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Its intangible. So because how our finite minds works theres a self referential aspect to it that is our sense of self. So its gonna try to identify. Its that there is our knowing of our own existence. Self Aware-Knowing or Awareness. Its the very essence of what we are, we cant really refer to it easily because its like we're trying to call out the interface with reality. But that would imply 2 things. Its just the awareness. Bring it back a notch to before you identify. I think you got it tho, You have experienced a degree of awakening. Total Awakening is when you understand all of yourself perfectly.

100% would agree with this! Its just like "Here I Am" to "Here..AM" to just "AM!" Which we call "Pure Awareness"

This clicked something for me, Thank You! Alot of confusion dropped away immediately. Feels like a koan was answered. lol

Its not Linear like that. Its a spectrum or scale as mentioned. You can "skip" from any state to any state. Eckhart Tolle "skipped" From Apathy straight to Enlightenment from a single ultimate surrender. This also happened to move him into Stage Turquois. However this model is different from Spiral Dynamics Stages. You can not skip a stage and states are not linear like that. These Models of how Enlightenment works are only models.. A state of consciousness can be experienced at any stage. We know this through psychedelic use. Hawkins is referring to the states not the stages. There are certain characteristics with in a state that remain more persistent in a stage. Which is generally why there is confusion in understanding the relation between the models. As for leveling up, its not linear like that, so it doesn't exactly apply in that way. When you frame it like that, the ego will immediately begin getting in your way. However I understand in what manner your trying to refer to when you say "leveling up. "Level" here, Is used to refer to a position on the scale which consist of specific characteristics and quality, it is used to identify a persons state of consciousness, and refers to the quality of life that is present with in that state of consciousness. Your not leveling up or down. Your just experiencing different qualities of experience. For the context of this dialog, Its more accurate to say "point" because now when we say "point" of consciousness it removes the linearity idea, Now your able to understand what your actually trying to d, which is experience the characteristics of certain "points" of consciousness that correlates to the level you want to experience. You then make an assumption that you can level up to the "point" or experience you want, because you assume the experience you have is down. So the only reason you think you need to level up is to experience a better level than the one your at. But Because consciousness doesnt work like that your gonna be playing a tricky mental game with yourself. So focus on bettering the quality of your life through self actualization work and forget about leveling up, then check back in on the scale to gauge your progress. This will reduce the egoic payoff you imagine.

Yeah I know what your talking about. What it sounds like your doing is living in a perspective of a perspective of yourself. Your understanding of emotion and human connection leads you to believe how people sense each others feelings, because you have noticed it in the past. So due to this, you feel uncomfortable because your anticipation of making them feel uncomfortable is uncomfortable. Your anticipating someone elses feelings before hand which is adding resistance to your own emotions. Then you become worried about them sensing this off you. This anticipatory fear is a thought the mind gets stuck on then sustains it, because what you resist, persist, this creates the uncomfortable emotions you feel and want to prevent others from sensing. There is basically a counterintuition going on, which is your desire to not make them feel uncomfortable around you, this is counterintuitively doing the opposite in your mind. Then fear of a self fulfilling prophecy (them sensing you/feeling uncomfortable) arises adding to your own resistance. So becoming aware of that entire process in your direct experience gives you some "letting go" over it reducing the amount the thought is stuck, loosening up how it feels. The less attention you give the thoughts the less momentum it will have over your emotions. Mindfulness and self introspection during these moments will help you cope with this, and allow your mind to resolve it naturally. You have good emotional intelligence and empathy so its not a bad thing this occurs, its just you want to try to accurately interpret what's really going on.

These are only thoughts, and are illusory, Leo has a video on thoughts. "Grasping the illusory nature of thoughts." The harmful thoughts dont mean anything and generally point to the opposite of how you believe you are, which is why they bother you, your trying to avoid them which gives them the energy. Just know everyone at one time or another in their life experiences similar thoughts. Theres a book that may help you, Its called "Overcoming unwanted intrusive thoughts." Theres a small section specifically about harm and self harm. Then later the book teaches you further how to understand and get over them.

Because theres something else that happens there. Its very challenging to put it into words. Because its almost more of a qualia if anything. But deeper than a sensation.

I agree thats basically what I was saying too, people consider perception as something outside or separate from their self.

"I amness" would be prior to perception, its perception that allows you to recognize this. They are pretty much merged as a Perspective. We would call this Experience

Whoa, thats different, theres quiet a distinction there. It almost like illusory or kind of a "floaty" kind of observation to it. Thats way different than trying to talk about it. I understand.

It actually doesnt take any more than that. Understanding is the upward path of Consciousness. In other words the upward path is the path of understanding. Understanding as a path of Consciousness.

@Leo Gura Is my answer close at all? lol

I would agree with Judy here. The purpose of your perspective is simply to exist as a perspective. Then second order things are able to come online such as thinking and sensing where the ability to form meaning and reason also come online. Which all function with in the perspective to give the perspective a sense of direction. Understanding is a second order function. Your perspective comes first, and has the capacity to form understanding. You could call spiritualty the process of understanding "Being" Which really is the search to understand your Self. So "understanding" when it is fully comprehended, may just be the condensed word of Self Realization . Like when you understand something your really just realizing parts of your Self. Because everything is the Self, "Being" You can only Understand that which is within being. That which is Being is the Self or God.

This is simply false.. Not sure of the exact time frame but The United States military force has so many members that as late as 2013 there was a reduction of forces, allowing member to discharge early. Some restrictions were also applied to eligibility to join to prevent such a wide range of potential candidates. Since then there has been no trouble with recruitment and many highschool kids still desire to join. There is also a wide variety a prerequisite requirements to join disqualifying many people.

Get this book, "Overcoming unwanted intrusive thoughts" It is a CBT based guide. I assume most of your issues are stemming from your thoughts and this book does a really great job at helping you understand these things and what you can do about it, in case you want to avoid the whole medical field and therapist approach.

Different era, location, culture, beliefs of the people.

Speaking from personal experience, I served in the United States Marine Corps, and let me tell you the idea you have about the military is completely different from what it really is like, your right its a different world. Its kind of like before ever taking a psychedelic you have an idea about it but then you take it and BAM its completely different than what you expected. The social image that it portrays is not the experience you will have. This is a designed portrayal in order to recruit people. Bravery and Valor come from you, under military like circumstances does the need for these attributes arise, but its not taught and cannot be given out. The military will restructure your paradigm by means that are less than comfortable. Primarily fear based and culture shocked yet effective in conditioning into you a specific perspective that allows you to fit into the structure of military life. They will break you down psychologically and then build you back up, However they do instill you with higher conscious values and build personal discipline and respect for self and others, as well as teach you certain skill sets that prove useful under a wide range of different circumstances. The reason I joined was to obtain the skillsets and traits because I intuited having that background would be useful as a survival function to me and has proven to be useful to my life. So you do want to have an intention to why your going to spend at least 4 years of your life doing this. Survival becomes very easy in the military. You do not have any bills to pay besides your own cellphone-vehicle-or internet bills. All your food is had at the chow hall, 3 meals a day, and you can still purchase your own at a discounted price from the commissary. Shelter is taken care of if you live in the barracks, so no rent payments. If your married, you can apply to live at on base housing. Income is rank based and promotion is time and effort based, based on a point system. You reach the cutting score, you rank up. You get paid more but you now have more responsibility that is to include managing and protecting the lives of the troops below you. This builds lasting friendships and trust as you work with your comrades. Your set at a higher standard. Depending on your personal job or (MOS) you may never see combat or go overseas or you may go a few times, it depends. Its 4 years at least for active duty and most deployments are only 6-12 months out of 4 years, so you will if you deploy, experience places and things that you never have and probably never will again and the rest of the 3 years is you training, taking classes, doing courses, preparing for deployment, learning skills and studying information related to your job and the military as well as meeting requirements like uniform inspections, physical fitness, gear inventory, cleaning weapons and building connections with your fellow troops. So its not like your in combat for the whole time like people imagine it to be, and even then your spending most of your time on post or doing patrols and still can never see any combat. The psychological toll it takes on some people who do experience combat who fail to integrate in a healthy way can inhibit the quality of their life for the rest of their life, such as those with PTSD, if they do not properly learn how to psychologically ground their selves and do shadow work on their experiences. The impact it can have on leaving the military can be troublesome to adapt back into normal society, which can bring its own set of challenges. But with the work actualized.org teaches you can recontexualize your experience and adjust into a new perspective that transcends and includes the military one, making you more diverse in the way you can think and interpret experience. As a side note; generally when you meet another military member outside there is an instant connection and trust that you don't experience with many other people. That can be valuable when you need someone to talk to who can understand your experience. Also, it is useful when working in groups, as people will relate to you differently when they learn your a veteran. This can helpful when applying for jobs, as your skillset and attributes are ideal in the workforce. The general experiential format here is based on my own experience so it varies depending on what job you have in the military. My MOS was Field Artillery and we deployed as a Provisional Infantry Unit to Afghanistan. It sounds like you prefer to join as an infantry member based on your expectations so my experience is relevant to that idea. I feel i covered the majority of whats to be expected as well as potential concerns. If you have any other questions feel free to ask.

@Preety_India Heal your relationship with yourself. Often we are always looking outside ourselves. We're looking to heal something external. Try to turn inwards and observe your relationship with yourself. When have you paid attention to your own inner voice? Do you judge your self harshly? Repair your relationship with your "self." How do you approach beginning the process for this? Could you give some examples?

These both induce state changes in consciousness. I have tried both and 5MeO drops the ego where as salvia it is still very much there. Salvia just doesnt compare in the level of insight you get from 5MeO. The methodology is based on your own interpretation, so no one can really tell you. The Truth speaks for itself in a sense.

Reality=Imagination, Can the ego dictate what it can imagine? The ego being an illusion it doesn't really have a say in the matter so, in other words because everything is imagined by God (You/I/Me) is it possible to select content of experience in which to be experienced? Or is it as such that experience simply unfolds on its own accord through a mechanism of imagining? Do thoughts play any part in the process? Do certain states of consciousness facilitate intentional creation more than others? Also im not asking like can I just imagine a certain object into my current perception but more like does your seemingly inner-world of thoughts and imagination influence the seeming outer world of perceptions and to what degree, I would think is dependent on your state of consciousness?

Surrender and letting go of old belief structures, thought patterns and concepts about yourself and the world. Becoming more present and reduction of mentation. Letting go of the idea of "frequency/vibration"

Could you elaborate a little more on this?

@kag101 Yeah same thing happened to me! I was conscious of the field itself, "thought" was no longer personal, Its terribly challenging to live in that state when thoughts seem to be shared, because people can still react to the thoughts you have if they have a personal bias against it. If its oneness im curious how thats suppose to work if there can still be opposing biases? Its like there are degrees of Oneness maybe? Any insight into this?

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