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  3. Posted

    You don't want what is really pointed to, you want to understand and know truth. All of the God talk, conceptual ideas and descriptions of this, are really just distractions from death. Death is already this, total hopelessness, total let go, absolutely nothing. That sounds terrifying in the dream. The glimpses and the conceptual feeling-understandings are terrifying when there is a dream of a "real me in existence." When the "real me in existence" isn't there anymore, no one is left grasping for truth and experiences. It is more simple, and not overwhelming, because there is no one left to relate to it. That is what oneness really points to, it is impossible to understand because there is not two. The need to understand it in order for it to be okay is the dream. That need comes with a bunch of expectations about what "enlightenment" and "god" is.

    You don't get superpowers, animals won't follow you everywhere because of your enlightened aura, people won't love and adore you because of how peaceful you are. These are all expectations of the individual. It is a dream chasing a dream. When I say "this is it" it is as direct as it gets, no hidden meaning or something to get. This is it, so if this is it already, what is there to get? 

    There is no sense of urgency or a pressure to understand what was just written. It does not come from a place more deep or enlightened. It comes from nothing. There is no one here that understands this, this is totally unknowable, yet the energy of freedom puts this into words, that energy can be felt and can be liberating to the contracted energy of need. 

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    Yes. No one left to grasp or know what is happening. The collapse of duality doesn't happen, duality never happened. In order to know or describe something you have to create an artificial distance to it, separation. Nothing can be said about all there is, and there is no one to tell. Unknowable wholeness. Absolute mystery somehow appearing ordinary and grounded. No anxiety about what life is anymore, because the illusory individual that appeared separate to life was a dream. The answer to life is not answered, the questioner dies and no one is left wondering. An absolute let go into the unknowable, but no one did it, the resistance in form of a contraction created a distance to what was already "absolute let go." Nothing happened.

  8. Posted · Edited by traveler

    It sounds like you are wrapped up in concepts of what God is. God is selfless in the sense that it is without self, meaning God does not exist. Any story about God; "God is doing this, for this or that reason, for this or that outcome" are only stories. You can throw every idea you have about God in the bin, it is all food for the mind. God is a word for everything, the absolute, this. You can use any word, it doesn't matter what word you use, no word will even come close and yet the words themselves are it. 

  9. Posted

    Awake and asleep is dual, what is longed for is the end of that whole effort of trying to find a way out. Trying to awaken is just another way of saying that something is wrong, that something better than sitting on a chair is available if you focus hard enough. There is no awakening and there is no being asleep in the dream, there is just this. This isn't a thing, the end of something needing to happen is this, it can never be that. It is so simple, but psychedelic experiences can really fuel the fire of hope for the individual that some end goal is available and achievable. It doesn't need to be achieved, it doesn't need to be a certain way, the whole energy of that need can fall away and then life just happens without a need for it to be understood or manipulated. It is literally this, whatever is happening is it. Too simple and too all encompassing to get, it is literally everything, so there is no hope to find it because it can't be lost.

  10. Posted

    32 minutes ago, James123 said:

    Seek nothing is dont try, not do. Just “be”. 

    Yes, and attempts at putting what is into words continues to be made, even though it is utterly impossible and meaningless. What is pointed to is too close/direct to be put into concepts of what to do or not do. The end of the seeking is the end of the seeker, nothing changes and it doesn't have to. The end of the seeking what is already is what is already, without seeking. 

  13. Posted · Edited by traveler

    I'd say that there are some cultish dynamics on actualized.org; the whole student teacher dynamic and the praise of Leo as if he's some superior godly being. I think the cult dynamics are more reinforced from the side of the "student" than the "teacher" in this case though. Some people on here are obsessed with him. 

    The only thing that I don't particularly like about Leo is that he doesn't shut down people's illusions regarding him often enough. It is hard to say what would happen to you in such a position of fame and power. I think he handles it better than many people would in his place. That said, I'd like to see him show more signs of humbleness and honesty.

    Some spiritual teachers obviously run cults imo, Benthino Massaro is a prime example.

  14. Posted · Edited by traveler

    Check out @Nahms new vid, it applies well to your situation. 

    My take: 

    What I've noticed in myself is a tendency to focus more on others than myself. In inquiry I've discovered that I put more value on not hurting others than I do on what is best for me. If there is anything I try to practice now, it is to be selfish. Being selfish has very negative connotations in society, we are brainwashed to think that being selfish is bad, but being selfish, contrary to popular belief, does not equate to being a dick. It is self love, and if you love yourself you'll have love to spare for others. If you make it a priority to treat yourself with upmost respect, even if no one respects you like you do yourself, whatever negative opinions and thoughts they/you have about you won't resonate anymore. You'll start making decision with your best intentions in mind even if peoples feelings get hurt.  It won't be an overnight thing, but you'll realize that you'll begin to take action with more certainty and you'll be less inclined to fall into that self-conscious bubble of "what are they thinking about me."

    I don't know how much this applies to your situation, as I don't know the whole scope of it. Basically give less fucks and be more selfish and you'll find that you won't become a dick, you'll be a more confident, loving and happy version of yourself. 

    Stepping into your highest potential is what we all want for ourselves and others deep down, if everyone was less in everyone else's business and more in their own, the world would be a happier place. It is not about the end goal, it is about aligning with what feels good, and what feels good is what feels good to you. Self destructive thoughts of not being good enough will start to be less sticky and wither away once you start to recognize that you actually are good enough.

  16. Posted · Edited by traveler

    Throw out “Duality”

    Throw out “Non duallity”

    Throw out “Dream”

    Throw out “Enlightenment”

    Throw out “Awakening”

    Throw out “Now”

    Throw out “God”

    Throw out “Ego”  

    Throw out “Knowing”

    Throw out “Unknowing”

    Throw out “Seeking”

    Throw out “Stillness”

    Throw out “Isness” 

    Throw out “Infinity” 

    Throw out “Spirituality” 

    Throw out "throwing out"

     

    What is left?

    Is it knowable? 

    Is it conceptual? 

    Is there anything that could be said about it? 

    Will any word ever describe it?

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    3 minutes ago, AdamR95 said:

    ironically stopping searching for enlieghtement and letting go makes me to fall deeper in these experiences, thats why i think i reached point of no return

    I remember a sense that the bottom of the cup had fallen out and there was nothing real and solid to stand on anymore. There is a point of no return, the ground won't solidify and reappear if the bottom has fallen out, the one who tries to find that ground is fighting a losing battle. It can be overwhelming and scary for the me, but the full circle is that there never was any solid and real ground and there was no one to stand on it. 

  18. Posted

    I went through the same thing when I started "my spiritual journey." I also had all of these concepts and fears about my ego and what was going to happen. It is truly a full circle though. You wake up from a world you thought you knew into states of high consciousness and mysticality. You will find out in time that states are "not it" either. Insights from higher states can point much more directly than any spiritual teachers ever could, but there is a high possibility that "the ego" will take hold of that experience and go on a search for the next one. Liberation or enlightenment is not about states, it is the end of seeking. "Full God mode," as some likes to put it, is already what is, it isn't something that needs to be acquired. It isn't what the ego imagines it to be; an all powerfull state where the ego can bend and manipulate reality to it's liking. When the seeking stops it's like going full circle. This is exactly what was always longed for, and it is TOTALLY unknown, extraordinary ordinariness with no boundaries. 

    There is a loss of that controlling energy that wants to figure out why fear, sleepiness, demotivation and confusion is happening to me. A loss of the story about what is as a real reality. The end of trying to grasp something real and valuing things in terms of their help or hindrance to my fulfillment down the line. This is all about taking L's?

  19. Posted · Edited by traveler

    18 hours ago, Javfly33 said:

    Yeah for me it seems more like the latter.

    I don't feel like I am God. I might be a God but in my own imagination/universe.

    But I am not anybody else's god.

    So fuck it in reality is not that different. Everyone of us are separated for ever, the only nice thing is that we are Inmortal.

    But non duality? Yeah right but in our own madness. No with each other.

    No "universal God" it seems. More like alone God :(

    So I think eternal spirit is a better word.

    This is a perfect description of what is referred to as "the dream."

    I recommend dropping every notion of God, that word carries so much bagage. Just drop it, plain and simple and see how that feels.

    Have you ever heard the quote from Alan Watts which goes something like: "If you think all of the time, you have nothing else to think about but thoughts"?

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    This is it and there is no self already!

    Notice how meaningless and unimportant that phrase is to you, you probably skipped right over it because you've heard it a million times before. You probably also have an assumption/belief that you know what it means. Though that is the exact opposite to why the phrase meant nothing to you, the phrase meant nothing to you because it is pointing to nothing... and you want something! It is exactly that BANG when you stop trying to find nothing that the joke reveals itself. It is really quite humorous, but no-one laughs. 

    The search for God is another thing, that shit is endless and that is why you need more and more complicated teachings like Leo's to make you feel like you're getting closer to it, just obsessed with trying to grasp EVERYTHING, good luck.

    Why has no one arrived yet? I wonder why...

    What you're really searching for is the end of the loop. The end of yourself.

     

    PS. This is not personal.

  20. Posted

    There is no real distance or position to know what or why reality is. The real distance to reality exists only as a facet or happening in reality. Science and even spirituality are only facets of reality exploring other facets. When there is an illusion of being seperate and a part of reality a need to know what this is arises. That need to know is never really satisfied because it is based on a false claim which says that there is such a thing called reality outside of me. The mystery and awe of what is is lost in that, because this is experienced to be real and knowable. Really, there is no context to what is happening, you can't step outside of this and know it from a somehow more real position. This is the absolute appearing as whatever is happening. This is terrifying for the illusory seperate self though, because from a perspective it is total death and annihilation, the end of real existence. It isn't that dramatic when there is no one left, because there is no one left. There is no one left to hold onto this as something real and particular.

  21. Posted

    Good on you for taking action and incorporating some good habits into your life. ? Here are some recommendations you might want to consider.

    Cold showers: Feels like shit but feels great afterwards, especially after a run. It's also a great way to challenge your comfort zone.

    Skin care routine (after a cold shower!?): This one is pretty meh, the benefits aren't life changing , but it makes you feel and look more fresh in the both senses of the word.

    Get some sun everyday if possible: The sun just lifts your spirit. 

  22. Posted

    56 minutes ago, Leo Nordin said:

    Don't put me in this category, I am not looking for liberation, liberation is easy. And you cannot be afraid of the actual thing liberation but you are afraid of the idea of liberation. Therefore my thread's title is not, in a sense, accurate.

    This is not personal, there is no intention to wake anybody up because there is no one to wake up, it is merely a description or an illumination of the dream of separation. What is so free about this is that these words don't come from anywhere, they don't come from knowing, they just happen with no one doing it. So there isn't anything to be understood or gotten, these words aren't pointing to somewhere else, they just are, words. And it doesn't get more direct and absolutely meaningless than that, haha. 

    56 minutes ago, Leo Nordin said:

    Right now I am just looking to expand my consciousness by asking you @traveler why are you still in unsatisfactory duality? 

    By @traveler I'm guessing you mean "the owner of these words." Either there is a dream of someone here owning these words or there isn't, another way of putting it is, either there is an illusion of free will or there isn't. If there is an illusion of freewill, there isn't ACTUALLY free will, the illusion just makes it seem like there is. So basically, no one is in an unsatisfactory state of duality, but there can be the illusion of that. Either way, it doesn't ACTUALLY matter, because it isn't ACTUALLY happening. It matters to the illusory individual though, so it goes on a search to look for Liberation, which is never here in it's dream, it reaaaally hopes that it'll happen tomorrow though.. haha. 

    1 hour ago, Leo Nordin said:

    I also am not that familiar with the word duality

    Duality basically just means "two," non-duality mean "not-two."

     

    "in my country you are a fucking weird delusional weird idiot man if you communicate this way." LMAO.

     

    1 hour ago, Leo Nordin said:

    If I understand rightly. You cannot function well in this world without duality, ending duality means death, or is there actually any duality to begin with. I don't quite get what duality means. I wouldn't call any state of being oneness except sleep or perhaps some deep meditation. 

    There is no duality to begin with, there is not even a beginning. Believing you can't function in this world without duality is just the individual having no idea what this actually points too. The individual is certain that it is real and that it is running the show, it thinks it makes everything happen and nothing will happen without it doing it. It doesn't do anything already, it is illusory, it just takes ownership of everything and says "yeah I did that." 8-) It is so unreal already, that when it falls away, it never were. 

  23. Posted

    How can you ever fit the whole of everything into a word? Liberation is being liberated from the dream that "Liberation" has any meaning whatsoever; that "Liberation" is pointing to something else than this. The "me" is looking for the end of seperation, using dualistic tools. You1 looking for Liberation2 is the unsatisfactory duality you are trying to overcome. You're looking for the end of looking ? it's a loopy poopy

  24. Posted

    What is longed for is more simple than you can imagine. It is exactly the claim that "you" have to be more aware or focus more on eating, showering or taking a shit that creates separation and dissatisfaction. The "me" tries to take as much in as possible of "the now," it is the exact same energy as looking for enlightenment "out there." Nothing is required for this to be what it is, no knowing of it is required, no focus is required, no awareness is required. It is not even required to recognize that nothing is required. This leaves no position left for you to stand, what is left is what already were, nothing changes because the illusion of something needing to change was the dream. You don't end up somewhere in a mystical cloud, that is the belief the individual has in it's dream. This is already TOTALLY unknown, and no one knows that.