UFOs Are Here

[integral]

The problem with all of this evidence is it's coming from stage blue and a lot of military-oriented men which my radar screams "nothing they say can be trusted".

The stage blue testimonies are like "I saw Jesus" testimonies.

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[Leo Gura]

11 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

Seems that in 1998 he initially predicted a nuclear attack on New York between 1999 and 2001.

Yeah, I can't take such talk seriously.

It is too sloppy and irresponsible.

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[Leo Gura]

18 minutes ago, integral said:

If we organize all the evidence in this thread, what really stands out above everything else as the final nail in the coffin?

Read the UFO books from my book list.

I also posted a lot good data on my blog years ago. Search for that.

There is no one smoking gun, it's the holistic picture given all the data.

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[Wilhelm44]

4 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Yeah, I can't take such talk seriously.

It is too sloppy and irresponsible.

Never the less he predicted something big was going to hit New York between 1999 and 2001.

[Cubbage]

https://www.actualized.org/insights/yes-ufos-are-a-thing

I believe this is the post Leo was referring to @integral

[Cubbage]

2 hours ago, Wilhelm44 said:

The aliens need to show themselves already, people are getting impatient lol

Impatience is a hallmark of an immature mind, so the less patient we get, the further off contact becomes. 

We really are collectively, a species locked in spiritual infancy. Open contact is so far off it's not even worth talking about imo.

[Leo Gura]

Aliens told me they ain't coming, too many rapists around.

"First fix your rapist problem, then we'll consider a visit."

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[oOo]

Only those totally non-biased can accept the truth with true eyes.

Go to the 1 min mark and watch her (right) eyes - www.foxnews.com/video/4850617529001 (original FoxNews website)

They're here.

[integral]

1 hour ago, Cubbage said:

https://www.actualized.org/insights/yes-ufos-are-a-thing

I believe this is the post Leo was referring to @integral

Perfect, thank you.

The biggest issue is this whole body of UFO evidence is indistinguishable from confirmation bias and conspiracy theory.

I'm not saying it isn't happening. I'm saying it's indistinguishable. My intuition is not picking up on any patterns that can help me distinguish this.

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[Leo Gura]

13 minutes ago, integral said:

I'm not saying it isn't happening. I'm saying it's indistinguishable. My intuition is not picking up on any patterns that can help me distinguish this.

Lol. Dude.

Yes! It's a conspiracy theory! There are always exceptions. The point is not do stupid conspiracies, which is most of them.

It doesn't matter how many conspiracy theories are true. Conspiracy theories are still stupid. The entire field is full of total perverts.

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[Natasha Tori Maru]

Informed criticism requires understanding the relevant evidence and arguments.

 

[integral]

1 hour ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

Informed criticism requires understanding the relevant evidence and arguments.

After understanding the evidence and arguments, what position are you taking?

 

2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Lol. Dude.

Yes! It's a conspiracy theory! There are always exceptions. The point is not do stupid conspiracies, which is most of them.

It doesn't matter how many conspiracy theories are true. Conspiracy theories are still stupid. The entire field is full of total perverts.

Exactly. But then the 9 out of 10 figure that you gave me is coming from seeing past this, and that throughout all of human history people are constantly reporting on aliens independently, so there must be something to it. 🧛

But they also independently throughout history reported on seeing dead relatives, ghosts, and every supernatural phenomenon.

The problem is people that report on ghosts are always at pre-rational stages. They tend to be very religious. And then when you get to orange, you stop seeing ghosts. And then when you get to green, you see auras everywhere, and energy fields. And then when you get to yellow, you stop seeing energy fields.

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[Natasha Tori Maru]

6 minutes ago, integral said:

After understanding the evidence and arguments, what position are you taking?

What question explicitly? Do UAP exist? NHI? Are they ours? etc

[integral]

27 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

What question explicitly? Do UAP exist? NHI? Are they ours? etc

Whichever of those you feel is most likely true and why?

[Natasha Tori Maru]

14 minutes ago, integral said:

Whichever of those you feel is most likely true and why?

NHI - I won't speak to this. 

UAP - exist. They are extensively tracked by governments & NASA (noting NASA is a government agency, just one many inherently trust more, although they have no reason to). Governments have these craft. Aerial, subsea, or space-based craft that cannot be immediately identified or explained by standard analysis.

You need to concentrate on the bolded part when researching.