anywhere there are lots of women.
But they also taught many fundamental inner game principles such as law of state transference, building up state, and much more. Those principles are crucial.
You are not going to get good with attracting women without MASSIVE approach experience. You need to be approaching 1000s of women. Everything else is secondary. You will learn the details as you force yourself to approach.
I approached something like 2000 women within a year. And that was still just the start of the learning process. I never got super good at it. But I got A LOT better than when I started.
It's not about sleeping with 100s of women. You'll be lucky to get a small handful from those 2000 approaches. It's about honing your skills and inner game through massive exposure and experience. It's about building yourself up as a man. Any future girlfriend you have will appreciate the strength pickup has built in you for her.
Pickup is like meditation. You must do it seriously to get results. It's one of the most challenging things you'll do in your life. But also one of the most rewarding.
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Question about Tripp from Leo's Interview
Question about Tripp from Leo's InterviewDon't. Just do pickup when you're doing pickup, and do meditation when you sit to meditate.
If you can get numbers and dates, clearly you're getting attraction, so what are you insecure about? As far as your insecurity goes, what you need to get through your thick skull is this: within about 15 minutes you will either reach hook-point with a girl or not. If you reach hook-point, you will clearly see that she's attracted. Once you see that, you know she is willing to fuck you if you just don't screw it up from here on out and handle the logistics well. So drop any insecurity from here. You KNOW she's willing to fuck you. And if a girl agrees to go on a date with you: YOU KNOW SHE'S WILLING TO FUCK YOU. A girl will never agree to go on a date with a guy she's not willing to fuck.
Your insecurity should be about those initial 15 minutes to reach hook-point. If you get there, you've won! She's willing to fuck you. Which means your looks are now irrelevant.
One of the best guys I knew in game was a short 5'2" Pakistani guy. He was amazing. He got more girls than me at 6'2".
Your PERSONALITY is what matters. Focus on improving that. Become charming and bold and you will attract many girls.