Javfly33

Greatly over-rated

You don´t get it. ALL thoughts are desire.

Yeah, here in Spain is the same. You just sit outside a supermarket, and in 15minutes you can get someone to buy you food. Homeless, at least here, spend ALL the money they get from people in drugs, alcohol or buying stuff. Never on food. Not to say that is a particular comfortable life, i wouldn't chose that life, i would prefer to stay in an ashram or just go to nature to see how time I can survive lol. but just saying, it's definitely not a full time job . Source: a friend of mind went homeless for 3 months

Yeah, but the funny thing about that is that to do that kind of commitment you already have to want to let go of your survival pretty much : let go of sex, let go of fun, let go of money, let go of adventures ?? Although is a good resource to know about in case one day you fall homeless. ??

The problem is each person has a quality level of what he considers Enlightement. I think categorizing in state of consciousness as lately Leo does, it's way more accurate and it avoids a lot of BS and self delusion. What I wanted to point out is that I feel people use the phrase Enlightement too easily. Lots of people are way too stuck in survival yet you guys call them enlightened. @Breakingthewall thanks for sharing. That's interesting because I read several trip reports of 5-MeO where people report the same "feeling" you are saying. In my case my trials with 5-MeO it hasn't happened any of this. There wasn't any feeling of "everything happened in my life to get me Here". This seemed like a ego type of story to keep the control or feeling of importance within the dream.. But maybe I'm still a newbie and I ll have to go deeper. Who knows.

What is your reasoning behind this? Have you asked God or Reality itself if it has an "intention"? I didn't meant that. My main critique is that you always define a Enlightened being as a being who has trascended survival (So far this is what Enlightement is supposed to be), yet it seems you justify that these beings maintain a survival agenda and you still consider that person enlightened. See, even "helping humanity" is a bias of you being human. Why not "help ants"? If you have a human bias after Enlightement, then what did you really accomplished? Not to say that awakenings can do a tremendous difference to make a person more conscious, loving, ...etc. Yet calling that Enlightement...hmm.

Right. What I think its that there´s about 90% of people who say they are awake and enlightened and in reality they are just BS. For starters if you would be really awake you realize there are no others so it´s kind of playing a dumb game with yourself by "helping others".

@Leo Gura Well if you don´t go beg for food you will literally die. So basically what you are saying is that Buddhas either they starve to death or they are homeless. If a Buddha keeps a full-time job, maybe he is not so enlightened. (Unless of course his job is something very passionate which brings him joy) Why the effort of mainteining a job? He should be sitting peacefully meditating not caring if somebody will put a plate of food near him or not.

@Someone here Upps. You jumped too fast to conclusions... Who said I was talking about an individual? I was talking about You...

That´s cute, but you don´t fool me. You are mainteinig an ego like all of us. This is actually not even a matter of discussion, there are level of consciousness where the ego doesn´t exist and there are levels where the ego does exist. It exists as an illusion, sure, but since illusion can give you a very real toothache, for the sake of it we take that state into account too. See if you what you are telling me is that you are in constant high-awareness awakened state of consciousness, then that´s fine. I don´t believe you though, but yeah if you would then ego would not exist there.

In the absolute sense you didn't said something false, but who lives in that state? The reality is that most of us are stuck within the relative , thus we carry an ego with us. Ego is your whole fucking history as a human. (And the one you are maintaining right now unless you just a had a sudden raise of consciousness). So yeah, I think it does 'exist'.

Bro...

I think few people has trascended the brain ... everybody seems victim of brain chemistry no matter how much awakenings they had. I sometimes wonder, if we really can´t change our state at will, are we really conscious reality is imaginary? Probably because we are not. Or we are not so sure. At the other hand, only God has will, not the ego. So all this is just mental masturbation probably. God somtimes it´s so depressing that the ego it´s so powerless in just everything.

If time doesn´t exist you must be God then

Very good. Loved it.

If you want to be sure just sending it to test it. What you want us to say? We don´t have superpowers to know what drug do you have.

I don´t agree. Is that your personal experience?

The ego is your whole life as a human separate from the "physical world". That´s it. Now you can have a more healthy and conscious ego or not. But as long as you want to keep surviving in this human form you will keep an ego.

Reality is God. Take your own conclusions of that.

That meme is amazing. I never had thought about it like that. @Bulgarianspirit

Right I agree then

If there is no one watching why do you say there is perceving? 1- the ability to see, hear, or become aware of something through the senses. 2 - the way in which something is regarded, understood, or interpreted.

@Nahm Oh really? Yeah she´s great! I discovered her with that song which is from his last album. She´s got more great songs in that album too!

It didn't existed in the absolute/truth sense. As an illusion, yes, the perceiver exists.