Leo Gura

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  1. 1 hour ago, Zen LaCroix said:

    When you go in the hall there's like 30 guys there and Owen pitching the bootcamp SPEAKING IN THE MOST INTENSE AND AGGRESSIVE FASHION YOU'VE EVER SEEN A HUMAN BEING SPEAK IN! It's probably very intimidating for some guys. He's completely psychologically dominating most of the guys there. And you've probably never in your life ever seen a human being speak with as much conviction and intensity as he does when selling bootcamps. It's EXTREME!

    Yeah, he is shmeless about it. He's rationalized it to himself in his mind in the same way he has rationalized that he is God's gift to women, when in fact most women who sleep with him will regret it.

    That's how narcissist works.


  2. 39 minutes ago, Nemra said:

    @Leo Gura, if they are all mind-shattering in their own way, then I guess I must pick the one that is easily available and cost-effective per mg.

    Have you tried the DiPT, DET, DPT or DALT versions of 4-HO and 4-AcO?

    I have tried most of those. They tend to blur together in my memory so I can't give a clear difference between them, and it would be different for your brain anyway.

    -MPT, -McPT, and -MIPT tend to be preferable to me.


  3. 3 hours ago, koops said:

    Thats my question. My guess is that is death. You said one of these days that you can shoot yourself in the head and even then you will be more conscious (of something like that).
    So my point is: whats the phenomenology of that? Pure Nothingness? Just like when we sleep? But then, is that being conscious?

    I dont get how can you be conscious when there is nothing.

    Does it makes sense?

    Nothing IS Consciousness. That's what you are missing.

    But also, once you are free of the human dream other higher dreams become possible.

    Attachment to the human dream precludes more advanced dreams.


  4. 5 minutes ago, Nemra said:

    @Leo Gura, are they too different from each other? Or are they more or less the same as long as you adjust the dosage?

    I don't remember the precise differences but they can very different. Just depends.

    You can't treat then as the same just because the chemical letters are similar.

    One letter can make a big difference.


  5. 1 hour ago, Hardkill said:

    So, then how are moderate/establishment Democrats going to be able to fix their messaging problem or win in future elections if they can't sound "too authentic", but at the same time have an authenticity problem, which is a big part of why Harris and the Democrats lost in 2024?

    That's the tricky balancing act of politics. You have to bullshit the public but do it in a way that they perceive as "authentic". Because if you are really authentic you will not get elected because society is built on lies.

    See, Trump mastered the art of spewing pure bullshit but making half the country think he's being authentic. That's why Trump won. The problem with Dems is that their bullshit fails to come across as convincing. Trump got away with it because he told the stupidest half of the populace exactly what their reptile brain wanted to hear.

    It is much easier to bullshit people when your bullshit feeds their basest reptile instincts. Then they ignore that it's bullshit.


  6. 16 minutes ago, bazera said:

    and so far my answer is to be extra careful on this life altering decisions like marriage, having kids, having huge depth, settling down in wrong place, having an unhealthy lifestyle due to chosen profession, etc.

    Of course these are huge decisions which severely limit and shape your whole life.

    You mus be very intelligent in making these decisions, which is where most people screw up.


  7. Authenticity in the domain of politics is a very loaded and tricky notion. No politician is allowed to be truly authentic, otherwise they would never get elected and the public would turn on them.

    Politics is not a domain for authenticity, honesty, and truth because the entire political system is built on lies, fantasies, and corruption.

    Look at cases where politicians accidentally let slip something truly honest. They are crucified for it by their political opponents. You can't be truthful in politics because your political opponents will immediately weaponize it against you to kick you out of power.


  8. 13 minutes ago, Eskilon said:

    If a practioner attain this state, why does he comeback?

    Does "he" have a choice? Or this is one of the mysteries of consciousness that has no answers?

    That pure formlessness is not a permanent state since you are alive. That's what being alive means: you have all sorts of forms happening to you.

    You are alive. To be alive is to be dreaming. To be alive is to be committed to dreaming. Even "enlightened" people are dreaming.


  9. 9 hours ago, Alexop said:

    By the way Leo! How much of your happiness and development potential gets affected by the fact that you can't find the exact woman you wish having?

    There is some suffering from not finding the right woman. But also that suffering is self-created. Most of that suffering comes from buying into the idea that you need a woman.

    It much depends on what you want out of life. Obviously if you want a family, if you want socialization, if you are extroverted, then you will suffer more from not having those things. This depends on your personality type.

    9 hours ago, bazera said:

    @Leo Gura You also stopped dating? If not, how do you fit that into the kind of lifestyle you describe?

    I am not actively dating, but if it lands in my lap I will not say no.

    I don't invest time into pursuing women at this point. This of course means I barely get women. But I might invest time into that in the future. My prioritizes change every year. Right now women are not my priority.

    The reason I don't invest time in pursuing women now is because it holds less meaning for me than it used to. It's very obvious to me that no woman will ever satisfy me. I've sort of deconstructed the fantasy/illusion of women. It is clear that they are just cheese in a rat maze.

    8 hours ago, Miguel1 said:

    Yeah, I’m also curious to hear how you is your current relationship with intimate relationships, Leo?

    Would free me up a lot if I was able to let them go, but cant say I am anywhere close.

    I still desire them, but I am also disillusioned with them. I am not opposed to relationships but I also don't spend much time dreaming for them.

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    None of this is to say you guys should copy me. I encourage you all to go burn through your karma and pursue your natural desires until you exhaust them. Don't try to act like a monk when you are full of unsatisfied desires. Being a monk should come organically, not be forced. Monk mode comes organically later in life once you've played out all the human games.


  10. 51 minutes ago, Tristan12 said:

    In formless, post-physical-death unity with God, there is of course still endless love and bliss and all of that, like existing in an endless orgasm, right? It’s not like going to sleep where there is literally no experience at all?

    It depends. Both possibilities exist. If you go into the formlessness very deeply eventually you will reach a point of complete annihilation where there is not even bliss, love, orgasm, or anything -- just a total blank. It is such a high degree of Unity that you can't even call it Unity. It is so united that it has no distinct qualities. It is Unity but you cannot call or think it "Unity". It is Love but it is a Love too deep to even be called "Love".

    Just to think of reality as "Love" or "Unity" already requires a degree of separation and form.

    If you have complete formlessness you cannot even regard it as "formless", because "formless" is a form.

    However, you can also be conscious of formlessness while being in a state of form. You can think formlessness. You can comprehend it as Love.

    So there are multiple ways here. The common mistake is to try to reduce it to just one way. That's the error of the Buddhists.


  11. 8 minutes ago, integral said:

    I'm not asking for a rigid map, im saying if vertical and horizontal growth isn't how you particularly view it from your paradigm. How would you view it?

    What do you mean by "it"?

    The most advanced understanding of Consciousness cannot be modeled. Human growth can be somewhat modeled and that's what Wilber has done.

    I am at a point in my understanding that I don't use models to understand Consciousness.


  12. 6 hours ago, integral said:

    If you surpassed Ken Wilbur's model what is the better way of mapping it?

    Don't give me the answer that there is no map or something like that. I'm asking specifically where the model breaks down and how you would map it based on your models. lol

    You are asking for something impossible.

    Ken Wilber's insistence on mapping and modeling eventually becomes the biggest weakness in his work.


  13. 6 hours ago, Vibes said:

    @Leo Gura

    "God is Good and Love"

    Should be banned. Most people understand love one way, so you should stop using that word and find another one.

    Edit: If it is true, that all this misery and cruelty is love, then you should actually use the word. Otherwise, it wouldn't be the truth...

    No, God is Good and God is Love.

    People are wrong and God is right.


  14. 16 minutes ago, Haloman said:

     I also can't wrap my mind about it why there is a possibility of that kind of horror.

    Because that's what lower consciousness creates. And God isn't just high consciousness, its the entire gamut of Consciousness.

    God holds space for all lower forms of consciousness.

    The lower the consciousness the more sadistic it is. Sadism is part of Consciousness.


  15. 15 minutes ago, Lyubov said:

    The thing is though that's usually a conscious and natural choice that is made with ease after someone has let go of a lot of the beliefs that tie them to society for things like approval, validation, etc. So in a sense it's sort of a form of transcendence. It's not them being edgy or trying to be above society. I don't think the guys here who are posting in the dating sub forum should be thinking about this. 

    Obviously the guys in the dating subforum should not be thinking about this.

    But being a monk is about being above society. The popular concepts of monks has been so watered down and misunderstood. Why do monks become monks? Because they finally realize that mainstream society is a madhouse of perverts and fools.

    But see, mainstream culture never tells you this. It acts as though monks are just these kinds, nice guys so never judge. No! Monks judge that you are totally full of shit and you are diseased perverts.

    But see, mainstream culture can never admit this about itself.

    Christians are so stupid they don't even understand that Jesus was a monk, why? Because he understood that the lifestyle of religous people is a disease.

    When you become deeply conscious you realize that mainstream society is a cancer.


  16. 1 hour ago, Nivsch said:

    @Leo Gura I think Israel should exist aside a Palestinian state too. And like me many more think that. Why not both? 

    But you compartmentalize in your mind the existence of your state from the ethnic cleansing needed to create it and also sustain it.

    Why noth both? Because the injustice from the taking of the land has created a hatred for you that will not die and will not give you peace in your nation.

    You expect the taking of the land to just be forgiven and forgotten, but that's not how humans work.

    Not to even mention that your top political leadership wants even more land and they run the show, not you.