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[NewKidOnTheBlock]

Just eat what the US food pyramide tells you to eat basically, but without the top 2 stages (junk food sugary shit and various vegetable oils) and in a reverse order. While consuming the most high quality meat and animal products and consuming them as raw as you're willing to risk it (the more you cook them, the more nutrients you'll destroy and the more carcinogens you'll create but at the same time if you don't cook them at all you'll risk exposing yourself to some life threatening ilnesses so it is a carefull trade off you have to make). Any recipes that would abide by these principles are basically perfect. If you can visualize the pyramide you'll know how I meant it

[Princess Arabia]

5 minutes ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

Just eat what the US food pyramide tells you to eat basically, but without the top 2 stages (junk food sugary shit and various vegetable oils) and in a reverse order. While consuming the most high quality meat and animal products and consuming them as raw as you're willing to risk it (the more you cook them, the more nutrients you'll destroy and the more carcinogens you'll create but at the same time if you don't cook them at all you'll risk exposing yourself to some life threatening ilnesses so it is a carefull trade off you have to make). Any recipes that would abide by these principles are basically perfect. If you can visualize the pyramide you'll know how I meant it

 

Please stop trusting the FDA.

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

@Princess Arabia The pyramid is fine like I said, you just have to take out top 2 layers and reverse it, eating mostly meat and animal products, then carbohydrates (important energy source and somewhat important for the brain), and then lastly vegetables.

The pyramide could be a scam but that's how most people throught history (since the start of civilization) were eating, while meat was reserved for the rich. The wheat and vegetables were for the slaves. That's how it always was. It's the only way to sustain the population we have/had so in a way it's completely understandable but if you individually still have the choice to eat meat then you should probably do so. But that's just my opinion.

[Princess Arabia]

29 minutes ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

@Princess Arabia The pyramid is fine like I said, you just have to take out top 2 layers and reverse it, eating mostly meat and animal products, then carbohydrates (important energy source and somewhat important for the brain), and then lastly vegetables.

The pyramide could be a scam but that's how most people throught history (since the start of civilization) were eating, while meat was reserved for the rich. The wheat and vegetables were for the slaves. That's how it always was. It's the only way to sustain the population we have/had so in a way it's completely understandable but if you individually still have the choice to eat meat then you should probably do so. But that's just my opinion.

ok

[Princess Arabia]

25 minutes ago, Michael569 said:

I don't mean to intrude as this isn't my thread

No such thing. This thread isn't owned by anyone. As long as the post or comment is related, anyone can comment or post and such is always welcomed.

[Sugarcoat]

I like what Simon Hill, nutritionist, said, something along the lines of “if we can’t trust science to tell us what the optimal diet is then why would we trust a person on social media to do it” it really speaks to this thing of who we should listen to.

From what I’ve heard from him and major dietary guidelines, the science says a plant predominant diet is proven to be optimal and lessen disease risk especially heart disease

Edited December 27, 2024 by Sugarcoat

[Schizophonia]

10 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

I like what Simon Hill, nutritionist, said, something along the lines of “if we can’t trust science to tell us what the optimal diet is then why would we trust a person on social media to do it” it really speaks to this thing of who we should listen to.

From what I’ve heard from him and major dietary guidelines, the science says a plant predominant diet is proven to be optimal and lessen disease risk especially heart disease

Well "science" gave me poor energy/strength, massive brain fog, gas, and severe colon pain.

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

@Sugarcoat

6 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

and lessen disease risk especially heart disease

So you're implying that meat causes heart dissease. Yes, the shit meat products we're consuming today do cause heart dissease because they are cooked on vegetable oils, riddled with preservatives and it's gained from largely unhealthy animals from these massive animal farms. Show me a study of people eating actually good quality meat that's at least semi raw so it conserves most of the nutrients that concludes people get heart dissease from consuming such meat. I'll wait.

[Sugarcoat]

2 minutes ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

@Sugarcoat

So you're implying that meat causes heart dissease. Yes, the shit meat products we're consuming today do cause heart dissease because they are cooked on vegetable oils, riddled with preservatives and it's gained from largely unhealthy animals from these massive animal farms. Show me a study of people eating actually good quality meat that's at least semi raw so it conserves most of the nutrients that concludes people get heart dissease from consuming such meat. I'll wait.

From what I’ve heard the science says excess saturated fat makes cholesterol higher and that increases risk for heart disease. So that saturated fat could come from meat yea, regardless of its quality . It’s about the quantity you eat

Edited December 27, 2024 by Sugarcoat

[Sugarcoat]

3 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

Well "science" gave me poor energy/strength, massive brain fog, gas, and severe colon pain.

When you ate plant predominant? 

[Schizophonia]

10 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

When you ate plant predominant? 

Yes.

The problem is not even the vegetables, the vegetables are fine, the problem came mainly from the starches: beans, potatoes, pseudo-cereals, whole grains, unripe bananas etc.

If I let myself go to my instinct, I arrive on a kind of diet based on pork, chicken, fish, oysters, goat or sheep dairy products, eggs, green vegetables, fake vegetables (onion, garlic, carrots, tomato...) olive oil/rapeseed/sunflower/coconut, nuts seeds and puree (tahini, peanut butter...), and white rice/pastas.

But i've already said you that i think.

Edited December 27, 2024 by Schizophonia

[Sugarcoat]

13 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

Yes.

The problem is not even the vegetables, the vegetables are fine, the problem came mainly from the starches: beans, potatoes, pseudo-cereals, whole grains, unripe bananas etc.

If I let myself go to my instinct, I arrive on a kind of diet based on pork, chicken, fish, oysters, goat or sheep dairy products, eggs, green vegetables, fake vegetables (onion, garlic, carrots, tomato...) olive oil/rapeseed/sunflower/coconut, nuts seeds and puree (tahini, peanut butter...), and white rice/pastas.

But i've already said you that i think.

I don’t know enough to say whether I agree or not regarding the starches being a problem. My first instinct was to say to whether you have some sensitivities and problems with your gut if you react so badly to them. Like ibs or something. So maybe the problem isn’t the starches but rather that you have a sensitive gut. I don’t know. The diet you mentioned btw doesn’t sound too bad, depends on in what ratios you eat the foods.

Edited December 27, 2024 by Sugarcoat

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

27 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

From what I’ve heard the science says excess saturated fat makes cholesterol higher and that increases risk for heart disease. So that saturated fat could come from meat yea, regardless of its quality . It’s about the quantity you eat

That is way too simplistic. Cholesterol being the #1 thing that's bad for you was a theory propagated (and was originated) in the previous century, but as it turns out it's actually the sugar, or the complex carbohydrates that's mostly responsible for heart dissease. Mostly from eating junk. Cholesterol is actually good for you and necessary for your survival. And there's no way a good healthy meat and animal products would increase it to such a degree to which it would be a problem. And if it can, again - show me the proof. There's no actual study observing effects of this kind of diet.

Plant based diet without meat or animal products lacks at least 5-6 micronutrients and that's just the bare minimum, it likely lacks more. Artificial supplementation is not enough

[Sugarcoat]

6 minutes ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

That is way too simplistic. Cholesterol being the #1 thing that's bad for you was a theory propagated (and was originated) in the previous century, but as it turns out it's actually the sugar, or the complex carbohydrates that's mostly responsible for heart dissease. Mostly from eating junk. Cholesterol is actually good for you and necessary for your survival. And there's no way a good healthy meat and animal products would increase it to such a degree to which it would be a problem. And if it can, again - show me the proof. There's no actual study observing effects of this kind of diet.

Plant based diet without meat or animal products lacks at least 5-6 micronutrients and that's just the bare minimum, it likely lacks more. Artificial supplementation is not enough

I didn’t say cholesterol in food was a problem, but that too much saturated fat is. That too much saturated fat (which exists in animal products mainly) raises the bad cholesterol  in the body and increases risk of heart disease. It doesn’t mean saturated fat is bad altogether but that it’s bad in excess amounts. So I’m not advocating for a fully plant based diet, but a plant dominant one. Which most science advocates too.

”Show me the proof” I’m no expert in this so I don’t have specific studies I’ve read but I’m basing my claims on the guidelines and some people I follow and find credible. I’m always trying to be open though and learn more

How are complex carbs causing heart disease? Excess sugar I can see how that’s unhealthy but complex carbs?

[Schizophonia]

52 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

I don’t know enough to say whether I agree or not regarding the starches being a problem. My first instinct was to say to whether you have some sensitivities and problems with your gut if you react so badly to them. Like ibs or something. So maybe the problem isn’t the starches but rather that you have a sensitive gut. I don’t know. The diet you mentioned btw doesn’t sound too bad, depends on in what ratios you eat the foods.

Thanks my future sexy nutritionist.

 

Everyone without exception will end up with problems if they eat too much of certain fibers, there are no beans or potatoes in nature. I trusted my senses, every time i trusted my senses i no longer had problems; And contrary to what one might imagine the senses are not pro junk food : Refined, poor quality, non-nutritious products will in fact be disappointing and if you contemplate enough, with enough delicacy, you will realize that it is limiting beliefs that trigger junk food compulsions, much more than pleasure. If you look at happy people, not particularly neurotic, they always choose refined, balanced food, rather than more "dirty" food.

35 minutes ago, Michael569 said:

Am i wrong or have you been playing around with your diet?

Hi Michael.

I just eat what i want, i don’t have the wish to follow a specific diet.

35 minutes ago, Michael569 said:

 

Seems much closer to a nicely balanced approach in concordance with the guidelines compared to our last conversation:). I'm (pleasantly) surprised to see you include PUFA -rich oils which I recall you opposed mechanistically. 
 

Ahah, it’s essentially to tease you.

I was first interested in ray peat but since i don't like drinking milk or eating too much sugar i found it to be of no interest.

 

Animal fats are nice to eat but if i follow my instincts if eat too much something feels wrong, and there are concrete signs that are not orthorexia such as additional difficulty digesting them, especially butter and tallow.

Sunflower oil in France is almost only found in "mufa rich" form and canola oil is a little richer in pufa but with a good o3/06 ratio. The only oils really rich in o6 are weird oils like corn or soybean oil. I allow myself some tahini because it is very good.

My diet is basically close to what someone from the Middle East (Israel, Lebanon, Türkiye, etc.) would eat lol.

 

35 minutes ago, Michael569 said:

Either way, seems like you're heading the right way 😉 that's good.

Thank you professor. 
 

Last step before breatharianism. 

[M A J I]

Read Return to the Brain of Eden: Restoring the Connection between Neurochemistry and Consciousness and EdenBound: Healing Disease with Fruit and Other Plants. The two books go into all that you need to know about the natural human diet and lifestyle, and how we've been mislead our whole lives so humans do not tap into their full potential and break-free from the enslavement.

Its really common sense, unfortunately most people are so heavily brainwashed that the disorder needs to be corrected to be able to see clearly and make the connections. Then again, only when you purify your vessel and experience what it is to feel truly alive and sober, it all starts to make sense. Most people don't even realize, even many plant-based eaters who rely heavily on cooked foods, grains, flour and processed junk, that they are far from being truly sober and what being a truly alive human actually feels like. its a lot of work to regenerate the body but its totally worth it when you do. You can experiment with yourself, just for a few weeks try live on purely tropical and organic fruit, you will feel worlds better than any other diet, and that's because its in your DNA and biology. We evolved this way for far longer than we evolved with meat, grains and vegetables.

Edited December 28, 2024 by M A J I

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

Please do not listen to that guy. Most fruits contain nothing but sugar, some contain a few petty vitamins but it's not like you wouldn't be able to get them from other sources. This is the type of diet you can expect to die on the quickest (followed by a more general vegan diet of course)

[M A J I]

2 hours ago, Michael569 said:

For someone pretending to be above the common herd of mortals, notice how much judgement you pass onto others. A truly loving person does not talk like that.

Most people this..

Most people that

Most people that and this..

What does "purify your vessel" even mean. 

At least start offering something practical for once. Record bunch of videos. Show us the way then. Start a channel and demonstrate what you talk of. 

I.mean record yourself doing 20 effortless pullups or run a mile under 4 minutes or i dunno, show us the divine health you talk of. Hammer 100 pushups without a break... whatever 

Otherwise eating Durians and Mangos for most of us in January is completely unattainable.W

e've had people like that here many times over and over.  Acidity, toxicity, alkaline fruit diets. This forum has seen it all. 

Perhaps its you who need to mature to something most would consider attainable.

And yes, i mostly understand what you talk of (to some degree).

I followed Robert Morse and John Rose, i almost became Robert's practitioner.

I bought the herbs, the teas, the tinctures and did a 3 week grape cleanse with his protocol, cost me tons of money... Result was the worst I've ever felt. Only abandoning all this felt like an actual growth.

And for the love of god, get over your superiority complex please. 

Trigger trigger chicken dinner Your perception is not my assignment. I speak what I feel and see. Love is not always confined to kindness and goodness. The Truth can also be harsh, brutal and sharp as a razer.

I have made many videos and posts, over 100,000 posts all over the internet and made 500+ videos. Its all there but that is not the point, the point is to Know Thyself and take responsibility to actually put the practice in to see the results.

Its very simple, purify your vessel is just that, fasting, eating mostly organic fruit and fresh living foods, cleansing the system long term, taking purifying herbs, following nature and natural therapies, exercise, grounding, sunshine, sweating, cold-therapies, plant medicines, purging... it isn't rocket science, all the information is out there, I don't have to answer every single person over and over again with the same thing, they need to get out of their comfort zones and grow up and DO THE WORK.

Study the books I mentioned above, read them, Read Mucus-less diet healing system by Professor Arnold Ehret, Read Mans higher consciousness byt Hilton Hotema, Read the Eden books I mentioned above. Apply the teachings, integrate, practice with your own body, experiment, see for yourself. I am not here to spoon feed you.

You felt terrible because its called DE-TOX. Imagine all the toxins stored up in your system for decades all coming out at once, it can be extremely taxing on the body and nervous system, if you were educated enough you would know you need to TRANSITION, and gradually cut things out. I gradually cut out meat and diary and processed foods after a year or two, went raw vegan for 6 - 12 months, then I cut out fats/nuts, then greens and vegetables then after fruit-only for a little while I went mono-fruit watermelon or grape or orange for a little while then straight into 9 day water fast then 5 day dry fast, and all at the same time I was spending time in nature, in a supportive environment, no computer or phone use, meditation and yoga, books and resting most of the time, connecting to god. Even then there is more purifying to be done, ultimately we need a clean environment / world.

When done successfully, this changes the entire DNA from carbon to silicate-matrix 5th strand DNA activation or 5D body. Since then I have been able to do things I couldn't do before and harness elemental powers and abilities I only could access as a young child, and although I have drifted much from such a pure path and got mixed up with other things, and may not be the best example now. This is in a nutshell how to start to purify your vessel and return to human-nature / order.

Healing to your pristine state does not happen overnight, its a long process, just think about how long you ate and lived the wrong way. Maybe if you went in the forrest and dry fasted for 40 days in a cave it could be quicker, but 99.99999999% of people will not be able to do that, they would literally die. Its not a superiority complex, rather a common truth. Most people are still animal, not my issue, I state what I see.

 

 

Edited December 28, 2024 by M A J I

[M A J I]

5 hours ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

Please do not listen to that guy. Most fruits contain nothing but sugar, some contain a few petty vitamins but it's not like you wouldn't be able to get them from other sources. This is the type of diet you can expect to die on the quickest (followed by a more general vegan diet of course)

Why the fear? Fear it might be true? why not allow people to decide for themselves. Fruits contain nothing but sugar? This is where I know you know close to nothing about health, nutrition, science, nature and biology.

Fruit is loaded of phytochemicals, enzymes, amino-acids, vitamins, minerals and several other beneficial compounds rarely found in other food or cooked food that are destroyed in the process of cooking or de-naturing foods. Fruit is also H302 (structured / living) water full of (information) your cells need to function at their best. All "live" foods also contain (biophotons) light-particles which contain information via cosmic radiation, light-codes for DNA upgrades and enzymes which are required for the utilization of the said foods nutrients so the body doesn't have to prematurely age and over-work itself and produce them itself. Anytime you cook / denature foods you destroy all enzymes and biophotons AKA (LIFE) in the food so you are consuming (dead-nutrition), dense-matter. Fruit is the only food that becomes worse if you cook or flavour it, because its already perfected for you as GOD / Nature (Infinite Intelligence) created. Meat doesn't grow on trees.

https://www.paulinaslifestyle.com/post/life-energy-of-food-biophotons-and-angstrom-units

https://domesticgeekgirl.com/uncategorized/eating-sunlight-all-about-biophotons-in-raw-foods/

And sugar in fruit has a entirely different function and utilization in the body than (processed sugar or white sugar) that modern health instills in your mind. No one has ever died or developed diseases of fruit, only when fruit was chemically-laded, genetically modified or mixed with other foods. in fact many people have cured incurable diseases with fruit-only diets, even diabetes. Yet Isn't fruit full of sugar? Yeah but clearly there is a lack of understanding of nature and human anatomy and biology. Nature is not designed to consume artificial chemicals, yet you can eat all the fruit you want and nothing bad will ever happen, why? because Nature is bio-compatible with Nature.

The longest lived and healthiest people I know and discovered hermits and yogis mostly live of wild fruit, nuts, seeds, berries and herbs are often far older and look far younger than your oldest people in the western book of records. Why you never hear about them? Cause if people found out about this, your entire corrupt western educational, healthcare and medical and pharmaceutical systems will eventually cease to be and go bankrupt. This is why they control every mainstream science and information you receive. An intelligent fully activated human is dangerous to a system who relies on slaves, you are still living in chains, only difference is they swapped the chains for the coin so you think you are free.

You've been brainwashed by the system, eat your meat and soon enough you'll be in heaven realizing fuck I didn't listen to that guy. There are many people who went carnivore and seen some results because they cut out the complexity of their diet and gave something closer to a simple diet that allowed their body to function better than consuming 150 different foods, flavours and chemicals a day which it was never designed nor evolved for, at least with meat they have some evolutionary history, yet many of them revert back to vegan fruit-based or re-introduce fruits and vegetables because they realize they are getting worse than before because meat wasn't originally designed for us. If you want something simple, eat some fruit, and leave all the other foods out, I can bet you will feel worlds better than meat, after the detox-phase passes. You will feel more alive than ever before, but its not an easy road especially if you been eating poorly all your life, you have to go through your darkness and purge all those toxins and trauma out of your system. its easy to eat meat, its like people who get high to feel good, no one wants to do the hard work and undo all the damage done. Its easy to numb and suppress ourselves with dense foods, but we will be limited greatly from our full potential, especially if we eat mostly meat and animal products and modern fake foods at the grocery store.

Unlike these petty comments, I know exactly what I am talking about. I have spent the last 15 years exploring everything i possibly can as to why most humans on earth are zombies. I have 100 books and thousands of hours of research and self-experimentation to back up everything I say. I had laid it all out a while ago and year after year the truth continues to prevail, why? because its the undeniable truth and the evidence speaks for itself.

God created everything perfect as it is, nature was the direct example of gods crystalized thought materialized and manifest, he produced an abundance of fruit and living foods for man to eat, and man lived in perfect health and harmony with the creator.

At one point man steered away from nature, possibly due to cataclysmic events, was forced out of the forest, ate the wrong foods, had to cook them to be able to digest them, destroyed and manipulated the natural systems, then diseases emerged and longevity and pristine health dissolved into the ether.

Maybe you can ask yourself these questions. Why is fruit the only food you don't need to cook to trick your taste buds to enjoy it by salting and flavoring and processing for it to taste good and appealing to your senses?

How come when they lock babies in a room 10/10 times they play with the animals and eat the fruit? Why don't they ever eat the animal? Maybe because babies are still pure and have yet to be conditioned on what to eat, and yet they instinctively know whats most natural and appealing to them. Even if they put vegetables in the room, they will still prefer the ripe and colorful fruit.

Why is fruit at ever dinner table and lights up peoples eyes when they see some fresh fruit on the table or being offered to them on a hot summers day? Why is fruit the only food to purify and cleanse the body while nourishing it at the same time?

Why did God say on Genesis 1:29 Behold, I will provide every seed-bearing plant and tree that will produce (fruit) and that will be yours for "food". Even in your religious texts, all point to fruit, especially in relation to the garden of eden.

I could go all day because I am an expert here, best be very educated before you start spreading misinformation with this mainstream out-dated false-science. All of these things have been busted long ago and covered over and over again.

Edited December 28, 2024 by M A J I

[Sugarcoat]

14 hours ago, Schizophonia said:

Everyone without exception will end up with problems if they eat too much of certain fibers, there are no beans or potatoes in nature.

That’s a pretty bold claim. I don’t know what you mean by “too much” because it’s not like someone even a vegan is eating only beans and potatoes they usually have a variety of food and some can eat like that without problems.

14 hours ago, Schizophonia said:

I trusted my senses, every time i trusted my senses i no longer had problems; And contrary to what one might imagine the senses are not pro junk food : Refined, poor quality, non-nutritious products will in fact be disappointing and if you contemplate enough, with enough delicacy, you will realize that it is limiting beliefs that trigger junk food compulsions, much more than pleasure. If you look at happy people, not particularly neurotic, they always choose refined, balanced food, rather than more "dirty" food.

 

That’s good you found something that worked for you. I’d say I agree here