Javfly33

Does THIS have 'borders' in your experience? true

I mean yoga is powerful is not like you are taking a psychedelic. You guys are exaggerating a bit I think. I´ve had some crazy reactions doing the shamavhi kriya but is very gradual, you get one every few weeks, then you get one every few days, then you might have 2-3 reactions every day you go the kriya for a month, but at that point the body/mind is so used to that level of energy is not a problem anymore, there is no a trace of suffering of fear, just pure explosivity. Psychedelics just put you in that intensity non-stop for 5-6 hours before any kind of preparation. Is not the same. Also imo is still not potent enough, that´s why I personally keep doing the yoga, even me that have gone pretty hardcore and serious with this stuff still find I would like more potency. So unless you are schizophrenic or something if is a well designed kriya nothing serious should happen to you. Also you can literally connect with sadhguru via consciousness if you want if you get enough conscious. You dont need to send him an email. One time I channeled him for a couple a minutes after finishing the shamavhi.

Sure, it has a body, but not only that I mean 😅 I guess you can, but the price might be human life.

Infinity has everything. You are just playing with words and is becoming to get tired. You don´t seem to be conscious of who you are. Not sure what is your point exactly. The absolute is Infinite. It is not confined to any perception or experience.

Because you won´t be able to hold yourself in your current body. You think this is like changing Remote WEBCAMS on a website? We are talking about Consciousness here. Consciousness Is not physical but it has a physical bound aspect to it right now in your experience. The little times I´ve gotten peaks outside my current perception already felt it was too much for the body to handle. Notice this will completely destroy your reality and illusion for ever if that would happen. Maybe if you get your system to an extraordinary stable point you can do some wacky stuff. But definetely won't happen writing in a forum. For that there are yogic schools and so on.

I gotta be with Leo on this. You can not tap into all Infinity while maintaining a body. Body will break/won´t handle the energy soon once you open the "gates" of perception beyond one's own current senses. You can peak a bit outside, but not too much, or the light might blind you and kill you 😂.

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Thats a bit exagerated. I know ive taken a psychedelic in all of my trips even the most hardcore mindblowing ones. Of course IS not like im thinking that during the trip... But if someone would enter the room and ask me is not like i wouldnt know, like, is not salvia or something. But yeah, is true that the state of consciousness of those chems is too radical and Intense to be thinking about creating a spiritual practice.

Have you thought about Taking 5-MeO or DMT and while you are in in that absolute level of consciousness you create your own spiritual practice? So later when you are 'sober' you can use it.

ok 🙏 good luck

surrender to enlightment kills you, that's why I keep denying the truth. Is impossible to truly accept the truth. How can you live in enlightment all the time? is death

weren´t you enlightened?

yup 🙏

Are you vacuum-ing us Leo? 😆

#Facts 😆😆

Not imagining in the sense of a dream when sleeping, because in that case is just my brain dreaming a character. More like if there is a truly surrendering of the sense of self, then I am not experiencing being in the body, therefore being is everywhere. I mean dream is just a word. Something that appears out of nothing, which does not have any substance whatsoever. Forms that appear from an empty reality, I say dream is a good word, but I guess it can lead to confusion sometimes since is a word with certain meaning attached.

There is no 'point of view', but Awareness entangling himself with thoughts, thus creating a so-called 'point of view'. There´s nothing to escape because 'I' is not bound to perception. Only if you identify with current perception you will have to try to 'escape' so called 'personal perception'.

if you are the world how can you call it 'external' ? @r0ckyreed

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I see it exactly as a lucid dream. When there is just dreaming unconsciously you can have a nightmare after the other. But when you realize is a dream suddenly there is conscious creation. You can will yourself to fly within the dream if you want. Or at least you will not create a monster. IMO whole of reality is one infinite empty boundless energy that can create consciously or unconscious. I think is truly possible that there can be an 'evolution' of the intelligence of the field itself @Breakingthewall In the same way when one takes 5-MeO-DMT what Is happening? The field is evolving from unconsciousness to consciousness. So the field of energy is in a process of evolution. From deeper unconscious creation to conscious creation.

Here´s an even deeper mindfuck. When 'I' don't exist it still exists. Because true Me does not die. I don´t agree, there's no solipsistic bubble in my experience. But boundless infinity. yeah, Except that external world does not exist because is still You. Building is also You. Only if you identify yourself as being 'your experience'. But if 'your' experience becomes just 'another experience', then another possibility opens up that is not either the first or the second one.

@BipolarGrowth Yes. If I let go of my ego I can go look a flower for 20 minutes straight and realize what im seeing is impossible, is pure magic. Yup.

On one hand I agree, on another, you are literally God. Is not like there is a human and then there is God. You are just creating unconsciously. If you are creating a lion with no thinking or much emotion then no problem. But when is a human there is no excuse for you to create a pleasant human. The fabric of reality has intelligence after all. Sure, is not a personal force but it created the personal force that does crave pleasantness and easiness. Can we get there for once or are you guys going to keep dreaming in outside forces? --- The OP the same. He thinks God is something different than him. LoL.

There´s nothing to be sure about. You can just accept Truth of what you are or not. Is necessary that Thoughts that provide contraction and belief are not belief/generated anymore. For that I would recommend a good solid daily practice. Is necessary you break the illusion that your current 'sober' experience is a 'state' different than one of a psychedelic. 'This' is not a state. Is Truth. But thoughts of this being a 'state' are veiling what is already obvious. 'This' is the same as psychedelic experience. You are just telling yourself is not. God does not let anything because God is not a being. Is non-being empty Energy. The energy is literally consciousness though, so the more conscious it becomes the less suffering (anti-life) it create, and more Love (Life) will create. You are God literally, so you must take all the responsibility and create what YOU WANT is worth to exist in this dream. Is it going to be love or is it going to be sadness? Is it going to be joy and connection or is it going to be separation and contraction? You decide. You are the Creator. There is nothing outside of you choosing anything.

@BlueOak you have a point on that. The truth lies somewhere probably between sadhguru claims and Leo denial. We all kinda exploring the limits of infinity, I think Leo limits infinity when he takes that derrotist mentality. And sadhguru is try to see how unlimited it can be. I mean... isn´t mahasamadhi itself just the proof for oneself to verify Truth is real? Everything is imagination...if we imagine limits they become reality. Yesterday morning I entered 5-meo-dmt state doing shamavhi. In the same intensity. Absolute non-dual boundless clarity Reality is me. But Leo would say that is impossible .... well he´s obsessed with the limits of infinity. But infinity has no limits. We are creating them .