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  1. Leo's Blog Discussion Mega-Thread
    Leo's Blog Discussion Mega-Thread
    People get into this work, do it for a while, it becomes a kind of echochamber, and they forget that the rest of mankind is a century out from doing this kind of work.
    Never forget how rare what we're doing here is.
    It only seems obvious once you're neck deep in it. But most people will never even know this work exists.

  2. Spiral Dynamics - Stage Orange Notes
    Spiral Dynamics - Stage Orange Notes
    Re-watching @Leo Gura's spiral Dynamics stage Orange video, I've manually taken notes on my OneNote Commonplace book about everything Leo explained about stage Orange in his video. Thus making a thorough and compressive summary for everyone interested in spiral dynamics stage orange. No AI was used whatsoever. Hope it helps! Enjoy!
     
    What is the essence of Orange?
     
    It's individual achievement. Improving the self. All the actions you undertake are only for your own personal gain.
    This is a shift from the blue worldview which was about sacrificing yourself for the good of civilization. Orange is not concerned with the afterlife. All it matters is that it lives the good life here on earth.
     
    With Orange comes the rise of:
    Business Consumerism Secularism The separation of church and state. Popular culture Scientism (Like science turned into the new religion) Success oriented self-help. The rise of secular democracies. As opposed to blue which had a more theocratic form of government. Stage Orange values
    Achievement, Success and excellence Climbing to the top of the hierarchy Obsessed at being number one. Striving to be the best, a winner. Improving one's position in life Efficiency, progress, productivity and optimization Manipulating the system and win maxing. Orange can be extremely manipulative. Orange has no problem exploiting a person or a situation Orange values action, results and pragmatism (Orange doesn't care about the afterlife, about spirituality, about metaphysics! Orange cares about tangible goods and material profit). Orange values never ending growth. Orange values capitalism and libertarianism Competitive marketplaces, deregulation, denationalization Orange values hard work, business and entrepreneurship Orange values competition and winner takes all situations Orange prides himself as being a strong competitor Orange values self-improvement The rise of the self-help industry which before was substituted with religion at the stage Blue level of development There is also green and even yellow self-help but the orange way of doing self-help is along the lines of how to manipulate the marketplace better so you get the best position in life. Orange values skills, knowledge and education Orange values confidence, optimism and charisma Entertainment and showmanship Personal freedom, self-reliance and independence (To orange being dependent for income from the welfare state is just a crutch) Free speech Money, sex and luxury Net worth (To Orange the more net worth it accumulates the more successful it is) Orange values looks, beauty, sexiness and coolness Consumerism (buying the newest Iphone, the newest Gucci bag, the newest shoes) Orange loves brands (BMW, Gucci, Iphone) Loves pop culture, celebrities and social media All the orange culture basically represents the worshipping of celebrities because to orange celebrities symbolize the pinnacle of success. Orange values quarterly profits, mass markets and sales. It is all about how to market a product to as large as a marketplace, to as many people, to make as much profit as possible. Orange is all about mass production and industry Orange values rationality, logic, secularism, science and humanism  (This is huge for Orange because it takes it away from the Blue worldview which encompassed religion, traditions and authority. Thus Orange becoming rebellious and swinging the pendulum in the completely opposite direction) Orange is a full on skeptic. Values skepticism but fails to be skeptical of it's own skepticism and of course orange is not skeptical of orange itself or to science. Orange hates metaphysics and thinks that it doesn't need them. When in fact Orange's metaphysics represent atheism, reductionism and utilitarianism. Orange doesn't recognize the limits of rationality or science. Orange values technology, analysis and facts Orange values data, analytics, charts and it wants to measure and quantify everything. Orange values fact based education as opposed to blue who valued religious indoctrination. Orange values scientific methods and IQ. Orange values strategic thinking and risk analysis, innovation and creative thinking and results. Maintaining a competitive edge Competence over rank or bloodlines Orange will stab you in the back with no remorse if it can sense that it can get a favourable outcome which would be a win for himself. When does orange emerge?
     
    Orange emerges when Blue starts to recognize the limitations of itself. It is when blue realizes that this absolute truth that he was holding on to, maybe it is not as certain as it initially believed and maybe the world isn't as black and white as it initially thought it was.  
    Maybe the divisions between good and evil are not so clear. Maybe it's religion isn't as intelligent and good as it initially thought. Maybe the bible didn't contain only good information. Maybe the people that wrote the bible didn't understand some aspects about reality.  
    There happens a shift in blue's mind to where it starts to think more independently and starts to do away with the old conformist and authority driven way of thinking.  
    Characteristics of Orange
     
    A drive for personal results and success and status. Autonomy and independence Tries to do away with blue's bureaucratic system Seeks the good life and material pleasures Orange is characterized by manipulating the earth's resources mercilessly. For Orange society evolves from strategy, technology and competition. Orange thrives on outdoing other orange individuals There is an aversion within orange against religion, spirituality and mysticism. To orange religion is just silly superstition To Orange there is nothing we cannot demystify about reality as long as we do more and more science. To orange reality is impersonal and it doesn't care about you, and the only reason a rock from space hasn't hit your head is just by pure luck. Orange believes that if you cannot quantify a thing therefore it doesn't exist Orange likes to point out the hypocrisy of religious blue people Orange is characterized by strong logical thinking and critical observation( Orange is quick to poke holes within religious theories or books) Orange values certificates and diplomas like PhD's and experts. Orange is focused on direct experience rather than dogma or speculation Orange believes that the world is his playground and he is very optimistic and eager to go out and make something out of himself. Orange believes that the losers in life totally deserve what they got. Because those losers were lazy. Orange has an aversion to fuzzy thinking, emotions and to love. Orange is highly logical and rational. Left Brained. All head over heart. Orange hates femininity and is all macho and tough alpha male like. To orange success is mechanical like factories, assembly lines etc. Orange is obsessed with making profits. Regardless of the means. Orange is extremely self-centred. He doesn't care about his employees or his community or the environment. All it cares is himself and his wife and children. Orange is characterized by the mantra Image over substance. If we can fake being rich then we are rich!! Orange is obsessed by physical appearance. Women are viewed as sex objects, are objectified. Orange doesn't have the capacity to exhibit love or compassion to a woman. Orange doesn't like looking weak or exposing his emotions. Orange can be blind to the suffering of other people. Can be blind by the suffering it causes to other people. Orange likes partying and living life to the full extent. Orange tries to monetize everything Orange has a more vulgar vocabulary and often speaks unfiltered and loosely. With orange comes comedy, poking fun at the status quo Orange uses intelligence rather than force. So instead of directly attacking you he will try to buy you to do whatever he wants. Orange takes calculated risks. Seeks loopholes to see how he can manipulate the rules for his own good. With orange it comes the rise of the middle class which tends to not exist in blue or red A rise with knowledge workers rather than manual laborers. With orange the churches of blue get replaced with corporate boardrooms With orange the traditions and heritages of blue become irrelevant. Who cares about them when I can forge a path just for myself. Examples of Orange
    United States as a whole Capitalism Emerging China Businessmen Wallstreet Business Lawyers Business suits The move Wolf of Wallstreet Hedge fund managers Goldman Sachs Big Pharma Big Oil Big banks Tobacco companies Advertising Fortune 500 companies Entrepreneurs Libertarians Professional sports High fashion like Rolex and expensive watches or purses or jewelry Nightclubs Pickup MGTOW, the red pill, the manosphere Republicans Donald Trump Ronald Reagan Plastic surgery, Botox, breast implants Pornography Hollywood as a business Supermodels Silicon Valley Start ups Bill Gates Warren Buffet Casinos Theme Parks Walmart Amazon Coca Cola McDonald's Disney Microsoft EA Electronic Arts Facebook Instagram Twitter Steam (Gaming company) Video Games as a whole. As a culture Bodybuilding Arnold Schwartzeneger Steroids Corrupt politicians NBA UEFA Champions League Anti-Unions laws Western Medicine Oracle Steve Ballmer Outsourcing, deregulations tax cuts Used cars salesman Energy drinks Marketing Sales and PR Television as a whole News outlets like CNN and MSNBC E-commerce Software engineers Technical scientists Nuclear weapons Luxury yachts Private Jets Real estate tycoons Cocaine Alcohol Pop music Rock music Club music Rap music The trophy wife The gold digger Oil drilling in Alaska Champagne and caviar Fancy restaurants Luxury resorts Cruise ships Gated communities Mansions Success magazine Poker players The self-help industry Business books Marketing seminars Dan Kennedy Tony Robbins Tai Lopez Brian Tracy Andrew Tate Dan Lok Success coaches Millionaires Net worth Sports cars Celebrities, paparazzi's Las Vegas Palm Springs Honk Kong Dubai Atheists Skeptics Separation of church and state The founding fathers The Renaissance Henry Ford The World Trade Organization Kim Kardashian Kanye West Sex, Drugs and Rock & Roll The midlife crisis Nasa Space X Elon Musk Universities Get rich quick schemes Online Millionaires Bitcoin, forex, day trading Utilitarianism Logical positivism Behaviourism Darwinism Gun rights The whole military industrial complex Sigmund Freud Harvey Weinstein The 2008 financial collapse Billboards Birth control Condoms Viagra Stem-cell research Robotics Computers Sex education Alex Jones Howard Stern The movie House of cards The movie Avatar The movie Boiler Room Sam Harris  
    Statistics for stage Orange
     
    About 30% of all adult global population is in stage Orange. 50% of the total world influence, cultural and behavioural represents stage Orange. The government style of Orange is technocratic, capitalist, oligarchic and corporatist  
     
     
    Unhealthy manifestations of stage Orange
     
    Environmental destruction Pollution Deforestation Global Warming Overfishing Endangering various kinds of species Depletion of resources like water aquifers The indoctrination within secularism and scientism and materialism Capitalism turned into a religious ideology The misuse of evidence and scientific studies Orange is ignorant to spirituality, god, consciousness, emotions, femininity, intuition, love and magic Orange is intellectually arrogant ( Because orange looks at how primitive blue is and because Orange is championing logic and science and skepticism, it thinks that it is better than blue) Stage Orange lacks the metaphysical and epistemic ability to self-reflect in an unbiased way Orange mistakes stage blue religion with higher post rational levels of mysticism Stage Orange cannot understand the true origins of religion and why religion is so persistent. Orange can't understand that religion comes from mysticism and from non-duality Orange cannot have a deep spiritual connection to reality Stage Orange cannot crack the problem of consciousness Orange cannot overcome the duality of mind and body Orange cannot understand post rationalism Orange can become narcissistic and self-absorbed, can lack compassion for others Stage orange first world countries exploit 3rd world countries for cheap labour. Orange can be oppressive in a corporate manner. Like when a boss overworks his employees or when companies use manipulation and schemes to false advertise a product or when they companies over-inflate their prices just for profit, or when those companies don't pay fairly their employees. Gross levels of income inequality Inhumane working conditions Orange blames the people who work in slave like conditions for being lazy and for being religious and that's why they have the job that they have because they weren't smart enough to have a better job. And the job they currently have is the one that they truly deserve. Orange is very legalistic, will use lawsuits frivolously as a weapon against it's enemies. Orange engages often in disaster capitalism which entails massive deregulations and a unchecked free marked which in turn creates a huge income inequality. Orange is prone to instable economies. Example the economic collapse in 2008. Orange can lead towards war for other nation's resources. Also the military industrial complex benefits from wars because it creates huge profits for the owners of the factories that produce weapons. Orange can lead to the corruption of government and to corporate lobbying. Orange can lead to arms races and in it's most horrific form it can lead to world wide nuclear Armageddon The greatest danger to the world is stage orange itself, because only orange could trigger a nuclear holocaust, not the religious people of stage blue Orange can architect factories than abuse the hell out of animals and subduing the animals to horrific cruelty Stage orange leads to monopolies which prevent small businesses from flourishing Stage orange leads to shallow consumerist culture Orange leads to all sorts of nasty addictions like porn, sex, drug, videogames and food addictions. The treating of women as sexual objects. Leads to those cringe alpha male posturing. Stage orange leads to depression and lots of suicides Orange leads to stuff like ulcers, ADHD, heart attack, insomnia, chronic fatigue disease and a bunch of difficult to diagnosticate auto immune disorders. In it's excesses orange leads to unbridled ambition and competitive stress Orange leads to workaholism and burnout Orange leads to a sense of isolation and loneliness Excessive orange leads to a stifling of creativity, art and beauty Orange leads to a cold technocracy where human beings become like cogs in a machine Orange leads to a loss of connection with nature Orange leads to a dysfunctional health care system  
    Common mantras of Orange!
     
    Greed is good! Just do it! The sky is the limit! Win at all cost! Survival of the fittest! Nothing ventured nothing gained Can't take care of yourself? Grow up! Stop being lazy! I made a killing in the market today! Trickle-down economics! Each is responsible for him or herself You never get a second chance to make a first impression There is more than one way to skin a cat We can kill two birds with one stone Every man for himself Pull yourself up by your bootstraps! Fake it till you make it Work hard play hard To orange reality is impersonal and it doesn't care about you, and the only reason a rock from space hasn't hit your head is just by pure luck.  
    What triggers orange?
     
    Orange is triggered by:
    Blue, Green and Turquoise God, religion, creationism, myth and superstition The new age. Like spirituality, mysticism and woo-woo pseudo-science. Hippies Alternative medicine triggers orange, like chakras, or healing an illness using your mind Reincarnation, UFO's ,intelligent design, flat earth, auras, past lives, paranormal stuff, cult leaders Astrology Feminism Irrationality Intuition Philosophy and metaphysics Constrains on business and entrepreneurship Following the rules, by red tape, and by bureaucracy Big government intervention, and government regulation and the welfare state Losers, bums and freeloaders(Orange tends to be blind of it's own privilege) Socialism, communism and communal thinking. Orange doesn't like being part of a community The thought that the universe may have human qualities like love. Identity politics and political correctness People who take too long to get to the point People who have a lack of ambition to rise above average Lack of focus on results and in action taking. Too much talking, too much planning. Orange likes to get to the point. Archaic, overly religious societies like the middle east. Hillbillies and rednecks.  
     
    How to transcend Orange?
     
    Read in-depth about the limits of Orange. (The limits of capitalism, the damage that's been done to the environment etc) Read in-depth about Green (It is progressivism, caring about other beings, empathy, femininity) Stop judging stage Green Also ask yourself this: What is the price of my success? Who has to suffer so that I can bask in beauty and luxury and goods. Notice that success doesn't equate to happiness. Notice that more technology doesn't make you happy either. Acknowledge community and that you are part of a community. Mankind is a tightly knit community. Start to study spirituality Stop conflating religion with spirituality Start to see that there is more to life than pragmatism and that pragmatism doesn't make you happy at all. Notice the limits of science and technology Notice that Orange societies are unsustainable Acknowledge the damage that business does Acknowledge the gross inequality in the world Acknowledge environmental destruction Acknowledge animal cruelty in factory farming Acknowledge that socialism isn't bad Make a distinction between communism and socialism from the soviet era and all the evils that came from that and recognize that wasn't green it was actually blue. Find a heart centred life purpose Stop working so much. You work too much. Enjoy life too! Start deepening your relationships Stop treating women just as sexual objects Start to actually care about the people you are relating to. Stop buying shit that you don't need. Start taking psychadelics Reconnect with nature. Enjoy life in more rural settings! Go to music festivals Try alternative medicine Start recycling Start treating your employees like humans and not robots Acknowledge the limits of of analysis, logic and quantification Become a more holistic thinker rather than a narrow minded technical analyst. Surrender control and the desire to manipulate the system and to exploit the game. Embrace your emotions and your feminine side more Embrace your intuition Start to become more compassionate, more empathic, and more loving Cut out videogames, television and social media And lastly the master key to transcending any stage is contemplation and self-reflection, analyse your behaviour!  

  3. Leo's Blog Discussion Mega-Thread
    Leo's Blog Discussion Mega-Thread
    You are correct that in the end things hinge on one's values, and there is no objectively correct set of values. My values are not objectively best, nor would I ever claim that. However, one's choice of values matters a lot in terms of where you'll end up.
    Actualized.org is about a certain set of values which are designed to take one to very high places. If you disagree with the values you can find other teaching with others priorities. But, your understanding of God will suffer for it. If you don't care about understanding God, then fair enough. There is nothing I can say to make you care. And yes, there are tradeoffs. Your social life will take a hit. Your career may take a hit. Your family may take a hit. Those are some of the costs, and most people will not want to make those tradeoffs.
    But, then they lose the right to speak about God because they know not what they say. If you select your family over Truth, then you lose the right to speak about Truth because your ideas about it will be corrupt.
    Any value prioritzed over truth will lead to corruption. This must be the case and people like Jordan do not understand this.
    It is not true that placing beauty or love over truth will lead to the same place. It will not. It must end in corruption.
    Not as hard as you make it sound.
    I suggest something deeper is at play. They never even understood the import of pure understanding.
    They are lost, but it is their right to be lost.
    No, they aren't.
    They are doing much less profound work. But you are right that that's not wrong per se. They just don't know what they are missing.
    Yes, philosophers can have smaller aims than God and there is utility to those smaller aims. For example, Vlad Vexler is a great political philosopher but totally clueless about God. Is he wrong? Not really. But also, he cannot even imagine what he's missing. I would never criticize him about his lack of understanding of God because he doesn't pretend to know. Jordan Hall presents Christianity is a valid path towards God. This is where I must come in to say that that is an advanced self-deception.
    The reason I exist is to tell people what they're missing, because they don't even know. If a Christian knew how much he was missing, he would drop Christianity immediately. But the mind is so closed that it will never know.
    You sorta just have to trust me that something huge is being missed.  But of course you cannot know whether I'm right or wrong. In the end, no matter which teaching you follow, you have to trust that it will lead you somewhere higher than other teachings. There's no way around this problem.
    Christainity makes certain claims. I make alternative claims. Who is more right? Only you can figure that out.

  4. Is Meditation BS?
    Is Meditation BS?
    There are many valid techniques.
    Noting is better for keeping the mind on track. Just focusing on nothing is really hard without getting lost in thoughts. Noting helps avoid getting lost in thoughts.

  5. Democrats Need to Face Why Trump Won
    Democrats Need to Face Why Trump Won
    Bernie's whole appeal is he has the vibe of a genuine decent human being who truly cares about working people. Which is very rare in among politicians. He has vibe of a genuine authentic populist.
    Bernie also appeals to voters who care about policy. Such voters do exist.

  6. Don't worry, Trump supporters will be forced to come to their senses,
    Don't worry, Trump supporters will be forced to come to their senses,
    Obviously right-wing populism is just a grift for the powerful to do business as usual, but with zero checks and balances.
    And a real redistribution of power and wealth is not even on the table.
    The left loses and isn't popular precisely because being truly progressive requires not siding with power.
    Progressives don't have power because power isn't freely given, it must be grabbed.

  7. Where Exactly Do Leo's Teaching Differ From Nonduality?
    Where Exactly Do Leo's Teaching Differ From Nonduality?
    The game everyone is playing is avoiding just sitting down under a tree for 200hrs of non-stop meditation.
    If you look at every human being: academics, scientists, politicians, CEOs, New Agers, right-wingers, progressives, influencers, celebrities, etc -- all they're doing is just a clever strategy of avoiding sitting under that tree.
    They will do anything, say anything, they will riot -- all just to avoiding sitting under that tree.
    That's what it all boils down to. Because sitting under that tree is the death of all their bullshit.

  8. Where Exactly Do Leo's Teaching Differ From Nonduality?
    Where Exactly Do Leo's Teaching Differ From Nonduality?
    Meditation rewires the brain/mind in ways that psychedelics cannot. Hardcore meditation sharpens perception in important ways.
    Psychedelics also sharpen perception but in ways that just don't last long enough.
    Meditation also forces the mind to confront difficult emotional labor that is different from psychedelics. Meditation forces you to confront boredom and addictions in a very serious way that psychedelics cannot.
    If you haven't done a 200hr retreat you really should. It will be hell, but you'll also learn a lot.

  9. If you have the money to get out of the USA, why haven't you?
    If you have the money to get out of the USA, why haven't you?
    Yes, of course. But this thread was asking why I personally haven't run away.
    Every government policy hurts someone because there are 350M people. Obama deported a lot of illegals. Just because tens of thousands are hurt doesn't mean America is unlivable or even that anything major has changed.
    People ARE exaggerating the effects of politics on everyday life in general. This is true while it is also true that tens of thousands are hurt. For American life to really change, tens of millions would need to be hurt. That's not even so easy to accomplish.
    Even if Trump wanted to, he doesn't have the manpower to deport 10 million illegals. There are pragmatic limits to how much damage can be done how quickly. Which is not to say he can't do some very dangerous things like start a war. But aside from a war or serious market crash, most Americans will not feel anything. This is not me being callous, this is just how society works.
    Don't forget that even during war, most people feel nothing. In Russia, most people are still living their lives business as usual. Even with 1M Russia losses. That's still only <1% of the population.
    What you guys are missing is how robust society is. Even if 20% of Americans died tomorrow, life would go on. Sounds harsh but that's the reality. And yes, the rich are always insulated from the worst of it. Who do you think is dying in Russia? Not the rich. So it has always been and so it will always be.
    The whole point of being rich is that survival is easier. This isn't an error. Those who work harder and smarter have more resources to shelter the winter. If you live alone in the wilderness and work twice as hard and twice as smart, your chances of surviving the winter are 4 times greater.
    I have been very vocal about the dangers of Trump. But it's important to also keep that in realistic proportion.

  10. There are two big types of leftists
    There are two big types of leftists
    Basically anyone under the age of 35 will have very immature and unworkable politics. Because they don't have enough life experience to understand how power and survival really works. Their politics will be some version of group-think, either left or right. It takes enormous life experience to understand why politics works as it does and not by your naive ideals.

  11. Giving up on pick up.
    Giving up on pick up.
    21 years old virgin, keep failing at pick up despite thousands of approaches. It's just that there's something wrong with life, at this point. I just don't understand what more should i do to get girls. I guess the problem with pick up is that it's seen as creepy to talk to strangers, it's just uncomfortable and unnatural, people naturally just want to talk to people they already know. I'm tired of failure. There must be something wrong with this world, man, i just don't get it at this point.
    Abstinence is torture and doesn't work. And when you try to take responsibility and fix your sex life, it also doesn't work. What should i do ? Go and rape a girl then? I just hate life because of this problem, all i do is think about girls and all i get is rejections. Is it my fault i was born with a body that craves sex without being able to ever satisfy this need ?

  12. Elon Musk Shenanigans thread
    Elon Musk Shenanigans thread
    Remember that Trump is a fake billionaire, and he knows it. So he craves to be around real billionaires because it makes his fantasy feel more real. And what could be more flattering to his ego than being friends with "the world's richest man".
    It's all about the narcissistic supply.
    Trump is cosplaying his ultimate ego fantasy of wealth, power, and fame.

  13. Elon Musk Shenanigans thread
    Elon Musk Shenanigans thread
    You can read anecdotes about Musk from people like Kara Swisher. She was his friend before he turned on her and called her evil for daring to criticize his immaturity.
    She says he's kinda lonely and miserable in his private life.
    Frankly I'm sick of hearing about these Tech Bros. They are all corrupt and shallow as hell. Success and power addicts who understand nothing of what life is really about.

  14. So tired of gurus telling me I need to suffer first to deserve happiness
    So tired of gurus telling me I need to suffer first to deserve happiness
    It's not primarily physical pain. It is the emotional pain of the ego struggling and dying.

  15. Why does physical reality and other people feel so real?
    Why does physical reality and other people feel so real?
    Why do dreams feel real until you wake up?
    MIND loves to imagine realities. That's what MIND do.
    Dreams ARE real. It's just that you can wake up from them.

  16. I can't allow myself to be more optimistic and positive
    I can't allow myself to be more optimistic and positive
    1) The #1 goal should be truth and accuracy of your perception.
    2) Being negative and cynical is then not truthful nor accurate.
    3) Hopeful fantasy is also untruthful. So that's out.
    4) True optimism comes not from waiting for good things to fall upon you, but from knowing that if you follow timeless principles you can work your way towards good things by creating them for yourself.
    5) It is true that through hard work and creativity you can create great things for yourself and the mankind.
    6) There is always a chance bad things will fall upon you. That's just life. But you have some control over how you handle it and you can turn many bad things into good things through hard work, intelligence, and creativity.

  17. So tired of gurus telling me I need to suffer first to deserve happiness
    So tired of gurus telling me I need to suffer first to deserve happiness
    Doing self-help comes with its own burden. Self-help has a cost. Which is why most people don't do it and remain common fools.
    You want to know what happens when you don't do self-help? Look at Elon Musk. He's hyper-successful externally, but he's a man-child internally. That's why we take on the burden of self-help.
    It's not really self-help, it's the philosopher's life. The ancient Greek philosophers lived in pursuit of The Life Of Virtue, The Good Life. This requires cultivation of character. Which requires deep inner work, which is a burden. They took on this burden because otherwise you will become a corrupt, animal-like man who lives for nothing more than sex, money, power, fame, and pleasure. This is the life of a beast.
    Religion and philosophy is about elevating oneself towards the Good, towards God, towards Truth, towards Love.
    Those who do not do the work remain children.
    There are many different ways of doing the work. But no one is forcing you to do the work. You can choose to remain a child.

  18. Voting the Spiral: height vs balance
    Voting the Spiral: height vs balance
    Vote for the highest stage running who has a decent chance of winning.
    That's the principle.
    Do not vote for people who have no chance of winning even if they are Jesus. Jesus is never going to win an election so don't even consider that option.

  19. So tired of gurus telling me I need to suffer first to deserve happiness
    So tired of gurus telling me I need to suffer first to deserve happiness
    You don't have to develop at all if you don't want to.
    But if you follow Actualized.org then it's assumed that you care about developing. And if you are going to undertake the goal of developing yourself to high stages, that will involve emotional labor and suffering. It certainly won't be easy or automatic.
    Can you be happy without developing at all? That's an interesting question. It much depends on your psyche. Some psyches can be happy living unconsciously, others cannot.
    Could you just live a happy life of career, family, sex, success, travel, etc. and never think about development? Maybe. But you might also get stuck and unhappy doing that.
    Realistically, your life will stall out at some point and you will seek for solutions. Those solutions will involve development, which will involve work and suffering.
    It's like if you wanted to start a business. Starting a business involves suffering more so than if you didn't. Doing difficult things is difficult. There's no way around that other than not doing anything difficult. Which will ironically create its own kind of suffering.
    As the Buddha wisely said, life is suffering.
    This work is not about me or anyone telling what is good. It's about you recognizing the Good using your own conscious intelligence. The highest intelligence in you sees the Good, at least to some degree. The more development work you do, the clearer you will see the Good.
    Do you have to be good? Nope. You can be a psychopath. But you won't be happy with those results.
    The reason for being good is not because you're told but because your intelligence recognizes that it is objectively the best way to live. Living badly is not intelligent.

  20. Decentralized ownership of automated labor
    Decentralized ownership of automated labor
    I love the idea of collective ownership of automated labor.
    Unfortunately this feels like a pipe dream because robots and factories are super expensive and the capitalists who pay for them will never give up that property to the public without a bloody Marxist revolution.
    The problem with Marxism has always been that factories are expensive and some private people had to pay for their development. Publicizing private property is basically like theft, which is why elites will oppose it furiously.
    I think it's just easier to tax the rich.
    There is no getting around the problem of elite resistence to redistrubution of wealth because they are all addicted to hoarding money and power.

  21. Leo's Hot Take on Socializing: Missing the Point Entirely
    Leo's Hot Take on Socializing: Missing the Point Entirely
    Right. Which is why what I said doesn't make sense to you. That's not an accident.
    No. That's not what I'm talking about.
    I've done a lot of socialization. And what I eventually realized is that none of it truly satisfies me. Even when I go really deep with someone, it's still too shallow.
    What I'm talking about is a mind that is not satisfied by socializing because it is fundamentally too shallow no matter how good you do it.
    Understanding such a mind will be challenging for most humans because they don't have it. Which is the whole point of why I made my blog post. The blog post is actually very profound. The profundity of it might take someone two decades to appreciate. Maybe never if you don't have the right kind of mind.
    Depth of mind cannot be about competition, because competition is shallow. There is no satisfaction in beating another human. This satisfaction is for shallow minds.

  22. Leo's Hot Take on Socializing: Missing the Point Entirely
    Leo's Hot Take on Socializing: Missing the Point Entirely
    Introversion is the avoidance of socialization because it is found vapid and unsatisfying relative to the effort and hassle required.
    Women find humans beings more interesting than men do, because their survival requires that. Men are not so interested in humans but more interested in things. So that is also an overlooked factor.

  23. Lost in hyperreality. Please change my mind
    Lost in hyperreality. Please change my mind
    The most important insight I had about that, is that when you run a public company you are effectively taking on the endless survival attachment. You're not just attached to the survival of all your employees, but all the stockholders. This effectively makes it impossible to ever break free from survival because you have infinite mouths to feed endlessly.
    In a small private company you can transcend survival by earning enough to feed a small number of mouths. But with a public company this is impossible because all your investors demand endless increasing growth. Which is equivalent to endless pressure to do evil. No amount of evil is ever enough in such a system.
    So the #1 thing you must do to avoid evil is not make your business publicly traded.

  24. Leo's Blog Discussion Mega-Thread
    Leo's Blog Discussion Mega-Thread
    Ambition is just a core personality trait. In that case it doesn't have any satisfaction or end. Ambition means you want the best, the biggest, the most significant, the perfect. You want to be the best in the world at something so its own sake. Like, you want to be best and biggest bank robber in the world.
    Of course ambition can also be fueled by various negative problems in the psyche like not receiving enough love, feeling fundamentally inadequate or unlovable, needing endless narcissistic supply, getting high on fame or power, megalomania, needing a sense of meaning to avoid facing the meaningless of life and your own death, childhood trauma, etc.
    Or, you could just be driven to do the most good in the world because you want to live the best life possible. And doing the most good requires having lots of power, wealth, and influence.
    If you really wanted to improve the world, you would earn billions and then use it to fund philanthropic projects.

  25. Leo's Blog Discussion Mega-Thread
    Leo's Blog Discussion Mega-Thread
    1) Most people who have deep understanding of God had help from the right genetics.
    2) Hegel was enrolled in religious training. He was basically a quasi mystic. He did it through Christianity from what I gather. Hardcore serious Christians can do such things, especially with the right genetic foundation.
    Don't forget, there's also a rich history of theology. You can learn serious truth from theology if you pick the right sources. I bet Hegel studied serious Christian theology.
    It's like you're asking, Why did Newton discover calculus or Einstien E=mc2? Obviously they were freakishly intelligent, unique minds.