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5 hours ago, Carl-Richard said:That's like four levels of logical error at once. My head.
i decided to go for it after i saw how many people and teachers are practicing it and after i saw level 4 guy walking from south africa to tanzania on foot
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4 hours ago, Carl-Richard said:I have nothing against breatharianism. I have something against how you defined the levels.
As for the legitimacy of breatharianism, even within a materialistic paradigm, you can have increased efficiency and behavioral modes within a system that would lower requirements for things like food. For example, if you have a very low resting heart rate, you are generally calm and not very stressed and you do things in a very consciously aware and streamlined way (like when practicing "active mindfulness"), I wouldn't be surprised if you needed only half of the food of somebody else of a similar size. The one time I spoke on the radio, I was starving a few hours later, probably due to the adrenaline. And definitely if you add on top of that a very "inactive" lifestyle where you maybe only sit and meditate for 12 hours a day (which certainly if you're in a samadhi, is also the most efficient way of "resting"), you probably don't need much of anything for days. And let's also not forget that somebody who weighs less of course needs less food by default than somebody else.
i copied it, it might not be the best.
i dont agree because breathearians do not eat anything. the fact that they have slower metabolism is only part of the explnanation
6 hours ago, Oppositionless said:What do you think about people starving in Africa?
in which way? i do get why they are starving, it is pretty hardcore and long process to be a breatharian
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15 hours ago, MutedMiles said:I didn't knew about this before but i'm living on level 2 since 2017. And period before covid hit I was in my best health, though my age was way past the usually accepted prime age. My reasons were health based only.
But i'm not sure about level 3 or level 4, i would be curious though about the practicality of it.
If you care to answer my question is that if level 4 person doesn't eat most of the time, from where they are deriving the energy to continue living? All sages were eating something.
hmmmmmmmm if you dont practice it you are not a breatharian, especially if you are not aware.
how it works is still a mystery for me. some say it is just prana and thats it, some say it is energy that air gets from the sun. some think it is some use of electricity. in qigong you have bigu practice which is fasting and lots of research about qigong you can see with electricity so maybe qi is just elecricity? idk really
you have lots of people that are level 3 and some 4 and talking about it online.
breatheirans are alwayas eating just not taking energy from food but from other sources pretty much.3 and 4 levels are still living on prana pretty much tbh, how someone can live one 300-400 calories a day? and most of the calories are fresh fruits too.
part of the trick is that their body becomes really good at recycling water and minerals and all kinds of stuff, but still doesnt explain how to live on so little for so long.
14 hours ago, Oppositionless said:Do you have an explanation for how it works?
Does the body become a light body or somerhing?
What happens after you've been a breatharian for 7 years and all your cells have regenerated ? Is your whole body then a light body? Would that lead to physical immortality?
i wrote about the explanation in the quote above you .
what you mean by light body? there are body builders that are pranic and they have lots of muscles but they muscles don't weigh much.
you are eating the purest food so some say it leads to immortality. but the body still decays, maybe slower but you can still die from all kinds of problems . also usually they believe in reincarnation and some can see how they will be after they are dead so i guess they do want to die. really common in yogic tradition to choose to die or living on prana and things like that .so idk about not dying but if you can live on prana it is the best diet you can have for sure.
8 hours ago, Carl-Richard said:A.k.a. intermittent fasting.
Soylent drinkers and protein shake enthusiasts rejoice.
So does anyone.
I would say step up the definition game for this one.they are not soylent drinkers and protein shakers. they are living on fresh fruits and vegetables, sometimes just the juice and less than 400 calories and sometimes they dont eat at all and do it for many years and be healthy and develop muscles . they do not look out of concentration camps, they look healthy and some gain lots of muscles.
level 4 can not drink or eat for forever, there are people that dont drink or eat for more than 20 years in the community.
i think you dont have any hard data right now (you do have some) on this topic and it is kinda like proving god or enlightment and stuff like that.
if you feel you have a calling just practice it. it is safe practice and just explore yourself safely and see if you live on prana or not. no one gonna win in intellectual arguement about this topic because the data and theories are not good enough but the practice is pretty good and solid i think. especially if you like fasting and meditation and exercise.
i do belive in it but i dont mind if it is pure bullshit because i am having so much fan and feel so good and it really helps my life in many ways. worst case scenario is that i had fun and got some mental medicine becoming more healthy,eating better food and have more muscle, best case senario is worst case senario + food freedom.
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2 hours ago, Sugarcoat said:I’ve changed my meal frequency lately. So nowadays I eat two small meals a day, and one small snack Monday to Thursday. Then Friday to Sunday I only eat two small meals plus if I want, dessert. So I make space for the eventual dessert.
I have been practicing portion control, meaning I’ve reduced my portion sizes to small. I also follow , when the food fits it, the plate model. It’s good for reducing the calories because you’re filling half the plate with non starchy vegetables. For example if I’m eating chicken, rice and veggies. Only a fourth of my plate is chicken, a fourth is rice, and half is veggies.
I like the feeling when I eat less. I also like to feel light. I might incorporate fasting sometimes too. That’s something I could play around with too.
I don’t know how much I believe in true breatharianism. Maybe one would need extreme self/body mastery/awareness to be able to sustain it
try fasting if you like this feeling, feels amazing. just make sure to not rush it and meditate everyday and exercise frequently.
also not eating meat and animal products can really help with light feelings. personally meat effects me alots , eggs is kinda ok for me for now -
1 hour ago, Salvijus said:That's cool. That's the only point I was trying to make.
pranic living is exploration and fun for me. not dogma and religion. if i am having fun and i am safe i can explore as much as i want. there is pretty big amount of evidence that it is real.
1 hour ago, jimwell said:This is very practical because you save much money and time; buy groceries, cook, and wash dishes less often.
I was forced to experience this level or perhaps that was actually level 2.5 for 3 weeks and I lost too much weight. I slept starving every night which made it difficult to function. I felt too thin and awkward, and didn't feel like myself.
also you feel better and can sleep less too and not worry about nutrition because you getting the best food possible.
for me it is not forcing, my body just wants to eat less and less. i feel like i am still over eating and i should eat less. it just happened naturally if you practice it.
breatharians do have low fat levels (women tend to have more fat ). lots of people just exercise and do bodybuilding to look good and not very skinny. exercising is part of the pranic way too.
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16 minutes ago, Salvijus said:My mom eats at level 2 and she's a bit overweight. You can't even lose unnecessary fat on such diet.
the only thing i can agree with you is that it is still in normal eating range, but the rest i dont. also your mom do not practice breatharianism i guess
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6 minutes ago, Salvijus said:Level 1 is exceeding the normal requirement that the body needs.
Level 2 is the normal requirement for the body.
Level 3 is where breatheriansim starts imo.
1. is beliving that the knowledge is true
2. is practicing and getting results. in level 2 you can get to the amount of eating less than recommended and still feeling great which is living on prana pretty much
3. this is the initiation level but it is living on more prana. technically you live on prana before this level.
also it is about freedom, you can be at level 3 and get back to level 2 because you want to
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38 minutes ago, Salvijus said:I would just call this being normal level.
so Breatherianism is not a good name really , the right name should be food freedom. it is all about how much food you choose to eat a day rather than normal level or high level. ofcourse it takes time to get to level 4 but you can go backwards if you want because it is all about feedom.
35 minutes ago, aurum said:Are you looking to move up the levels? Have you ever met anyone at level 4?
Also, what changes have you noticed from being at level 2?
usually people stop at level 3 but idk where it will take me tbh. i am just having fun for now
i feel way better, worry less about hunger, have more energy, sleep better , i am using food less for emotions, i have more clarity. it is really like a mental therapy for me.
also i am exercising more and got more muscle too which is nice.i really hope that i will eat food only for fun and not for the need of my body.
it is all about freedom overall and having fun.
8 minutes ago, Someone here said:I wish I could become like that. Its kinda fucked up that you constantly need to fill your stomach with shit everyday if you think about it . I'm sure in 20000 years from now humans will just survive on electricity. You go and charge your battery 🔋 for a couple cents and you are fine for the day .
why dont you start now? this way of life you need to just mediate everyday and fast once a week. there is more practices and info but the basics will get you most of the results
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i am making this post to help people to get education about this topic and maybe face my self-deception in the topic.
do not mock me, as rule number 1 says:Don't Be A Jerk. i will report and block you. only questions without mocking will be answered that are about this topic.
have fun
you probably do not know about the levels so here is info about it:
Breatharian Categories – Levels of Manifestation
level 1: This category consists of people who consume solid food usually three or more times per day. They often have not made any kind of change to their diet since their childhood, or perhaps have only made minimal changes. They largely remain in a digestion mode; out of the 24 hours of the day, these people are digesting, on average, 70-100% of the time.
level 2: The people included in this category have in some way improved upon their state of health and well-being to the point in which they experience a significant increase, or expansion, in their states of consciousness and happiness as a result. This development can occur as a consequence of a change in their diet – often a reduction in both the density as well as the amount of their solid food intake, or it can occur by other means, such as an increase in physical activity or spiritual practice (for instance via sport, dance, yoga, qi gong, meditation, fasting, etc.). The people in this level of manifestation often consume one solid food meal, or two small meals, per day, and out of the 24 hours of the day, their digestive systems are working, on average, 40-60% of the time.
level 3: This category includes most of the people whom we refer to as “Breatharians.” They usually consume liquids containing calories every day, and they might have one or two solid food meals per week, month, or year (and they have been doing as such for a minimum of one year). They also have the capacity to go long periods (weeks or months) only on water, or even without water (dry). These people are digesting, on average, 10-30% of the time.
level 4:This category is comprised of those whom we call fully Breatharian. These people are extremely rare – in our estimate, only one out of every 10 million human beings on the planet fall under this category. They remain in “dry mode” all the time (and have done so for a minimum of one year), or some might drink a little tea, coffee, or water once a day, week, month, or year. Their digestive systems are working, on average, only 0.1-1% of the time (just a recycling of cells).
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17 hours ago, Something Funny said:Sounds legit.
There are 8 billion people on our planet and not a single one of them became a breatharian and agreed to participate in an actual monitored study.
Not a single yogi decided to step up and share this incredible breakthrough with the rest of humanity, potentially solving world hunger, reducing our polution, environmental impact, allowing people to go on long voyages withouth having to stock tons of food.
I guess they just don't care
just listen to the video i put on the post and you will discover that he answers all the things you are talking about...
21 hours ago, The Crocodile said:It's definitely possible. Most of the people that claim to be doing it are probably fake though.
There's a specific knowledge for how to do it, and even then you have to put a lot of effort into it.
The Shiva Samhita gives explicit instructions for how to levitate with specific practices, and by them you're able to levitate it also says you're able to eat as much as you want without harm or to not eat at all, without harm.
Tom Campbell (the physicist) went 15 days without eating trying to transcend it. And Aurobindo doing a 10-day fast and sleep depriving in solitary confinement he partially physically levitated. He also later did another fast where he said, "I fasted for 20 days, did not sleep, observed no rules in breaking the fast. I did not feel weakened. Only the body got emaciated. The physical substance in the body (cells) gets disintegrated and it must often be newly built up by food, otherwise the body sinks." Basically he didn't figure out how to replace the physical stuff in the body without other physical stuff being food, but he did remain high energy the whole time through prana.
why would they lie about it if they make not much money?
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i am here just to put my thoughts and get some perspectivesThe Breatharian Experiment
First of all, there have been experiments involving breatharians, and the results are staggering—almost unbelievable. But skeptics argue that:
He could just be fasting and eating in secret as doctors recommend.
He might be lying for money, fame, or other reasons.
His muscular physique could be due to a well-planned diet rather than breatharian practices.
So, is he lying? And if so, why?
Why Would a Breatharian Lie?
Money?
If he’s doing this for money, it doesn’t add up. He already has a well-paying job in high-tech, and his retreats are relatively cheap—€2,500 for nine days, including a room (but no food, obviously). These retreats usually have fewer than ten participants, and most people only attend once in their life. If he wanted to make money, he could easily earn more by teaching yoga or something similar.Risk vs. Reward
These retreats are dangerous. Why would he take such a huge risk for so little financial gain? If he were only in it for profit, this seems like a terrible business decision.Fame?
If he’s seeking fame, it doesn’t seem worth it. He’s mostly ridiculed online, has a harder time dating and making friends, and barely gets any attention these days compared to eight years ago. Yet, he continues doing this year after year. If fame were his goal, why keep going when it’s not benefiting him anymore?A Cult or Personal Gain?
Unlike some spiritual movements, he doesn’t have a group of devoted followers. He’s not gaining power, status, or sex from this. So if he’s lying, what’s the motivation?The Big Questions:
Are breatharians lying? If so, what’s their real reason?
If they’re not lying, could their claims actually be true? If breatharianism is real, it sounds like an amazing way to live.
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I just discovered that you can use ai to summarize a video , super usefull!
i use it to see if it worth watching or to get all the bullet point.
i am using "YouTube Summary AI with Gemini" , pretty good so far. i had another called "YouTube Summary with ChatGPT & Claude" but it limited the amount of times i can use it and i think it is not worth your time.it would be cool if there is some ai that summerize threads here and for other places, such a time saver!
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4 hours ago, Dazgwny said:Well you could always try other psychedelics. But be sure you can always potentially face ego death on those too. A good likelihood infact if you’ve been following this work. It’s a case of do it or don’t do it. 2 choices that’s it there’s no in between. Because the in between options as I say could very well dissolve that ego of yours too
i dont try to avoid it , i try to make it easier for me , so maybe i should get ego death with other psycadelic when it is slower so my ego can learn how to do that without giving me hell.
i am following this works for years so this is why i can get those results with doing low level of psycadelics , it does take time to warm up to the executing part -
18 minutes ago, Dazgwny said:We all know to conquer a fear is to face it and plough straight through it. Make of that what you will
there isnt any better way? because it kind make me work agaist the ego and not with it
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around two years ago i had ego death from dmt, really low level just to experiment, it wasnt even breakthrough, i bearly saw any colors and i just had ego death, ego death is just like dying and feels like dying. you feel uncomfortable in your skin and your ego slips out of your body and you loose all agency or feels of control and you just lie there like a dead person. then i had god realization, which is just seeing god and it ended .
so overall i know that if i have ego death it is a good thing and i know i can get through it and all of it but my ego is giving me such a knee jerk reaction of just thinking about it that i cant do it.
my ego does everything just to not kill him. on the other hand my ego really wants to be able to get knowledge that is accessible through psychedelic, it is the thing it wants to do the most.
my ego is really afraid of dying after this experience and giving my hell for wanting to do it, but it giving me hell for not doing it too.
any advice to get over this fear? it is really non logical fear. i feel like basic fear advices works for this
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guys has way less friends usually which means less social support especially if they are in relationship they might even have less.
also i think for a guy getting a relationship is a struggle and they need to put lots of effort to get one so after all those effort it is gone, girls just hang out and have fun , they dont do much to get guys . also i feel like guys are active and girls are passive so girls are kinda used to things kind happen for them and guys dont have this kind of passivity
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I see a lot of posts here with an anti-Israel perspective, but I feel like they don’t represent my views or the views of many people. This topic is full of lies and is so complex that almost every video or person talking about it fails to represent what people here actually think. Many of the problems you care about are things we don’t care about, to be honest. Here, I’ll explain how I view this conflict and how I make my political decisions.
My Philosophy on Morality and Conflict
First of all, I care about all humans equally—but I care about myself more. That makes me a “devil,” like anyone else. If I didn’t prioritize myself over others, I wouldn’t survive. For example, I could give up my organs to save others, but I don’t because I value my life. You could try to convince me not to be a "devil," but you won’t convince everyone else in the world. Thinking that one side in this conflict should stop being “devils” while the other continues is unrealistic. Both Israelis and Palestinians act in their own interests, just like any country—whether it’s the states in the U.S. or European states. Here we don’t have it settled down.
Second, I prefer the least "devil-like" option. Since I know I’m flawed, I aim to minimize harm where possible. Ideally, I’d cause no harm at all, but in real life, that’s not always feasible. If I can help others without significant cost to myself, I’ll do it. However, if it comes down to a win-lose situation, I will choose to be on the winning side.
The Conflict and Possible Solutions
Ideally, we’d find a way to live together, either as one state or two states, in a way that protects Jewish interests while also addressing Palestinian interests. However, I don’t see a practical one-state solution that would make both sides happy. This leaves the two-state solution.
Here’s where the issue lies: when Palestinians had their own territory in Gaza, they used it primarily for attacks against Israel. If they truly wanted us to give them the West Bank too, they could have chosen a peaceful approach to build trust. Even if Israel has been a “devil” to them, they could have shown restraint and worked to change public opinion. Instead, they’ve continued hostility, which makes trust impossible. As a result, I’d rather be a “devil” and protect myself than be “nice” and end up in a destroyed country.
The West Bank is a different situation. Israel controls it more effectively, partly because of settlements. When we acted “nicely” and left Gaza, the outcome was disastrous. In the West Bank, settlements—despite being morally contentious—have resulted in better security. Based on this, I prefer the “devil” option of maintaining settlements because it works better for Israeli safety.
Counterarguments
Gaza and the Blockade: Some argue that we turned Gaza into a concentration camp, but that’s not accurate from my perspective. Initially, we didn’t impose a blockade; it came later due to security concerns because of wars. While our methods might be flawed, they weren’t designed to abuse Gazans but to protect Israelis. Settlements in the West Bank, too, are primarily for security reasons—not religious ones, though some people might see them that way. Usually people think to settle for religious reason is because it give them safety and this is a way to justify it then the opposite from my experience.
Israel’s Justification: Whether Israel’s existence is justified or not isn’t something I’ll debate. You could argue that I should leave, but you won’t convince the entire population. I was born here; we have a functioning country, and we’re rooted here. Whether it was right or wrong to create Israel decades ago doesn’t change the reality of our lives now. It is wayyy to late to decide on this issue and wont change anything. It is better to try to solve the problem rather having those debates.
My Conclusion
At this point, the only options are to build settlements to maintain security or kick Palestinians out. Settlements might not be the ideal solution, but I see them as the less harmful choice.
I believe the current war is justified. I don’t see another way. Palestinians suffer greatly, but I prioritize my own side because this is a win-lose situation. I’d like to see less harm to Palestinians, but I’m not an expert on warfare. If our army commits war crimes, it’s not ideal, but I’d still choose having an army over not having one even if it commites war crimes.
Who should someone support in this conflict? It depends on your values:
If you think Jews don’t need a country to protect themselves, then support the Palestinians and give Israelis alternatives to leave (though most won’t leave without good options).
If you believe Jews need a country for their safety and that Palestinians can adapt or leave safely, then support Israel.
If you believe a peaceful resolution is possible, I don’t know what to tell you—it’s beyond my understanding. But for now, as long as it’s a win-lose situation, one side has to dominate. Given the current balance of power, I think Israel is the better option because it’s more stable and has the means to cause less harm overall, even if it’s still causing harm.
Israelis are sure that if they don’t have this place there gonna be another holocaust and it is their home, most of them didn’t migrate.
It is not like south africa, the population there was very similar to the countries they came from, they didn’t had special concern like here , they didn’t had a similar common ground like jews have, there were minority in the land and not half of the people. They could migrate easily and they did not had much reasons to be scared of the black population as much as we are scared of palestinians and arabs.
They do not think they gonna die if they wont control south africa. I think jews will commit any crime possible if you take this security from them and I don’t see how it is possible to take it. Sanctions wont help a bit and wars too.
The only positive I had to say is that the reason for this behavior is security and believing that this is our home. Jews don’t have any racism complex or revenge complex and I do think jews wants the best for the palestinians but we live in win lose reality
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get customized earplugs, worth the money , i live in a really noisy environment and it works like a magic
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you have drag and ballroom and stuff like that to be connected with your feminine side and i works pretty well for me.
also getting a boyfriend hahaha , girlfriend wont help you with it, pretty much the opposite
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so i am redoing my lp again.
i found that my Zone of Genius is Innovative problem-solving and the impact that i want to make is to open people's mind.
i thought about having lp that is opening peoples mind in an innovative way but i feel like it is too general? also idk which medium i should take
i dont really know where to go because it can be biz or spirituality and so on. i have a degree in psychology and philosophy but i dont see myself as a therapist really and i wanted to be a psychologist researcher for cognition but i found that i dont really like it.
i have my adhd method that was really fun to discover and work on it so it will be usefull for others but i found that after i have it all this biz is kinda repetitive and boring for me. i am more into going into the unknown and helping people with this too. and it can be really anything, from philosophy, to biz, to theories to physics.
those are my signature strengths:
1.Curiosity and interest in the world
2.Creativity, ingenuity, and originality
3.Judgment, critical thinking, and open-mindedness
those my top 3 values:
1. joy
- To enjoy life, making bad times joyful and enhancing joyful moments. It involves prioritizing joy in various situations and finding ways to enjoy them, often following feelings over logic. You know you embody this value when joy is a predominant feeling throughout most of your day.
2. Purpose
- To have a meaningful purpose and passion in life, ideally aligning with work that you care deeply about and that has a significant impact on the world. Embodying this value means waking up each day driven to work towards a purpose that matters to you and contributes positively.
3. Truth/Reality
- To explore reality and seek truth through continuous learning and discovery. This involves dedicating substantial time each day (at least 3 hours) to uncovering new insights, especially in professional endeavors. Embodying this value means actively pursuing knowledge that expands your understanding of reality.
this is my 4th time and kinda hard for me to really put it together
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i had lots of results from this method for me and for other people .
people want to see more success stories so i decided to give it for free for more people
it is a limited time thing so make to take advantage of it
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defenetly one of the best things i did with my life. took me around 5 years to find and start working on it but still worth it
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15 hours ago, Danioover9000 said:What is your product? Please don't say it's a fidget spinner of some kind.
Can you elaborate more on your target audience, your product, and your marketing?
What are you looking for?
my product is a way to concentrate without any pills.
ADHD is not lack of dopamin and norepinephrine but a problem with channeling them into the right place at the right time. i know how to channel them into the right place at the right time.
it is a process that takes overall 6 month but after 3 month you get most of the results and after 1 month it is pretty easy to practice. i have problem only at the beginning basicly.
i dont market it now i just think about where to market it .
my target audience adults that dont want to keep using pills, preferably students but they dont have to. and they want to have a big change in their life and willing to put the time and effort for it
17 hours ago, Juan said:If you have a really genuine way to help people, you’ll find a way no matter what (instagram, youtube, amazon, etc.). If my product is legitimate helpful, why not start with family members and close friends?, they could start to add reviews. Speaking about it, had you proven that your product actually help on other people rather yourself? Idk what is the process of approving a product to the market so I’m speaking of what would I do, people would want evidence and even scientific fact check before buy that kind of product.
i have one person other than me that it helps.
i dont need any license and there is not any element in the product that is risky too. i do want scientific fact check but it is so long and so complicated that it will take a while. i can just bring the money back if it doesnt work for people.the problem is not finiding people, the problem is finding people that want to go through this process. the process is pretty hard for people in the first month, after a month it becomes pretty easy.
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so i have a great product that can help people with ADHD to concentrate and reduct all of their ADHD symptoms and work better than medication. the problem is that i dont really know where to start?
it is more for adults that dont want to keep using pills, preferably students but they dont have to. and they want to have a big change in their life. the up side is that i know that it is working for others and i have a good way to teach it.
the problem is that i dont really know where to find them. what are the ways to find them?
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true but you can make it faster. you just do breatherianism practice and then some meditation one. the energy that you get from faster will make your meditate better and then again you can fast more and so on till you are done
there are many processes, i followed elitom elamin but i stopped and now if follow jasmuheen. i prefer the slow options because they are not risky and have higher success rates. also you dont have to get to level 4. most of people are level 3 or 2 even. it is food freedom so slower is better
i think that there are other way to make material in the world. you can make any energy to any material and any material to any energy. idk how but it can work. i dont bother about theory that much, too much to deal with. just try it yourself and see, it is pretty safe.
idk because you still need shelter, internet, water to wash your body, friends, family, a car and so on.
it is certainly making phisical living more easy for sure
it is slow process, for me it is pretty good so far. also you need to move to lighter food overtime and it makes it easier.
you can start from 16/8 and move slower too or calorie restrictions and so on.
it is all depends on how much time you put into learning, the more you know the easier it gets . also safety first