Zeolite Nanoparticles for Heavy Metal Detox?

[mmKay]

In case you missed Leo's blog post:

https://www.actualized.org/insights/zeolite-nanoparticles-for-detox

 

@The0Self Thoughts on this? How small would the particles have to be to be effective? How strong is it's bond with the Heavy metals? Any worries about It potentially absorbing nutrients? What about It actually being poluted itself? What would the dosage schedule and half life be?

I was about to PM you but I feel It may turn into a fruitful post.

Andy Cutler did not recommend Zeolites as far as I remember because of lack research in his times and he did not do provoked urine split testing as he belived large doses of chelators were harmful ( as far as I know)

Besides Leo's links, I found this place to be resourceful, as in the product and FAQ section.

https://thegoodinside.com/shop/product/pure-body-extra-strengt

 

im a about to guinea pig this one in a few days: https://amzn.to/3tBCelD

 

edit : particle size for this cheaper powder is 132000 to 2000 nanometers.  The spray is 10 to 250 nanometers. I'll give It a try regardless . Eventually I'll try the spay as well.

Edited December 13, 2023 by mmKay

[mmKay]

@Leo Gura ACZ spray contains silver for some reason

[mmKay]

I have found this website offering powdered zeolite Nanoparticles, possibly cheaper than the notoriously expensive sprays

https://www.nanochemazone.com/product/zeolite-nanopowder/

I've sent them an email to inquire about it's capacities for human use with the purpose of heavy metal detox.

I doubt this is going anywhere for numerous reasons but still sharing . 

Currently testing https://amzn.to/3tBCelD on its own, I'll report more accurately in two months 

Edited December 17, 2023 by mmKay

[mmKay]

On 17/12/2023 at 2:25 PM, mmKay said:

I have found this website offering powdered zeolite Nanoparticles, possibly cheaper than the notoriously expensive sprays

https://www.nanochemazone.com/product/zeolite-nanopowder/

I've sent them an email to inquire about it's capacities for human use with the purpose of heavy metal detox.

I doubt this is going anywhere for numerous reasons but still sharing . 

 

They replied. Not for human or animal consumption.

[mmKay]

On 13/12/2023 at 5:45 PM, mmKay said:

@Leo Gura ACZ spray contains silver for some reason

The company simply dismissed my concerns by linking to studies on the health benefits of their other product which is basically just silver 

ACC protocol specifically says NO silver whatsoever . "It says in you indefinitely"

I think you can eventually turn blue 

Edited December 28, 2023 by mmKay

[mmKay]

I also did try the zeolite powder for a week. You're supposed to take it for two months but it makes you thirsty AF. I was drinking up to 5 liters per day! And peeing that much consequently. So I couldn't keep up and stopped it for now. Hard to claim any mental gains for now but I will use it in between acc rounds ( to test if it eases redistribution symptoms) or when I'm having a naughty meal

Overdose on zeolite powder is supposed not to be a thing. It does not cross blood brain barrier apparently but is supposed to chelate the blood at an ion exchange level ( their answer to my question)

Edit : I also read the 60 page zeolite book they emailed while answering my questions . Thing is the half life is "4-6 hours " and they recommend to dose twice per day... So the lack of science makes this process pretty sloppy and I can't tell if the negative symptoms I was having for the entire week were detox side effects, lack of enough support in the form of supplements, redistribution because of improper redosing schedule or simply dehydration as it makes you comically thirsty and you don't drink for 6+ hours while you sleep...

So that's that redneck science

I was pretty miserable for that week mostly in the mornings

 

Edited December 28, 2023 by mmKay

[Cocolove]

Yea yea old thread but in Andy Cutlers book he says zeolite won't chelate any heavy metals>>???? anyone know why

[Leo Gura]

11 minutes ago, Cocolove said:

Yea yea old thread but in Andy Cutlers book he says zeolite won't chelate any heavy metals>>???? anyone know why

Regular zeolite won't chelate because it doesn't enter the bloodstream or brain, it's localized to the gut.

Nano-particle zeolite is another animal that enters your bloodstream. At least that's the theory.

Andy Cutler did not evaluate nano-particle zeolite.

Chelating heavy metals requires going beyond the gut. Ideally the chelator needs to pass the blood-brain barrier. Very few chemicals can do that.

Edited July 3 by Leo Gura

[TimStr]

@Leo Gura

3 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Regular zeolite won't chelate because it doesn't enter the bloodstream or brain, it's localized to the gut.

Nano-particle zeolite is another animal that enters your bloodstream. At least that's the theory.

My concern with nano-particles is this: If they are able enter the bloodstream and potentially other organs like my brain, how can I be sure, that they will ever get out of my system again? 

What guarantees, that those partlicles, don't just stay in my body, making any attempt to detox heavy metals with them obsolete?

Edited July 3 by TimStr

[Cocolove]

@TimStr Well once they bond to the metal they're bigger and should come out easier.

 

Yea I don't see the appeal compared to if ALA and stuff t have more of an effective track record.

Certainly these chemicals all have some dangers, but the risk/benefit is very clear if you are heavy metal toxic.


Personally I just have a couple symptoms and have no idea if my main immune system condition is related to heavy metals, so its hard to tell if chelating is really worth it. I might try a couple rounds to see how I feel.

I know Leo recommends a challenge test but Cutler really recommends against it due to redistribution, especially if you haven't done a couple rounds first. And he says you can usually tell by how the detox makes you feel if its doing anything or not. Plus we all must have some level of mercury.